Design Challenge: Recreational Units

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AmaroqStarwind
12/31/22 11:08 AM
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The goal of this design challenge is simple: design a unit, to the best of your ability, that is tailored to recreational activities.

For the purposes of this challenge, Solaris VII (too easy) and "Honorable combat among consenting clansmen" (too vague) are discouraged. Hunting does count as a recreational activity, however.

What I will be allowing:
- Custom equipment (keep it reasonable)
- Design quirks (balancing encouraged, but not required)
- Oddball unit tonnages (as in not multiples of 5)
- Fractional accounting
- Patchwork armor (some parts will take a worse beating than others)
- Mixed-tech
- Any era, rules level and technology level

I also strongly encourage fluff.
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Edited by AmaroqStarwind (12/31/22 01:04 PM)
ghostrider
12/31/22 12:02 PM
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You mean having a quad LB-20X bird hunting mech is legit?
AmaroqStarwind
12/31/22 12:10 PM
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I mean, that's a bit overkill, but... I guess some really freaking big birds might exist somewhere in the galaxy.


Edited by AmaroqStarwind (12/31/22 12:26 PM)
KatFennec
12/31/22 01:58 PM
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If it's recreational, you don't need real birds to shoot at, just something to launch targets
AmaroqStarwind
12/31/22 04:34 PM
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Maybe they're big-game hunting. Really big game.
Karagin
12/31/22 05:10 PM
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Hey, I know a planet, and on this planet, well, there are these colossal carnary-like birds...about the size of cows...
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AmaroqStarwind
12/31/22 05:33 PM
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I'm going to try to make a unit or two... As soon as I can figure out SSW (a real pain to use on a 4K laptop). Can SSW do protomechs?
ghostrider
12/31/22 06:04 PM
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I was talking about all those pesky pigeons that keep messing up my washed car. Now if some cow sized birds come along, then I should be ready for them as well.

Wow. People don't use pencil and paper to make units anymore?
Guess the 2000's are more advance then 3025 in the game.
ghostrider
12/31/22 06:18 PM
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Not sure, but I think one of those pigeons has a TAG unit with it. I keep seeing a dot, or getting a blinding flash before hearing a loud bang.

Maybe that isn't a pigeon, but a Jade Falcon.
Karagin
12/31/22 09:44 PM
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I use pen and paper and HMPro and Mordel's niffty program on his page.
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AmaroqStarwind
12/31/22 10:29 PM
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Collapsible Command Module... 16 tons.
At 16 tons, what can it offer to prospective civilian buyers looking to enjoy themselves?
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AmaroqStarwind
12/31/22 11:12 PM
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Okay, here we go... this is actually my first ever posted design.

Code:
 Explorer 

Mass: 30 tons
Tech Base: Mixed
Chassis Config: Quad
Rules Level: Experimental Tech
Era: All Eras (non-canon)
Tech Rating/Era Availability: E/X-X-F-E
Production Year: 3100's
Dry Cost: 2,694,418 C-Bills
Total Cost: 2,694,418 C-Bills
Battle Value: 212

Construction Options: Fractional Accounting

Chassis: Unknown Composite Structure
Power Plant: Unknown 90 Compact Fusion Engine
Walking Speed: 32.4 km/h (43.2 km/h)
Maximum Speed: 54.0 km/h (64.8 km/h)
Jump Jets: Unknown
Jump Capacity: 90 meters / 90 meters
Armor: Unknown Commercial
Armament:
None
Manufacturer: Unknown
Primary Factory: Unknown
Communications System: Unknown
Targeting and Tracking System: Unknown

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Equipment Type Rating Mass
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Internal Structure: Composite Structure 55 points 1.500
Engine: Compact Fusion Engine 90 4.500
Walking MP: 3 (4)
Running MP: 5 (6)
Jumping MP: 3 / 3 UMU + Jump Booster
Jump Jet Locations: 1 CT, 1 LT, 1 RT 1.50
Heat Sinks: (IS) Compact Heat Sink 10 0.000
Heat Sink Locations: 2 LT, 2 RT
Gyro: Compact 1.500
Cockpit: Standard 3.000
Actuators: L: H+UL+LL+F R: H+UL+LL+F
TSM Locations: 3 LT, 3 RT
Armor: Commercial (BAR: 5) AV - 55 2.293

Internal Armor
Structure Factor
Head 3 9
Center Torso 10 7
Center Torso (rear) 1
L/R Torso 7 6
L/R Torso (rear) 1
L/R Front Leg 7 6
L/R Rear Leg 7 6

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Equipment Location Heat Critical Mass
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Lift Hoist RT 0 3 3.000
Lift Hoist LT 0 3 3.000
Cargo, Insulated (5.0 tons) CT 0 5 5.000
Jump Booster * - 8 4.500
Free Critical Slots: 10

* The Jump Booster occupies 2 slots in each leg.

BattleForce Statistics
MV S (+0) M (+2) L (+4) E (+6) Wt. Ov Armor: 1 Points: 2
3u 0 0 0 0 1 0 Structure: 1
Special Abilities: TSM, UMU, ENE, SRCH, ES, SEAL, SOA


This is a 30-ton camper, made to explore the vistas of untamed worlds. Great for camping! Expensive as heck though, so you're probably best-off renting it for a couple weeks.

It has a whole 5 tons of insulated cargo space, about enough to carry a small electric vehicle, or a bunch of provisions, or what-have-you.

I know it says "TSM", but Solaris Skunkwerks wouldn't let me put Industrial TSMs on what is technically a BattleMech, and TSM-X isn't a thing in SSW yet. Just pretend they're Industrial TSMs. It has them to double the capacity of its dual lift hoists.

Design Quirks!
- Rugged
- Easy-to-Pilot
- Easy-to-Maintain
- Searchlight
- Rumble Seat
- Improved Life Support

I've also attached the SSW file for it. Attachment (62 downloads)
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Edited by AmaroqStarwind (01/01/23 01:41 PM)
AmaroqStarwind
01/01/23 01:25 AM
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Here's a new variant, the Explorer II. It addresses some of the original's shortcomings; mainly missing features (collapsible command module, and an ER small laser for self-defense), and also a questionable adherence to the construction rules. It is about 25 tons heavier though, bringing the total to 55 tons. It has a lower theoretical lifting capacity than the original, but in practice it's greater, as the former's TSMs would have never kicked in.

Code:
Explorer II (aka "Shackleton")

Mass: 55 tons
Tech Base: Mixed
Chassis Config: Quad
Rules Level: Experimental Tech
Era: All Eras (non-canon)
Tech Rating/Era Availability: X/X-X-X-X
Production Year: 3100's
Dry Cost: 4,174,538 C-Bills
Total Cost: 4,174,538 C-Bills
Battle Value: 409

Construction Options: Fractional Accounting

Chassis: Unknown Composite Structure
Power Plant: Unknown 165 Fusion Engine
Walking Speed: 32.4 km/h
Maximum Speed: 54.0 km/h
Jump Jets: Unknown (UMU + Mechanical Jump Booster)
Jump Capacity: 90 meters / 90 meters
Armor: Unknown Standard Armor
Armament:
1 (CL) ER Small Laser
2 Lift Hoists
1 Cargo, Insulated (5.0 tons)
1 Collapsible Command Module (CCM)
Manufacturer: Unknown
Primary Factory: Unknown
Communications System: Unknown
Targeting and Tracking System: Unknown

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Equipment Type Rating Mass
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Internal Structure: Composite Structure 99 points 2.750
Engine: Fusion Engine 165 6.000
Walking MP: 3
Running MP: 5
Jumping MP: 3 / 3 UMU + Jump Booster
Jump Jet Locations: 2 CT, 1 RT 1.50
Heat Sinks: (IS) Compact Heat Sink 10 0.000
Heat Sink Locations:
Gyro: Standard 2.000
Cockpit: Standard 3.000
Actuators: L: H+UL+LL+F R: H+UL+LL+F
Armor: Standard Armor AV - 60 3.750

Internal Armor
Structure Factor
Head 3 9
Center Torso 18 11
Center Torso (rear) 2
L/R Torso 13 6
L/R Torso (rear) 1
L/R Front Leg 13 6
L/R Rear Leg 13 6

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Equipment Location Heat Critical Mass
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2 Lift Hoists RT 0 6 6.000
Cargo, Insulated (5.0 tons) RT 0 5 5.000
Collapsible Command Module (CCM) LT 0 12 16.000
(CL) ER Small Laser HD 2 1 0.500
Jump Booster * - 8 8.500
Free Critical Slots: 0

* The Jump Booster occupies 2 slots in each leg.

BattleForce Statistics
MV S (+0) M (+2) L (+4) E (+6) Wt. Ov Armor: 2 Points: 4
3u 1 1 0 0 2 0 Structure: 2
Special Abilities: UMU, ENE, SRCH, ES, SEAL, SOA


Developed as part of a trade agreement between Clan Sea Fox and the Magistracy of Canopus, this thing is kitted out! Expect lots of awesome camping trips with your friends. If you can afford it, anyway.

Same design quirks as before.
- Rugged (2)
- Easy to Pilot
- Easy to Maintain
- Improved Life Support
- Searchlight
- Rumble Seat

Note: I actually goofed a bit while making this one. Accidentally published with a Fission engine (don't do that) instead of a Fusion engine, so I had to delete, fix, and republish.
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AmaroqStarwind
01/01/23 03:56 PM
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Realizing that the base model was way too expensive, I cooked this up:
Code:
Explorer Junior 

Mass: 25 tons
Tech Base: Inner Sphere
Chassis Config: Quad IndustrialMech
Rules Level: Experimental Tech
Era: All Eras (non-canon)
Tech Rating/Era Availability: E/X-X-E-D
Production Year: 3100
Dry Cost: 1,083,219 C-Bills
Total Cost: 1,083,219 C-Bills
Battle Value: 191

Chassis: Unknown Industrial
Power Plant: Unknown 75 Fuel Cell Engine
Walking Speed: 32.4 km/h
Maximum Speed: 54.0 km/h
Jump Jets: None
Jump Capacity: 0 meters
Armor: Unknown Commercial
Armament:
None
Manufacturer: Unknown
Primary Factory: Unknown
Communications System: Unknown
Targeting and Tracking System: Unknown

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Equipment Type Rating Mass
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Internal Structure: Industrial 47 points 5.00
Engine: Fuel-Cell Engine 75 2.50
Walking MP: 3
Running MP: 5
Jumping MP: 0
Heat Sinks: Single Heat Sink 1 0.00
Gyro: Standard 1.00
Cockpit: Industrial 3.00
Actuators: L: H+UL+LL+F R: H+UL+LL+F
TSM Locations: 1 CT, 4 LT, 7 RT
Armor: Commercial (BAR: 5) AV - 72 3.00

Internal Armor
Structure Factor
Head 3 9
Center Torso 8 9
Center Torso (rear) 2
L/R Torso 6 7
L/R Torso (rear) 3
L/R Front Leg 6 8
L/R Rear Leg 6 8

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Equipment Location Heat Critical Mass
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Lift Hoist RT 0 3 3.00
Communications Equipment (1.0 tons) (1.0 tons) LT 0 1 1.00
Cargo, Insulated (1.5 tons) LT 0 2 1.50
Quad Mech Turret RT - 1 0.00
Environmental Sealing * - 8 0.00
Tracks * - 4 2.50
Free Critical Slots: 4

* The Environmental Sealing occupies 1 slot in every location.
* Tracks occupy 1 slot in every leg location.

BattleForce Statistics
MV S (+0) M (+2) L (+4) E (+6) Wt. Ov Armor: 1 Points: 2
3 0 0 0 0 1 0 Structure: 2
Special Abilities: I-TSM, ENE, SRCH, EE, SEAL, SOA


IndustrialMech chassis, Fuel Cell engine, reduced lifting capacity, reduced cargo space, and only a single lift hoist. It also can no longer jump or swim, but now it has tracks to offset the loss in mobility (optionally, the tracks can be removed for an additional 2.5 tons of cargo space), and the lift hoist is mounted on a turret to compensate for the fact there's now only one of them! There is also a ton of communications equipment to partly make up for the lack of a collapsible command module. This design is aimed at entry-level customers, but it is still over a million C-Bills.

Same design quirks as before.

I look forward to seeing other people's designs for recreational vehicles. Probably way better than what I have here.
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ghostrider
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Need a unit that has plenty of flamers, and be used as a barbeque pit. Think a vehicle for this, as it should also have a mobile pool to make a full beach party no matter where you are.
AmaroqStarwind
01/01/23 11:44 PM
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Uh... That might be a bit overkill?
ghostrider
01/02/23 11:51 AM
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Nah. Overkill would be using military grade weapons for the concert afterwards. Laser light show with fire works and even the ppcs adding to the effects.

OH! Use power armor as robotic dancers, fully automated. Maybe even having them serve drinks at the bar..

Set up a skeet shooting area so normal people can fire off some LB-X style cannons.
Now that would be a recreational vehicle.
AmaroqStarwind
01/02/23 12:58 PM
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Less talking, more designing
AmaroqStarwind
01/09/23 10:54 PM
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Everest
Recreational Climbing 'Mech
Code:
Mass: 35 tons
Tech Base: Mixed
Chassis Config: Biped IndustrialMech
Rules Level: Era Specific
Era: All Eras (non-canon)
Tech Rating/Era Availability: E/X-X-E-D
Production Year: 3100
Dry Cost: 1,902,282 C-Bills
Total Cost: 1,902,282 C-Bills
Battle Value: 290

Chassis: Unknown Industrial
Power Plant: Unknown 105 Fusion Engine
Walking Speed: 32.4 km/h
Maximum Speed: 54.0 km/h
Jump Jets: Unknown
Jump Capacity: 90 meters
Armor: Unknown Commercial
Armament:
1 (IS) Small Laser
2 Lift Hoists
1 Searchlight
1 Cargo, Insulated (2.0 tons)
1 Recon Camera
Manufacturer: Unknown
Primary Factory: Unknown
Communications System: Unknown
Targeting and Tracking System: Unknown

================================================================================
Equipment Type Rating Mass
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Internal Structure: Industrial 58 points 7.00
Engine: Fusion Engine 105 3.50
Walking MP: 3
Running MP: 5
Jumping MP: 3 Standard
Jump Jet Locations: 1 CT, 1 LT, 1 RT 1.50
Heat Sinks: (IS) Single Heat Sink 10 0.00
Heat Sink Locations: 1 RT, 1 LA, 2 RA, 1 LL, 1 RL
Gyro: Standard 2.00
Cockpit: Industrial 3.00
Actuators: L: SH+UA+LA+H R: SH+UA+LA+H
TSM Locations: 3 LT, 4 RT, 3 LA, 2 RA
Armor: Commercial (BAR: 5) AV - 108 4.50

Internal Armor
Structure Factor
Head 3 9
Center Torso 11 17
Center Torso (rear) 4
L/R Torso 8 12
L/R Torso (rear) 4
L/R Arm 6 10
L/R Leg 8 13

================================================================================
Equipment Location Heat Critical Mass
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Lift Hoist RT 0 3 3.00
Searchlight RT 0 1 0.50
Recon Camera RT 0 1 0.50
Lift Hoist LT 0 3 3.00
Cargo, Insulated (2.0 tons) LT 0 2 2.00
(T) (IS) Small Laser LT 1 1 0.50
Mech Shoulder Turret LT - 1 0.50
Environmental Sealing * - 8 0.00
Free Critical Slots: 6

* The Environmental Sealing occupies 1 slot in every location.

BattleForce Statistics
MV S (+0) M (+2) L (+4) E (+6) Wt. Ov Armor: 2 Points: 3
3j 1 0 0 0 1 0 Structure: 3
Special Abilities: I-TSM, SRCH, ENE, SRCH, SEAL, SOA


Design Quirks:
- Extended Torso Twist
- Improved Life Support
- Compact 'Mech
- Overhead Arms
- Easy-to-Pilot
- Nimble Jumper
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aurora43
03/26/23 01:44 PM
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Hey AmaroqStarwind. Have never considered building my own Mech, but this looks like fun. Good you inserted "to the best of your ability" caveat. I'll be needing that as a fall-back.

Looking at the Wasp WSP-105 LAM as a starting point. A sport flyer RecMech as it were. Using Tech Readout 3025 (c/w 1986) and BattleTech Compendium (c/w 1990) as reference docs. They seem complimentary and compatible for this build. Have already begun scratching it out 20th century pencil and paper method.

Question? Where to download software to publish the finished product as you have done? I downloaded your attachment, but unable to access it as a template. Thanks. a43

[EDIT> o.k., found it at 'Preferred Design Format'//Jansma (sticky threaded)]


Edited by aurora43 (03/26/23 03:43 PM)
miguel
04/06/23 04:54 AM
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That's the key to success.
AmaroqStarwind
11/17/23 07:44 PM
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Quote:
Hey AmaroqStarwind. Have never considered building my own Mech, but this looks like fun. Good you inserted "to the best of your ability" caveat. I'll be needing that as a fall-back.

Looking at the Wasp WSP-105 LAM as a starting point. A sport flyer RecMech as it were. Using Tech Readout 3025 (c/w 1986) and BattleTech Compendium (c/w 1990) as reference docs. They seem complimentary and compatible for this build. Have already begun scratching it out 20th century pencil and paper method.

Question? Where to download software to publish the finished product as you have done? I downloaded your attachment, but unable to access it as a template. Thanks. a43

[EDIT> o.k., found it at 'Preferred Design Format'//Jansma (sticky threaded)]


Ah, just a mix of MegaMekLab and Solaris Skunkwerks.

I look forward to seeing your creation!
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11/26/23 06:36 PM
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Name: Icarus Dream Flyer - Powered Glider
Type: IS Light Support Vehicle
Tech Rating: Standard

Tonnage: 145kg
Structure Rating: B
Vehicle Type: Fixed Wing
Engine Type: Solar - Tech Rating C

Speed: 5/8
Fuel: N/A - Solar Powered
Armour: 0kg
Crew: 1

Equipment:
- Pillion Seat - 25kg
- STOL - Requires 300 meters (10 hexes) of runway

Design Quirks: Easy to Pilot (2), Rugged (1), Difficult to Maintain (-1)

Cost: 679 C-Bills
BV: 1

Lore

'Have you ever stepped out, on a clear sunlit day, stared up at the sky and thought... wondered... dreamed... What it would be like to fly.'

'WELL NOW YOU CAN!'

'Presenting the build it yourself Icarus Dream Flyer, a one man personal flyer for all your wants or needs. Capable of being assembled by yours truely, yes you for a low low price of 679 C-Bills, the Icarus dream Flyer is what every kid wants, to sore above the land!'

A design, made by committee, marketed to children and victim of the hilariously obvious outcome, the Icarus 'Dream Flyer' is a product mired in controversy. Made first during the Star League as a product marketed to to the middle class families of the Great Houses, the Icarus was very much a victim of a period where design by comittie extended to all walks of life.

Comprised of a steel frame, basic motor prop electrically driven engine strapped via some rather sturdy system to a simple seat which could strap the user in, and a large nano solar cell canvas, capable of absorbing sunlight and acting as the gliders wings, the Icarus is admittingly a wonder of engineering. Weighing under 200kg, yet is able to propel a pilot to speeds of 86kph, all with a simple solar powered electrical engine at a affordable price of 679 C-Bills. The Icarus was a hobbyist dream.

Yet its affordability saw corporate meddling switch its original targeted audience from aeronautic enthusiasts to younger children, where smelling a fat pay check adverts portrayed happy kids flying the Icarus over sun lit fields and high in the sky. A aggressive inner sphere wide advertisement campaign, huge mass production of the rather cheap design and a clever use of distribution allowed the Icarus to go from theoretical market to store shelves sphere wide in little over two years, and by the time the Icarus hit store shelves the tragedy struck.

Child after child crashed the Icarus. Lack of training, heavy winds on alien worlds... and more than one large carnivorous flying creature attack resulted in a rapidly growing body count, that was compounded by a floundering recall operation which failed due to the initiation of the Star League Civil War. The result was a mechanically sound product, but a flawed inception and sale as a children's toy, compounded by the inability to withdraw the untold millions that had already been distributed for the holiday season the sphere wide. Adding in the grounding of all com traffic left complaints unable to be answered or news of the danger of the craft being overshadowed by the sudden explosion of hostility.

This meant that on some worlds the Icarus was still being sold well into the first succession war, and beyond, with deaths still mounting as stores who bought the craft wanting to recoup the losses from the purchase. Still while in many circumstances this would end in utter tragedy, Icarus Dream Flyers however developed a avid sphere wide community by the start of the first succession war. Their low cost, rugged design and rather simple to control layout led to the development of 'Flyer clubs' on some worlds. These clubs would use their Icarus flyers to sore up high and provide training for a new range of aeronautic enthusiasts... provided they all landed the thing by the time it got dark... or could find a 300 meter flat area for a runway.

Notes

A bit of a joke design but one I could see people using ^^
AmaroqStarwind
03/21/24 09:07 PM
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Yeah, uh… maybe giving it to kids wasn't such a great idea ^.^
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