mechpilot19
05/28/09 10:46 AM
79.68.214.112
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How the hell can a Quad Panzer have four Large Pulse Lasers? To fit that kind of firepower I had to use a fafnir with only six tons of armour and something like 40 heatsinks. From what I can find out, a Quad Panzer is about 65 tons all in. Can anyone shed any light on this?
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Prince_of_Darkness
05/28/09 11:03 AM
205.202.120.216
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How the hell can a Quad Panzer have four Large Pulse Lasers? To fit that kind of firepower I had to use a fafnir with only six tons of armour and something like 40 heatsinks. From what I can find out, a Quad Panzer is about 65 tons all in. Can anyone shed any light on this?
Mechwarrior 4 never followed the rules for 'mech designing at it's basics. The Quad Panzer is possible, but it would probably weigh in at around 100 tons and function like the Di Morgan.
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Cray
05/28/09 02:15 PM
147.160.136.10
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How the hell can a Quad Panzer have four Large Pulse Lasers? To fit that kind of firepower I had to use a fafnir with only six tons of armour and something like 40 heatsinks. From what I can find out, a Quad Panzer is about 65 tons all in. Can anyone shed any light on this?
You could almost manage it on a 75-ton Clan 'Mech. However, I think Prince of Darkness hit the nail on the head: it's a video game mech with poor relation to actual boardgame construction rules.
Mike Miller, Materials Engineer
Disclaimer: Anything stated in this post is unofficial and non-canon unless directly quoted from a published book. Random internet musings of a BattleTech writer are not canon.
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mechpilot19
05/28/09 04:17 PM
79.68.182.147
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Figures. Thanx for the input.
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Zandel_Corrin
05/28/09 07:59 PM
123.2.140.247
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I seem to remember rules for that somewhere.... it can be done..... hard to do and dies to quick but can be done....
only 48 tons for weaps and DHS.... 10 less if it uses a fusion engine.... easy to fit on a 65t tank frame.... still kind of squishy when you hit it back tho.
You have to remember that vehicles are different to mechs.... less involved
Galaxy Commander
Zandel Corrin
Night Dragon Clan
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Cray
05/28/09 09:37 PM
173.168.112.124
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Actually, the Quad Panzer works out okay. With 19 DHS, an XL, and 4 Clan LPLs and a quad chassis, it's tight but feasible and only has a minor heat issue.
I wouldn't build it on a quad chassis personally because of the limited firing arcs and cramped internal space, but it's not awful.
BattleMech Technical Readout
Type/Model: Untitled 'Mech
Tech: Clan / 3067
Config: Quad BattleMech
Rules: Level 2, Standard design
Mass: 65 tons
Chassis: Standard
Power Plant: 260 XL Fusion
Walking Speed: 43.2 km/h
Maximum Speed: 64.8 km/h
Jump Jets: None
Jump Capacity: 0 meters
Armor Type: Standard
Armament:
4 Large Pulse Lasers
Manufacturer: (Unknown)
Location: (Unknown)
Communications System: (Unknown)
Targeting & Tracking System: (Unknown)
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Type/Model: Untitled 'Mech
Mass: 65 tons
Equipment: Crits Mass
Int. Struct.: 114 pts Standard 0 6.50
Engine: 260 XL Fusion 10 7.00
Walking MP: 4
Running MP: 6
Jumping MP: 0
Heat Sinks: 19 Double [38] 18 9.00
(Heat Sink Loc: 1 LFL, 1 RFL, 2 LT, 2 RT, 1 CT, 1 LRL, 1 RRL)
Gyro: 4 3.00
Cockpit, Life Supt., Sensors: 5 3.00
Leg Act: Hip + UpLeg + LowLeg + Foot 16 .00
Armor Factor: 200 pts Standard 0 12.50
Internal Armor
Structure Value
Head: 3 9
Center Torso: 21 26
Center Torso (Rear): 9
L/R Side Torso: 15 20/20
L/R Side Torso (Rear): 6/6
L/R Front Leg: 15 26/26
L/R Rear Leg: 15 26/26
Weapons and Equipment Loc Heat Ammo Crits Mass
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2 Large Pulse Lasers RT 20 4 12.00
2 Large Pulse Lasers LT 20 4 12.00
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TOTALS: 40 61 65.00
Crits & Tons Left: 5 .00
Calculated Factors:
Total Cost: 11,504,901 C-Bills
Battle Value 2: 2,053 (old BV = 1,819)
Cost per BV2: 5,603.95
Weapon Value: 3,693 / 3,693 (Ratio = 1.80 / 1.80)
Damage Factors: SRDmg = 39; MRDmg = 35; LRDmg = 24
BattleForce2: MP: 4, Armor/Structure: 5/4
Damage PB/M/L: 6/4/4, Overheat: 0
Class: MH; Point Value: 21
Mike Miller, Materials Engineer
Disclaimer: Anything stated in this post is unofficial and non-canon unless directly quoted from a published book. Random internet musings of a BattleTech writer are not canon.
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Prince_of_Darkness
05/29/09 01:35 AM
205.202.120.216
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It was a vehicle, Cray. You just basically made the Mechwarrior 2 Rifleman IIC 
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Cray
05/29/09 08:56 AM
147.160.136.10
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It was a vehicle, Cray. You just basically made the Mechwarrior 2 Rifleman IIC
OHHHH. So did anyone guess I didn't play MW4? 
65-ton vehicle...yeah, that's a wee bit more difficult.
Mike Miller, Materials Engineer
Disclaimer: Anything stated in this post is unofficial and non-canon unless directly quoted from a published book. Random internet musings of a BattleTech writer are not canon.
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