Talk:Andery Kerensky

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Andery v. Andrey[edit]

It is somewhat strange - the correct russian spelling of the name would be Андрей Керенский - Andrey Kerensky. Why is he called "Andery"? --Dunkelfalke 12:30, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

Mistakes happen in editing probably, I'll scuffle through my own books to find if it's just a few instances or it really does mean Andery. The naming annoys even me. Great job on implementing that gem back-story though. :D --Dracoix 15:44, 27 July 2009 (UTC)
Refereed as "Andery" in Clan Wolf handbook (p. 12 "The Man" excerpt footer). Though this is the original instance I've seen it and his name mentioned for the first time. Anyone else come across the same naming? --Dracoix 16:22, 27 July 2009 (UTC)
It is also spelled that way in Fall From Glory by Randall Bills. I would suggest asking that question on the Ask the Writers forum at --Scaletail 23:36, 27 July 2009 (UTC)
It's referenced in many of the books as Andery. IRL, it was probably a mistake by an early author that ended up being canonized and so we have to live with it. An in-universe explanation is that after more than six hundred years, nobody should be surprised that names, cultures, and traditions even on Earth would have changed a bit. 13:13, 27 April 2018 (EDT)

Zellbrigen origin[edit]

The Field Manual: Warden Clans places the origin of zellbrigen within Clan Coyote or am I missing something?-- 15:27, 9 August 2012 (PDT)

There is no source listed for the assertion that Nicholas mandated zellbrigen, so it's tough to do much with it. That said, FM:WC states that Clan Coyote created "a style that would eventually become zellbrigen", which may not necessarily be the invention of it. It's also possible that the Coyotes developed the style and Nicholas forced in on the other Clans. I don't have a definite answer. --Scaletail 18:27, 9 August 2012 (PDT)
Some of the Diamond Shark information clarifies this due to their feud. Basically, the Coyotes created zellbrigen as their own idea, and tried to hold other clans (which is to say, the Sea Foxes) to what was at the time their own internal practice. After Andery was killed, Nicholas Kerensky mandated the practice for all the Clans. So this was a post-Klondike innovation, which makes sense given that there was no way that the Pentagon worlds would have played by those rules. 13:11, 27 April 2018 (EDT)