Requiem
04/19/22 08:43 PM
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Let us consider one world …
Twycross - https://www.sarna.net/wiki/Twycross
Surface water 40%
Population over one billion
Planetary Info – “a weather-wild desert planet that orbits a large and hot sun, where cataclysmic events and powerful wind-storms are common, and its people are used to this. Due to these storms and events the population placed their cities and towns underground or made surface structures squat and flat. Twycross has a massive and continuous storm known as the Diabolis, which spawns never ending destructive weather.”
Question – as there is no information as to organic matter from dead plants and animals – hydrocarbons – are we to assume that there is no oil or natural gas or even coal upon this world (no information provided)?
And if this is so what type of engines are predominantly used upon this world as the importation of any liquid / gas fuel will require a vast fleet of ships in order to maintain enough fuel for either their vehicles or electrical power when you consider that the population is over one billion people.
Then let us apply this to every world within the Battletech Universe …
How are we to know which worlds have access to hydrocarbons in order to manufacture fuel or is there a synthetic fuel that is used upon every world and that can easily manufacture?
If so which company is this in each House and how do we know which worlds have this – or are we to assume every known world has them to enable the running of all vehicles?
Also Holy Terra – by the year 3000 you would assume that every fossil fuel source has long been used up – so were is the fuel coming from (for vehicles and electricity) or have they long since switched to electricity for all vehicles?
Get thee to Coventry … Now is the winter of our discontent, made glorious by this daughter of Tharkad … Our army shall march through. Well to New Avalon tonight.
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Requiem
04/20/22 09:15 AM
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Utilizing the search engine – Hydrocarbons – the following planets are …
Dabih
Markab
Wheel and
Heat Sink
Utilizing the search engine – Fuel – the following planets are …
Alya - to procure the planet for plastics and fuel.
Arc Royal - Attack Town: Your primary objective is to destroy the three fuel tanks at coordinates D01, D14, and D27. - Defend Town: Your primary objective is to defend the two fuel tanks centered at coordinates I99 and I58.
Biham – space fuel refinery.
Carver V - blowing up a fuel depot.
Chandler - refueling at a fuel depot
Colleen - and igniting several fuel lines transporting natural gas.
Genoa - because of a fuel depot explosion.
Halloran V - overseeing the fuel depot.
Hyalite - and quickly seized the primary food, fuel, and water sources.
Jacson - as secondary explosions from fuel and munitions stored there.
Lee - successfully raid AFFS fuel depot.
Memmington - the vessel inadvertently ignited underground fuel lines from the nearby MacKenzie refinery
Menkib - With an enemy tank company now threatening their ammo and fuel depots.
New Rhodes III - a fuel storage facility within Messi, the planetary capital.
Proserpina - to destroy an enemy repair and fuel facility.
Ryde - manufactured on-world, products which range from specialized pharmaceutical and fuels to industrial-grade explosions (please note this should be explosives otherwise with explosions is this part of a tourist attraction?)
Sian - a freak fuel explosion at the Forbidden City.
Thule - several supply depots and a fuel storage facility near the dropport.
Tsukude - the fossil fuels and natural gas that are abundant in the crust.
Utilizing the search engine – Internal Combustion Engine – the following planets are …
Al Na'ir
Alphard
Andurien
Apollo
Arc-Royal
Ares
Belladonna
Betelgeuse
Dunianshire
Epsilon Eridani
Gallery
Gienah
Indicass
Ingersoll
Irian
Kalidasa
Keystone
Layover
Luthien
Marik
Menke
Nanking
New Earth
New Samarkand
Oliver
Outreach
Pandora
Pinard
Proserpina
Ruchbh
Salem
Scarborough
Sevon
Shiro III
Sian
Skye
St Ives
Sterope
Terra
Is this the complete list of worlds with fuel?
Get thee to Coventry … Now is the winter of our discontent, made glorious by this daughter of Tharkad … Our army shall march through. Well to New Avalon tonight.
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Cray
04/20/22 11:27 AM
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Is this the complete list of worlds with fuel?
No, that list is missing several thousand BattleTech planets. Like I said in the last thread, fuel production was addressed in ATOW under the USILR code discussion. And A Time of War says every planet has fuel, differing in how much effort is required to make the fuel.
Mike Miller, Materials Engineer
Disclaimer: Anything stated in this post is unofficial and non-canon unless directly quoted from a published book. Random internet musings of a BattleTech writer are not canon.
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Cray
04/20/22 11:31 AM
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Question – as there is no information as to organic matter from dead plants and animals – hydrocarbons – are we to assume that there is no oil or natural gas or even coal upon this world (no information provided)?
No, that assumption is contradicted in canon, per a reference you were already given. It's also contradicted by basic biology - the planet wouldn't have a human-habitable biosphere if it was lacking hydrogen and carbon.
Further, that assumption is also an example of the logical fallacy known as an argument from ignorance. Assuming that missing information proves something is a fallacy.
Finally, this thread is locked because you're attempting to resume a locked discussion.
Mike Miller, Materials Engineer
Disclaimer: Anything stated in this post is unofficial and non-canon unless directly quoted from a published book. Random internet musings of a BattleTech writer are not canon.
Edited by Cray (04/20/22 11:35 AM)
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