User talk:Frabby

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Warrior House(s)

Why did you move Warrior Houses to Warrior House? Shouldn't the article title be plural, since it discusses all of them? --Scaletail 19:13, 8 December 2007 (CST)

I guess that was my first impression, too (admittedly I did not consciously think about it). However, when mentioned in other articles you can expect single Warrior Houses to be adressed and the link would then be used in singular form, i.e. [ [Warrior House]] [ [Imarra]]. I noticed that when updating my Kaifeng article.
Btw I considered making Warrior Houses a Category but thought it pointless for only 8 entries. In the future the individual Houses may have individual entries, but for now I felt there just is not enough material to warrant this. If and when that happens, a singular title for the main article will be even more important. I am not against moving the article to plural form but then a redirect from the singular would be neccessary imho. Frabby 19:20, 8 December 2007 (CST)
No matter which way you do it, you'll have a redirect. It was just my impression that the plural was more accurate. Any help you could contribute to the "Warrior Houses" section I created at Capellan Confederation Armed Forces would also be appreciated. --Scaletail 19:39, 8 December 2007 (CST)

Thanks for cleaning up the various Warrior House Re-directs! Alkemita 09:40, 12 March 2009 (PDT)

DropShip

Wanted to tell you how I think you've /really/improved the article. Exellent job! --Revanche (talk|contribs) 10:39, 9 December 2007 (CST)

Thanks for the flowers. However, to be honest I think the article (and others) still require a lot of work on their references. I often fail to provide references myself because sometimes I do remember certain bits and pieces of information but cannot recall where they are from, and most of the time do not have the novels or sourcebooks anymore. So unfortunately, somebody else will have to do that part of the work... Frabby 17:09, 18 December 2007 (CST)
Agree. It'll happen in time. (What would we do with our lives if this encyclopedia were comple?) --Revanche (talk|contribs) 01:18, 19 December 2007 (CST)

MechWarrior I

Great job on the MW I page, Frabby! I really liked how detailed you made it, especially given all of the links to the other elements. Great job and it definitely brought some old memories to the surface for me. :) Thanks! Bdevoe 15:55, 29 January 2008 (CST)

Planets and their coordinates

Thanks for the help on the planets. It's a bit of work and you're doing a great job adding in the extra data! Bdevoe 20:13, 26 October 2007 (CDT)

Glad it's appreciated! But I have a number of points: Some of the source material is ambigous Canon, how do we treat that? (For example, data from roleplaying scenarios like the stuff I have on Suk II) Also, the X/Y coordinates of systems are obviously wrong. Are these based on the 3031 Atlas of the Inner Sphere (which I have here, in German)? If so I could start to correct the coordinates. Frabby 05:09, 27 October 2007 (CDT)
I've noted to Nicjansma that the coordinates were incorrect. The entries were autogenerated and obviously there was an error when it posted the entries. I believe the info came from the Inner Sphere Cartography Service maps (which are correct except for two planets) and that data was based on the 1987/88 House Books. I think the plan is that he'll correct it using some script when he has time to deal with it since it's every planet that's wrong. To your other point, I would tend to think that if the information was published by FASA/WizKids/FanPro it's canon, even if it's from a scenario pack (like the Black Widows Company book). I guess it's up to you as to whether you're willing to go through all of the planets and fix the coordinates - it seems a Herculean task and would probably be easier to wait for Nic to do it automagically. :) Bdevoe 12:10, 27 October 2007 (CDT)

Hunan

I'm glad that you found the wrong co-ordinates for Gotterdammerung. I was wondering if you could take a look in your atlas of the Inner Sphere for Hunan. It's placed on the map here to the northeast of New Avalon, but it's listed as being part of the Capellan confederation and as having been part of the Terran Hegemony. I think this must be wrong, but I have no way of checking it. If it's possible, could you take a look?

Follow up: The co-ordinates are listed as: (X: 333.04 Y: 333.04)

Thanks, --Workerbee 09:41, 30 May 2008 (CDT)

It is located in the triangle formed by New Aragon, St. Andre and Foochow, fairly exactly "north" of Zaurak and Kaifeng. The Atlas gives the coordinates as X: 73,04 Y: 96,76
Btw it is a known problem that the planet's X/Y coordinates are wrong. When the entries were auto-generated, the X-coordinate were erroneously put into both the X and Y slot. Nic is aware of this and it will hopefully be corrected in a future update. (See Category talk:Planets# Major Problem with Coords). Frabby 13:10, 30 May 2008 (CDT)

Thanks again. --Workerbee 15:24, 30 May 2008 (CDT)

Wouldn't that be (73.04, -96.76?), as Hunan is "south" of Terra? Since you've become the planetary coordinate guru, would you be able to check and make sure that the master file has as that data correct? I've already corrected Menkent, Blue Diamond, Gotterdammerung, and Hunan. Specifically, could you check out Sakhalin, Scituate, Cartago, and Chamdo? Thanks! --Scaletail 17:42, 1 June 2008 (CDT)

Yes, you are absolutely right: Hunan is at Y -96.76, sorry! Regarding the others:

  • There are in fact two systems by the name of Sakhalin: One is a CapCon/Sarna Supremacy world at X: 62.33 Y: -142.92, the other a Lyran world at X: -24.25 Y: 153.09. The one on this wiki is the CapCon world, Sakhalin (LC) is missing as of yet. I had already noted it on the article some time ago (CC/SS world is spelled Sachalin in German material, but not in the original English sources).
  • Scituate has X: 88.67 Y: -221.94 in my Atlas. The wiki apparently used a positive Y coord, as it is erroneously shown at approximately the same altitude as Mannedorf (which is Y: 228.98).
  • Cartago placement seems to be correct (at X: 141.09 Y: -10.17)
  • Chamdo placement also seems to be correct (at X: 10.43 Y: -153.61); however, in the immediate vicinity Yunnah seems to be slightly misplaced. The correct coordinates for Yunnah are X: 27.67 Y: -124.13. It should be halfway between Corey and Second Try but here it is erroneously shown on the same altitude as Tsinghai and Chamdo, at Y: -153.61.

Checking the big file? I am honored, but it is a daunting task. It will take time. (Add the fact that some names were actually translated into German, i.e. Second Try is named Zweitversuch (lit.: Second Try) in German. That one could be guessed, but it literally took me a year to figure that Rand is meant to be The Edge...

Oh, and then there is that issue with "missing planets". It grew to quite a collection on the CBT forum, and there are other cases. This wiki, for example, has Ferris (Outworld Alliance) but there seems to be another Ferris in the Oberon Confederation which as of yet is not mentioned here. Frabby 18:17, 1 June 2008 (CDT)

The file does have Sakhalin (LC) at the correct coordinates. It has Scituate at 88.67,221.94 so that is incorrect. Yunnah is a tad off at 27.64,-154.13. Both have been corrected. It is daunting, I agree... but something does need to be done about the planets that are not represented, especially the planets of the Marian Hegemony and Circinus Federation. I also feel like Clan planets should be added, as well as those in the Deep Periphery, but that's a whole separate issue. --Scaletail 18:46, 1 June 2008 (CDT)

Shrapnel

A bit late, but good work on the article. I was surprised to see an early product with such an extensive article. --Revanche (talk|contribs) 10:35, 4 July 2008 (CDT)

Again, thanks - it is nice to see that my work is appreciated. I intend to eventually create pages for all the BT novels I have and provide a plot synopsis, timeframe, list of characters, list of major events for each. The intention is to give a full (yet reasonably brief) content rundown for each product on this wikia. But that is a huge undertaking, and currently queued behind Canonicity debate/policy (something I hope will be hammered out between Scaletail and myself), and stellar cartography. Frabby 01:25, 5 July 2008 (CDT)

Charakter

Gotta ask you: is the mis-spelling an affection of your's or just somehow a common mistake you make? I've seen you spell it both ways here, but now came across the k-spelling on CBT, as well. Just curious.

Also, I was waiting on your input on the Canon talk page, before I move forward on a section-by-section discussion/development. --Revanche (talk|contribs) 23:15, 17 August 2008 (CDT)

I have to say common mistake. "Charakter" is German. Being a GM, I use (and write) the word so often that the German spelling sometimes creeps through even when I write in English. Frabby 03:11, 18 August 2008 (CDT)
Good to know. Your English is impeccable, if that is the only evidence of it being a second language creeping in. --Revanche (talk|contribs) 08:38, 18 August 2008 (CDT)

Cyclops

Good find, on the errata. Especially since it was an old thread. I went ahead and made a reference for the link you provided, to prevent and calls of doubt in the future. --Revanche (talk|contribs) 21:29, 25 August 2008 (CDT)

E-mail

I just sent you an e-mail thru the BTW system. Please review when you get the opportunity. Thanks.--Revanche (talk|contribs) 16:13, 30 August 2008 (CDT)

Hunter

Thanks for fixing all those links. I meant to get around to it, but you beat me! --Scaletail 13:15, 13 September 2008 (CDT)

Unsuited Content

Hi Frabby. Would you please take a look at Seraphin and Seraphin Mechwarrior? I think they're articles better suited for the Fanon Wiki. Thanks for the help. --Ebakunin 21:29, 30 November 2008 (PST)

Technically, this kind of fanon articles is allowed on Sarna.net, provided that it is marked as fanon/non-canon. This goes back to the origins of this wiki, which started out as a fansite. I will, however, add the appropriate Non-Canon flags to the articles. Thanks for spotting. Frabby 06:37, 1 December 2008 (PST)
Should we start encouraging members to move fanon to the Fanon Wiki? --Ebakunin 06:59, 1 December 2008 (PST)
Personally, yes. But the Policy to allow fanon stands, and I feel uncomfortable with changing this all by myself. Consider that this was originally a fan-site for Neveron, and only later evolved into a true BT Wikia. I also thought that providing a dedicated fanon wikia should channel fanon away from this wikia. Anyways, I suggest you try to drum up support from Scaletail and especially NicJansma. They are the ones to decide on this matter as far as I am concerned. Frabby 07:30, 1 December 2008 (PST)

List of minor mercenary units

Yeoman's work dude! Locis 06:49, 3 December 2008 (PST)

Lock the Main Page

Hi Frabby,

The Main Page was hit by vandalism again. Since it's the public face of the site, I really believe it should be locked to all but administrators. There's really no reason anyone else should edit it anyway. --Ebakunin 06:56, 8 January 2009 (PST)

Makes sense. I had anticipated it would be locked anyways, so I'm going to do it now. What worries me a bit is that these spambots actually created user accounts. Will bring this up with the site owner, Nic Jansma. Frabby 07:36, 8 January 2009 (PST)
I wasn't there when it happened, but I approve this request, as it is really important to not see our favorite site spammed with viagra offers. --FIVE-one 07:37, 8 January 2009 (PST)
Update: The front page is already protected (against edits by non-registered users I presume). If I have an admin button to lock it beyond that then I have not found it. Nic should be able to help. Frabby 07:41, 8 January 2009 (PST)
You'll need someone with "sysop" access. --Ebakunin 12:15, 8 January 2009 (PST)

WikiProject Military Commands

I created a new WikiProject to encompass all military commands. Since you've done a lot of work in the past with them, please come over and sign up so that we can improve the coverage of all units. --Scaletail 14:16, 14 February 2009 (PST)

I have deliberately avoided signing into any specific Projects, and stick to my own to-do list instead. Well, sort of... Of course that does not mean I don't approve! It's just that I feel there is no point in me pinning my name to any particular projects. Frabby 14:50, 16 February 2009 (PST)

Thanks for the Help!

Hi Frabby, thanks for helping me with my problem. I'm very new to wikipedia use. I'm uncertain on how to use the other command such as move. I suspected that i won't been able re-name article i had created for security purposes. Thanks again for helping me and opening my eyes to the move function. -- Wrangler 14:06, 24 March 2009 (PDT)

Category Creation

Hello Frabby, I'm uncertain whom would be person to speak with regarding this. I've added few vehicles to the Sarna.net which aren't new in some respects. I've added the Ibex RV civilian vehicle from the Handbook: House Marik. This is a civilian vehicle, is it possible to add a Civilian Vehicles category? There are other civilian vehicles listed in the handbooks as well as Vehicle Annex.

Also could category of Naval Vessel Support Vehicles be added? It is a geniune battletech vehicle listing. I've added two support vehicle which happen to fall under sub-directory of Naval Support Support Vessel. Thank you for your time! -- Wrangler 16:37, 24 March 2009 (PDT)

To the best of my knowledge, categories are auto-created when articles (at least two) are sorted into a given category. You can then go to the category page and edit in some explanatory text if you want. I think this is how I created the Category:Alien species. If you run into problems, let me know.
As for Naval Vessels, there are so few designs that I would put all canonical sea-going ships into one category; suggest you name it Blue Water Naval Vehicles (but really, if you can find a better name then use that instead!). Frabby 13:34, 25 March 2009 (PDT)
Wet naval vessels already have a couple of categories reserved for them already, based upon the chassis, as is consistent with other combat vehicles. Check out the Combat Vehicle Portal for them. --Scaletail 16:55, 25 March 2009 (PDT)
Support Vehicles offical classification of Battletech. Their own class. Naval Support Vehicle is sub-class. My only thing since their not used for regular play, then they won't be listed as general combat vehicles. Hense why I'm hesitant to giving them classification "combat vehicle". Naval listing are only for the 100 tons and below stuff, not the massive support vehicles that can get into the 100k range. I'll list Argo and the Luftenberg as combatvehicles if you want me too but i think its wrong category for them. Can we least have the Civilian Vehicle Category thou? == Wrangler 17:22, 26 March 2009 (PDT)
I started a discussion at Category talk:Support Vehicles --Scaletail 17:50, 26 March 2009 (PDT)

BattleCorps

I saw your post of the BC forums. Just so you're aware, I did start and wrote a couple of articles: Destiny's Call, Tears of Blood, & Isolation's Weight. --Scaletail 17:09, 25 March 2009 (PDT)

Clan Nova Cat Characters category request

Hi Frabby, is possible for the creation for category for Clan Nova Cat characters? There has been number of exclusive character profiles created for that clan, but there is no category listed yet. Can it be created? I am little fuzzy on what process is to have category created or to whom i need speak to. Thank you! -- Wrangler 07:47, 9 May 2009 (PDT)

Unholy Union

Good job, Frabby, with that article on the BC story. Well-developed article, provides the facts with out removing the impetus for reading the story oneself. I'm really glad to see this type of article making its way here. --Revanche (talk|contribs) 07:22, 31 May 2009 (PDT)