Karagin
01/13/05 01:23 PM
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This is so wrong it’s not funny. Another case of stupidity in action by those who can’t take a joke and wear their emotions and feelings on their sleeves...these folks must work for the Ministery of Love.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6818054/?GT1=6065
Karagin
Given time and plenty of paper, a philosopher can prove anything.
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Nightward
01/14/05 03:12 AM
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This is nothing.
Are you on RPG.Net? If you're not, join up and run a search for "Vigorously Alive". The results should be...
illuminating 
Yea, verily. Let it be known far and wide that Nightward loathes MW: DA. Indeed, it is with the BURNING ANIMUS OF A THOUSAND SUNS that he doth rage against it with.
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Greyslayer
01/14/05 04:23 AM
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The joke wasn't the problem. It may have started the whole thing but they were arrested for causing problems after the joke. Just a bit of 'creative' media was usedin this case.
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Cray
01/21/05 07:31 AM
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The other side of the story: the two arrested were activists for legal reform.
http://www.mlive.com/news/jacitpat/index.ssf?/base/news-1/1105981553183660.xml
They accomplished their mission handily.
Mike Miller, Materials Engineer
Disclaimer: Anything stated in this post is unofficial and non-canon unless directly quoted from a published book. Random internet musings of a BattleTech writer are not canon.
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Karagin
01/24/05 12:22 AM
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Which is as it should be. No one should be able to toss folks in jail for simply telling jokes. And this proves that once more the courts and folks who run them are to high on their own power trips.
Karagin
Given time and plenty of paper, a philosopher can prove anything.
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Greyslayer
01/24/05 04:02 AM
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This was the other side of the story. What it lacked was a distinct amount of detail. The other story told it to a higher degree of detail and seemed to show that the jokers were in fact causing a public nuisance.
*shrugs* Take from it what you will.
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Karagin
01/24/05 02:48 PM
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A pubilc nuisance in who's opinion? The lawyer who ran and cried to the court police? Or to the folks standing in line laughing at their joke?
Seems it's clear enough as to WHO over reacted and took what should have been ignored and turned it into something else and made him or her self look like an idoit by doing so and gave the two who were arrested a platform to let all hear what they have to say and point out what is known by most already.
If they are going to arrest two men who tell a joke about a lawyer, then when are they going to go after everyone else who laughed at the joke that was told? Or how about their going after the folks who draw polictical cartoons, after all those are more insulting then a simple joke and seen by far more people.
If they are going clamp down on these two then they should all who have picked on lawyers other wise they are doing nothing but making martyers and looking like fools for even doing anything. Again if the lawyer couldn't understand or take the joke then maybe he or she should find a new line of work that won't have them picked on in such away. Oh wait..there isn't a job or profession that someone doesn't joke about. Damn. Maybe the lawyer in question here needs to grow up or stop wearing their emotions and feelings on their sleeves.
Karagin
Given time and plenty of paper, a philosopher can prove anything.
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Greyslayer
01/26/05 07:00 AM
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Karagin, it seems your time away hasn't taught you to read the article you yourself posted.
They were not 'arrested' (apart from the joke type start the article only says they were charged, a subtle difference lost on many) for telling one joke but for telling a joke and then abusive activities. It doesn't say they were arrested (or charged as might be the case) for just the single joke or whether the jokes themselves were the reason for the arrest.
Very reactionary and with little true evidence in this case.
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Nightward
01/26/05 08:53 PM
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Every so often, I find myself wondering how the Great Sarna Flamewars ever happened.
Each time, something like this comes up.
Bottom line? The law was written by people. People, by and large, are arsehats.
Cops are people. Laweyers are people. Juges are people.
Ipso facto, Lawyers, Judges, and Police are all arsehats, same as you and I.
Yea, verily. Let it be known far and wide that Nightward loathes MW: DA. Indeed, it is with the BURNING ANIMUS OF A THOUSAND SUNS that he doth rage against it with.
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Karagin
01/27/05 09:33 PM
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They were arrested, they were detained for over four hours. The story made the local news which had more on it. The report stated that after telling the joke, they were confronted by two officers from the court and told that they were being arrested for disrupting the peace. So yes they were held for telling a joke that upset one lawyer.
And for the record I did read the article. Sorry to pop the bubble you were inflating.
Karagin
Given time and plenty of paper, a philosopher can prove anything.
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Karagin
01/27/05 09:37 PM
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True but some folks think they are the law and if it's not to their take on it then all are wrong.
Point here is two men told a joke, it upset one person, that person complained and the two were arrested or detain take your pick on the wording, and the end result is a lawyer made a fool himself and two people have their day in the sun and the 15 mintues of fame to preach about how they don't like the current state of affairs.
Bottomline each side got what they wanted.
Karagin
Given time and plenty of paper, a philosopher can prove anything.
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Greyslayer
01/27/05 09:41 PM
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Quote:
And for the record I did read the article. Sorry to pop the bubble you were inflating.
Reading with your eyes closed doesn't count 
There is information in that article which clashes with what you heard (strange you never mentioned that news brief earlier?). The article says there is something more, even though like the supposed news brief they were both taking the sides of the abusers.
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Karagin
01/27/05 09:52 PM
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The article stated that the two had been at courrt before heckling...nothing about that being against the law and they left when asked to.
The tv spot on the news had it has a "look how silly your local government is being" report.
What abusers? They told a joke, they didn't attack the lawyer and beat him up they simplely told a joke. If the lawyer didn't like it he could have ignored it or moved away from them or tried to counter the joke with one of his own. But no he ran and cried wolf and got the two arrested for simply telling a jole. So sorry but to me and a lot of others this is clearly a case of folks who know they have power abusing it. So instead of the rational responce to this, we know have another case in a court that is already filled with cases. IF others act as the lawyer did, and yes folks do, we will see more filbourous law suites and tying up of court and thus nothing really get's done.
And it's NOT a supposed news brief, it was on the local NBC station WOOD TV 8 here in Western Michigan. So if the TV station and the author of the article are all siding with the VICTIMS aka the two who told the joke, then hey maybe it's the right side here.
Karagin
Given time and plenty of paper, a philosopher can prove anything.
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Nightward
01/28/05 03:01 AM
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Seriously, guys.
Relax. It's news from America, known far and wide as the Land of the Frivolous Lawsuit.
Yea, verily. Let it be known far and wide that Nightward loathes MW: DA. Indeed, it is with the BURNING ANIMUS OF A THOUSAND SUNS that he doth rage against it with.
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Karagin
01/28/05 09:00 PM
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Works for me.
Karagin
Given time and plenty of paper, a philosopher can prove anything.
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