Talk:Wolf's Dragoons

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Scenario References

The two notions about scenarios from the rulebooks refer to the German rulebooks which I have here. However, I noticed that the (German) CityTech rulebook states to take its contents from a number of original publications. Could somebody therefore please check wether the scenarios are included in the original (english) rulebooks? Either way, having been published by FanPro I suppose they can be considered canonical. Frabby 03:02, 8 August 2007 (CDT)

I have included information up until 3055 (most of it from the Mercenary's Handbook). The article needs serious work on later times, their clan merger and ultimate fate. I think I will leave that to somebody else. Frabby 16:26, 21 September 2007 (CDT)

I looked through and the edits you made are both reasonable and substantial. A lot of extra information and much of it very good. If there's any information about who commanded the unit in a later time period (say 3050 or 3055), you should consider adding another InfoBoxMercUnit to cover that period. Bdevoe 18:02, 21 September 2007 (CDT)

Thanks for the flowers! I *think* that Jaime Wolf commanded the Dragoons until that Elton guy tried to take over (Wolf Pack novel), and after their brief "civil war" Jaime's daughter Maeve Wolf took command. I sort of lost track (and interest) in the whole Clan-Wolf-in-Exile and the Jade Wolves mess. From other forums I take it Wolf's Dragoons were effectively destroyed during the Blake Jihad, when the Waco Rangers assaulted Outreach and Wayne Waco finally got to kill Jaime Wolf. This goes to illustrate the issue I have with the InfoBoxMercUnit: They can only be snapshots from a given time, but are woefully incapable of depicting the development of famous units such as WD, GDL or ELH over the course of the BT timeline. With their luck waxing and waning, you'd basically need a new Box after every assignment/major battle. Frabby 05:21, 22 September 2007 (CDT)

I would agree that to be truly accurate, you would need an InfoBox every time something happened. I'd point out, though, that most of the source books provide this information on every unit and for specific time frames (3025, 3050, 3055/6, 3067, etc). The way I view it, FASA/whomever has provided the information for various time periods and those time periods can be captured in the InfoBoxes. More detailed information (like CO changes, regiments forming/leaving/destroyed) should occur in the historical text section. I see most of the info as a basis for people who want to play those units in those time frames. At least that's what I think FASA thought when they first started providing that information. These snapshots allow players to see the waxing/waning of units over time and I think it's useful from that perspective. Bdevoe 17:02, 23 September 2007 (CDT)

Critter-Tech

My entry about the Dragoon parody in Critter-Tech was removed, stating "irrelevant to BattleTech". The same previously happened in the entry for Natasha Kerensky. I have a different opinion and do consider this relevant, of course, or I would not have put it into the articles in the first place. Critter-Tech was (is?) a licensed spoof of the BT franchise and hits the nail on the head fairly well in many aspects. And as a licensed product, it is also part of the franchise in general. Certainly on par with some other stuff here that is loosely connected to the BT universe at best. Before having my contributions deleted I would at least like to see a discussion about wether or not it belongs here! Btw I fully intend to create an article about Critter-Tech, just haven't come round to do it yet. Frabby 09:38, 26 November 2007 (CST)

I have mixed feelings about this subject. Clearly, this isn't a wiki on Critter-TEK, but CT is based on BT. I don't think it's wrong to include a brief write-up on it, but I think it needs to be limited to a line or two, with the information on the CT article, because anything more than "X was important enough to the BT universe to be spoofed in CT" is really too much. Scaletail 13:44, 26 November 2007 (CST)

I felt that the fitting CT parody nicely augments the in-universe description provided by the article. A unit ability called "the scriptwriter is on their side" really does give an impression of what the Dragoons are within the franchise. I concede, however, that my initial CT part could be trimmed a little bit. Frabby 15:33, 26 November 2007 (CST)

Since its licensed and official, I think CT should have its own article - and any relevant CT info (Nat. Kerensky and Wolf's Dragoon's, etc...) should be mentioned in that article, not in the respective Btech article.

Armor

The Dragoons "created" the badger and the bandit, are they counted among infantry (as in motorized infantry) or are they considered armor? cause the article says, wolf's dragoons do not use armor... I'm just a little confused...— The preceding unsigned comment was posted by RagTag (talk • contribs) .

That part is complete crap, and I may change it myself. WD uses armor. Lots of it, in fact. True, MOST of it they used with their 2nd-line support units rather than directly attached to the main 5 mech regiments, plus Zeta battalion and the Widows/Wolf Spiders. But yeah.. I'm changing this. ClanWolverine101

Okay, I was already wondering.... though from the sources I have, all exclusive dragoon vehicles carry infantry, so they could have been included under mot.inf. theoretically... RagTag 23:55, 17 March 2010 (UTC)

Well, those are just the "exclusive" vehicles. You still have a shitload of Artillery pieces (Fire support group) and other groups. Hell, in 3055, the Home Guard alone had at least a couple hundred vehicles. ClanWolverine101

Okay, Question answered, problem solved :D RagTag 13:24, 18 March 2010 (UTC)

WarShips

The Dragoons own(ed) WarShips, at least thats what it says in the Lola III article. Anybody knows how many and what kind of? RagTag 13:21, 22 October 2010 (UTC)

You find the information on the page. Neuling 18:19, 22 October 2010 (UTC)

Ranks

An anonymous editor has just added a section on ranks to the page using the Clan Wolf rank insignia images. Can someone with the books confirm if this is accurate or if it should be removed, please? BrokenMnemonic (talk) 01:25, 7 July 2014 (PDT)

Naval Command

In Field Manual: Mercenaries, Revised, it states that "the Dragoons Naval Command consists of twenty-two Jumpships, eighty-one dropships, and two defense-and-recharge stations." While I first took this to mean this was the entirety of the Dragoon naval transport capacity, it now strikes me that these are just the ships directly under the command of Naval Command. These would be the ships used to set up command circuits (e.g. Mackenzie Wolf's expedition to the periphery in Wolf Pack), to deliver reinforcements from the support commands, and in the case of dropships, used to patrol Outreach. These 22 Jumpships could even include their warships, as BattleTech and WD source material frequently refer to warships as Jumpships.

If true, this would mean that these numbers do not account for any of the Regimental or Independent transports. Which would would make the Dragoon fleet much, much bigger. Thoughts? On any point.

Cleanup

Simple enough - the existing link for the Dark Age citation is dead. I think the document is available here in the Downloads section. Would somebody care to update it? Madness Divine (talk) 21:50, 18 April 2022 (EDT)