novakitty
03/21/02 10:47 AM
192.195.234.26
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I was looking at the engine chart recently and a question arose: "Is there any way to use the 385-395 ranker engines?" I have not given this extensive effort myself, but I wondered if anyone had used them, and I would like to see how.
meow
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KamikazeJohnson
03/21/02 11:02 AM
209.202.47.12
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hmmm....385 = 35 * 11, so mathematically, a 35-tonner can rate for it. However, with a 385 XL, and Endo Steel, that leaves only 4 tons for weapons, equipment, and armor.
390 = 65 * 6 I believe Bob made a couple using this engine...right Bob?
395 = 5 * 79...this one stumps me, unless there's some way to work in suspension factor on a hover or wheeled vehicle, or a VTOL. Anyone?
Peace is that glorious moment in history when everyone stands around reloading.
--Thomas Jefferson
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KamikazeJohnson
03/21/02 11:12 AM
209.202.47.12
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Here's one with a 385  I had to use L3 to make it even remotely worthwhile...
PPS-385 Pipsquack
Mass: 35 tons
Chassis: Unknown
Power Plant: Unknown 385 XXL
Cruising Speed: 118.25
Maximum Speed: 182.75
Jump Jets: none
Jump Capacity: none
Armor: Unknown
Armament:
2 ER Medium Lasers
1 ER Small Laser
1 ER Large Laser
Manufacturer: Unknown
Primary Factory: Unknown
Communications System: Unknown
Targeting and Tracking System: Unknown
PPS-385 Pipsquack
Technology Base: - Inner Sphere - Level 3
Equipment Mass
Internal Structure: - Composite 1.75
Engine: 385 XXL 14.5
Walking MP: 11
Running MP: 17
Jumping MP: 0
Heat Sinks: 11(22) - Double 1
Gyro: - Extra-Light 2
Cockpit: - Small 2
Armor Factor: 119 - Heavy Ferro-Fibrous 6
Internal Armor
Structure Value
Head 3 9
Center Torso 11 17
Center Torso(rear) 5
R/L Torso 8 12
R/L Torso(rear) 4
R/L Arm 6 12
R/L Leg 8 16
Weapons and Ammo Location Critical Tonnage
ER Medium Laser LA 1 1
ER Large Laser LT 2 5
ER Medium Laser RA 1 1
TSM RA 6 0
ER Small Laser H 1 0.5
Cost: 28,357,448
BV: 1102
Peace is that glorious moment in history when everyone stands around reloading.
--Thomas Jefferson
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Cray
03/21/02 01:29 PM
204.245.128.3
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390s have turned up on (at least) the Clan Linebacker, a 65-ton, 6/9/0 mech.
Mike Miller, Materials Engineer
Disclaimer: Anything stated in this post is unofficial and non-canon unless directly quoted from a published book. Random internet musings of a BattleTech writer are not canon.
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Bob_Richter
03/21/02 08:03 PM
4.35.174.250
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>>>390 = 65 * 6 I believe Bob made a couple using this engine...right Bob? <<<
Quite. Two of my earliest designs, the Agressor and the Spector. FASA's Exterminator and Linebacker also use it.
>>>395 = 5 * 79...this one stumps me, unless there's some way to work in suspension factor on a hover or
wheeled vehicle, or a VTOL. Anyone? <<<
Actually, tanks don't have to have even tonnage. I could make a 79 ton tank with 5/8 movement to satisfy this requirement. Can't think how to use it in a 'Mech tho.
-Bob (The Magnificent) Richter
Assertions made in this post are the humble opinion of Bob.
They are not necessarily statements of fact or decrees from God Himself, unless explicitly and seriously stated to be so.
:)
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novakitty
03/21/02 08:20 PM
192.195.234.26
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I guess I missed the 390=6*65, as I said I did not spend a lot of time thinking about it. But are the others (385 and 395) only really useful in unusually tonned vehicles?
meow
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Greyslayer
03/21/02 08:31 PM
137.172.211.9
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The Wraith and Black Lanner both use the 385 XL engine in their chassis. Being 55 tons that makes them 7/11.
Greyslayer
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Bob_Richter
03/21/02 08:31 PM
4.35.174.250
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385s make 35 tonners go 11.
385s make 55 tonners go 7. (used on the Wraith.)
395 can apparently ONLY be used on vehicles.
Speaking of which:
BattleTech Vehicle Technical Readout
VALIDATED
Type/Model: 395 Special
Tech: Inner Sphere / 3025
Config: Tracked Vehicle
Rules: Level 3, Standard design
Mass: 79 tons
Power Plant: 395 Hermes XL Fusion
Cruise Speed: 54.0 km/h
Maximum Speed: 86.4 km/h
Armor Type: Ferro-Fibrous
Armament:
3 Medium Lasers
1 Small Laser
Manufacturer: (Unknown)
Location: (Unknown)
Communications System: (Unknown)
Targeting & Tracking System: (Unknown)
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Type/Model: 395 Special
Mass: 79 tons
Equipment: Items Mass
Int. Struct.: 40 pts Standard 0 8.00
Engine: 395 XL Fusion 2 24.50
Shielding & Transmission Equipment: 0 12.50
Cruise MP: 5
Flank MP: 8
Heat Sinks: 10 Single 0 .00
Cockpit & Controls: 0 4.00
Crew: 6 Members 0 .00
Turret Equipment: 0 .50
Armor Factor: 466 pts Ferro-Fibrous 2 26.00
Internal Armor
Structure Value
Front: 8 140
Left / Right Sides: 8 93/93
Rear: 8 62
Turret: 8 78
Weapons and Equipment Loc Heat Ammo Items Mass
--------------------------------------------------------
1 Medium Laser Turret 3 1 1.00
1 Medium Laser Turret 3 1 1.00
1 Medium Laser Turret 3 1 1.00
1 Small Laser Turret 1 1 .50
--------------------------------------------------------
TOTALS: 10 8 79.00
Items & Tons Left: 12 .00
Calculated Factors:
Total Cost: 16,278,409 C-Bills
Battle Value: 707
Cost per BV: 23,024.62
Weapon Value: 857 / 857 (Ratio = 1.21 / 1.21)
Damage Factors: SRDmg = 12; MRDmg = 2; LRDmg = 0
BattleForce2: MP: 5T, Armor/Structure: 0 / 17
Damage PB/M/L: 2/2/-, Overheat: 0
Class: GH; Point Value: 7
They're also massively inefficient.
-Bob (The Magnificent) Richter
Assertions made in this post are the humble opinion of Bob.
They are not necessarily statements of fact or decrees from God Himself, unless explicitly and seriously stated to be so.
:)
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