User talk:Doneve/Archive1 August 2009-March 2010

Hey, welcome to BTW and thanks for your work so far. Please add references (see Help:References) to the Paul Marik article in order to add legitmacy to the article. Hope to see more from you. --Revanche ^{(talk|contribs)} 18:59, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

Use of copyrighted work

Welcome to BattleTechWiki. Thank you for signing up and for your desire to improve this wiki. Unfortunately, I had to remove the work you did because it is not permitted to copy work from other sources, including published BT books (see BattleTechWiki:Copyrights for more information). Please continue to edit. Since you appear to be new to wiki editing, I encourage you to use the sandbox to test out your edits and become familiar with wiki code. Once again, thanks and welcome! --Scaletail 00:36, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

Article work

Hello Doneve, I see you've been very busy lately. I also work add article and bio on characters. You need type the articles in your own words. We can get into trouble you copy word for word from the books. Also, you need to also look at other articles. There are template for certain type articles you are writing. Black Omen‎ for example you wrote is word from word from the book. When listing a command you need to use templates. For mercenary commands you use this template. Help:CreateMercenaryUnitArticle. Copying this template you fill the information for the command and write in YOUR OWN WORDs the article. If you have questions, please contact me or one of the other writers or editors. -- Wrangler 19:41, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

Warning

I appreciate the fact that you want to help. I welcome your help, but you must work within the established guidelines and policies. In order to edit this wiki, you must own the text you are contributing. By copying text directly from books, you are violating the BattleTechWiki copyright policy. Please read it and familiarize yourself with this policy. You cannot be permitted to plagiarize work. You have already been informed of this by myself and an editor, yet you persist in violating this policy. Consider this your warning. --Scaletail 16:41, 15 August 2009 (UTC)

Block from editing

Doneve, I know that you are trying to help. I appreciate that. Nonetheless, you have willfully ignored my warnings. You cannot copy information from anyplace, not books, not websites, nowhere. You must own the words you submit to this wiki. I have blocked you from editing for one day. Please do not force me to take this action again, because it will become progressively longer. --Scaletail 00:16, 19 August 2009 (UTC)

Question

Hey Doneve! I am S.gage. I enjoy writing content for Sarna.net, and I understand how difficult languages can be, because I spent some time studying other languages. If you want to talk in another language with me, I may be able to converse. I can read and write Español, Français, Deutsche and a couple others (very poorly). If I can help you, let me know.--S.gage 06:18, 4 September 2009 (UTC)

Hy ich hab deine nachricht gelesen was meine Artikel oder Änderungen betrifft ich wollt mich noch einmal bei allen entschuldigen, es war keine böse absicht........Und ich denke ich muss einfach mein Englisch verbesseren woran ich auch Arbeite...Ich werd mir einfach noch mal den ganzen FAQ und die anderen Tipps vornehmen und hoffe ich bin durch besseres Englisch eine bereicherung für euch

Doneve

Cool. Ich hab' Deutsch gelernt, aber mein gescriebenes Deutsch ist wahrscheinlich schrecklich, weil ich fast gar keines Deutsch für neun Jahre gescrieben hab'.

Wirklich gibt's kein Problem. Die andere Schriftleitern haben deine Beitragungen wirklich gern, aber die möchten, daß alle Schriftleitern Nachslagen geben. Wenn du wolltest, könntest du die Nachslagen am Boden der Seite oder in die <<Discusion>> Siete notieren. Auch preferieren die Schriftleitern Bücher und Videospielen: Auf Englisch, auf Deutsch, alle Quelle sind egal für BT WIKI.

Wenn du willst, fühlt dich frei, mir zu hier schreiben (auf English oder Deutsch - ich muß mein Deutsch üben).

Auch, wenn du willst, kannst du deine "Screen"-Name bei drei "tildes" ("~" - tut's mir Leid, ich weiß nicht, wie das auf Deutsch heißt) schreiben, wie so ~~ (sondern mit drei oder mehr). Hat viel Spaß! Tschuß!--S.gage

Hy dein deutsch ist so schrecklich wie mein englisch lol, wollte mich noch mal bedanken das du mir zurückgeschrieben hast ich hoff ich bin eine bereicherung für euch

Ja, sicher. Beide sind richtig. Mein Duetsch is nicht gut, und du bist eine grosse Bereicherung für uns. Bitte erinnerst du dich, die Quelle zu notieren, und schrieb du mir zurück, wenn du willst. Vielen Danken, und viel Glück!--S.gage 19:40, 24 September 2009 (UTC)

Vieleicht stell ich mich ein einbissen dumm an, aber wie poste ich meine änderungen. Wenn ich auf die recent changes gehe ist bei jedem user in klammern die änderung angezeigt (.....) , ich hoffe du hilfst mir weiter

Wenn du möchtest schreib du mir in englisch und ich schreib dir in deutsch zurück, ich denke da können wir beide unsere sprach kenntnisse auffrischen :)

Vieleicht schreibe ich auf die Beide. Ich bin nicht sicher, ob ich deine Frage verstehe. Wenn du deine Änderungen sehen möchtest, kannst du am Oben der Seite "my contributions" finden und klicken. Du kannst auch einfach an "recent changes" gehen. Erinnert du dich, die Seite zu "reload". Ich hoffe, daß meine Antwort hilft.

OK, I am not certain I fully understand the question, but I will answer as best I can. Are you asking how you can see your own recent changes? If so, go to the top of your user page, on the right hand side click on "my contributions". If you want to see your changes on the "recent changes" page, simply remember to refresh the page after making the change. I hope this helps.--S.gage 02:36, 25 September 2009 (UTC)

Hy ich geb dir einfach mal ein beispiel was ich meine,Aleksandr Kerensky‎; 12:27 . . (0 Bytes) . . 209.160.56.254 (Diskussion) (→Pentagon Worlds and Death: "effecting the Inner Sphere" changed to "affecting ...") ganz am ende der rescent changes.....was ich fett markiert habe... --[User:Doneve]--

Also, jetzt verstehe ich. Du willst deine Änderungen erklären. Ich habe gedacht, daß du schon "Summary" benutzten hast. Gleich unter dem Boden des "Textbox" (ich weiß nicht, was das auf Deutsch heisst) steht ein viel kleineres "Textbox" (gleich neben dem Wort "Summary:"), ober "Save Page", "Show preview" und "Show changes". Einfach kannst du hier ein bißchen schreiben, deine Änderungen zu erklären. Habe ich dir gehelfen?

OK, now I understand. You want to know how to explain your edits. Right under the textbox and next to "summary", you can write a small explanation of your edits. Was this helpful?--S.gage 02:52, 26 September 2009 (UTC)

)Vielen dank nochmal für deine anwort hab es jetzt kappiert

--User:Doneve 13:55, Sptember 2009

Hy S.gage can you give me a little report for my articels and changes in Bt.Wiki, what can I do to do makes better articles or somthing......please write me back in english Grettings --Doneve -- 29:09, September

Willkommen auf Sarna.net! Wie S.gage schon gesagt hat, auf Talk Pages ist es üblich, zu "unterschreiben", indem man seinen Text mit vier Tilden (~~~~) abschließt. Das System wandelt die vier Tilden dann automatisch in den Usernamen (wenn man eingeloggt ist, sonst die aktuelle IP) und einen Zeitstempel um. Und nochwas, für die Lesbarkeit macht es Sinn die jeweils nächste Antwort einzurücken, indem man einen Doppelpunkt voranstellt (:), bei der nächsten Antwort zwei (::) und so weiter.

Ich wußte nicht, daß Du auch Deutsch bist. Wenn Du irgendwelche Fragen hast, helfe ich gerne weiter!

Schön' Gruß, Frabby 08:08, 28 September 2009 (UTC)

SCHÖN' Gruß auch zurück Frabby. Hab mir überlegt, eine Einheitsaufstellung Wolf´s Dragoner,

vor und nach der Schlacht von Misery zu machen. Mit Namen der Gefallenen und weiteren Details.... etc.

Kannst du mir ein paar Ratschläge geben wie mein Layout und Gestaltung dafür aussehen könnte, und ob sowas ähnliches schon existiert?

Gruß,Doneve 14:20, 3 October 2009 (UTC)

Hy hab mal im Wolf´s Dragoner Sourcebook nachgeschaut, da sind ja die Verluste aufgezeichnet, mal schauen ob sich das überhaupt lohnt eine extra seite wie oben beschrieben zu kreieren....sag ma deine meinung dazu

Gruß,Doneve 21:09, 3 October 2009 (UTC)

Hy --Frabby I have a answer to my adds in last time or other stuff ...I hope this give me a little bit support, I am add in last time questions to the other admins but I become no response I hope my englisch ;) is better Greetings Doneve 00:35, 23 October 2009 (UTC)

Hy I adding in last time some stuff to the timeline and yearlist....I think the organisation structure of the timeline and yearlist sites can be updated...in right date times(i hope it is the right word) and give the site a structure!?!? What are you think or the other members....????

Greetings Doneve 20:33, 29 October 2009 (UTC)

Outdated Objective Raid info

Hello, while the manufacturing category is built on Objective Raids, things have progressed from is early 3050's time period and TRO printed since indicate Clans have refitted former IS factories under their control so re-adding IS 'Mechs is somewhat counter productive. Cyc 23:19, 27 September 2009 (UTC)

Hy, Thanks for your tip....how did you se me english is not so good, but I hope you give me some support

--Doneve-- 1:30, September

Actually, I'd say any and all canonical information should be added, just make sure to add enough info to tell what was produced when (and when production began, stopped, was upgraded or switched). There is no reason whatsoever why the manufacturing category should be limited to any one specific time era. Frabby 08:08, 28 September 2009 (UTC)

I think the Objective Raids info should be added, too. If you are concerned with misunderstandings, add a tag. Give a date - no one can dispute the production of Satalice or Irece before the Clan Invasion.

Also, my girlfriend and I have been a little sick for the last couple of days. I'm still a little sick. Sorry I have been absent.--S.gage

Reference Request

Hallo Doneve. Schade sich zu sorgen. Ich hoffe, dass diese Übersetzung ganz richtig herauskommt. Ich bitte für Sie. Ist mit der ganzen Information Ihr Stellen in den yearlists möglich, können Sie Verweisungen anziehen, wovon Sie sie bekamen? Mit so vielen können Leute wo Ihr bekommenes sie davon wissen wollen. Ich habe versucht, Verweisungen auf das Zeug zu stellen, das ich angeschlagen habe. Wenn Sie wie nicht wissen. Fragen Sie gerade oder schauen Sie darauf man gibt in die Lehre, der als Führer verwendet. Lassen Sie mich wissen, ob Sie müssen helfen! -- Wrangler 18:16, 16 October 2009 (UTC)

• Hy ich hab deine Nachricht bekomm, ich hab leider noch nich meine references, zu den yearlist's geaddet. I must say Sorry, I take this in the oder days.....I have all references for my adds......but not addet

I do not know whether I in German or Englsich wide ones should write.... I think sometimes you have yours written by a translator allows to translate or others like ......... Please Call me.....the references ar addet at this Wikis side I downloaded per link.....but if have not addet. My Englisch is poor I know.....I learn ;) Can I have a litte response on my adds from the community, I hope that makes me better to prepar my article or other thinks......Please give me feedback.......Thankx A Lot Doneve 23:46, 16 October 2009 (UTC)

Sorry Doneve, wasn't sure the translator was going help. Basicly all the birthdates and other listing in timeline need some kinda of reference. mainly in yearlist. Your putting entries were not able to identify. Thus my request for a reference, incase you may have made mistake we can fix. Were team! ;) -- Wrangler 13:17, 17 October 2009 (UTC)

Hi Doneve, i've noticed you've added alot of info to the timeline. You've also added the references, but your not linking the lines of information to where you got the information from. Is there way you can use the references templates to link your information from? Looking at existing references information would help. -- Wrangler 20:29, 2 November 2009 (UTC)

Hy S.gage I added the notes in next time I forget it every time....but one question...

in the most timeline and yearlist there no references or Information....I would to bring correction on that with references and foot notes on there and hope a little bit organization and structure....when you have ideas tell me...or any support Grettings Doneve 20:40, 2 November 2009 (UTC)

Hallo Doneve! Wie geht's dir? Ich bin ein bißchen beschäftigt mit Arbeit, aber ich bin gesunder.

Ich glaube, daß wrangler nur möchten, du mehr Referenz "Links" zu benutzen. (welche specifische Seite des Buch, des Artikel, oder anderer Quelle) Mit diese Information kann er jeder Faktum selbst lesen. Mit mehr Referenz ist BTW einfacher, wrangler und andere Leute zu benutzen.

(Nur) wenn du wolltest, "Links" zu schreiben, könntest du viele "<res>Referenz</res>" schreiben mit dem Faktum, und "<reserences />" am Boden der Seite (für Wörter in <>, nur mußt du die Buchstabe "s" mit "f" ändern; zum Beispiel, ref und ref/ würden gehen). Auch, es gibt sneller "Buttons", daß du snell drücken kannst. Diese "Buttons" stehen ober dem Text, "Insert a character" und "Insert a template", zur Rechten. Versüch du, wenn du willst. Ich habe diese "Buttons" gern. Diese "Buttons" sind einfach zu benutzen.

Ich hoffe, daß du mein Deutsch verstehst, und daß du zehr gut und gesund bist. Viel Glück und viel Spaß!--S.gage

Hy S.gage I know, but when Iam in flow :) i forget it mostly...

I want to updted the references in all yearlist's and bring some structure and organisation on it.

Greeting Doneve 10:38, 3 November 2009 (UTC)

I understand. If I am writing well, I don't want to break the flow either. Good luck!--S.gage 17:48, 3 November 2009 (UTC)

Hy S.gage thanks a lot for your support, I hope Wrangler

is not to angry.

Grettings Doneve 19:00, 3 November 2009 (UTC)

Hello Doneve, I apologize if sound like I'm angry. I am not. However, i very concerned at rate of entries your putting into the timeline and other articles. You are making alot entries, but with no references, there now any one can to know where you are getting them. Quanity over speed. Some of your entries only are vague, not explain what their about and they have reference link explain where you got them from. -- Wrangler 14:45, 8 November 2009 (UTC)

Hy Wrangler I know what you mean...When you look on my last entries and I make some changes I bring references with footnotes when needed...or takes (example) TRO :3039 p...

When you have some ideas by the references to make it easylier please tell me. Greetings Doneve 15:00, 8 November 2009 (UTC)

Hy S.gage I woud to take you a little report for my last changes, you see my last creates by manufacturing centers and other thinks. I hope the reference problem in the last time is repaired by me...Ok some changes by myself must fix...I'll do this.

Greetings Doneve 22:09, 14 November 2009 (UTC)

Field Manual: Terran Republic is NOT CANON

Hi Doneve. I would not recommend using that field manual. Its a FAN-Made one. It would be bad news for wiki if you start mixing up information from that manuel with our wikipedia stuff here. We try post ONLY canon only information. We have Fan-Made articles, but they are clearly labeled and kept seperate from the canon ones. I recommend not using it at all. You could make article that mentions the existence of the book itself. However, seriously suggest NOT USE the Field Manual: Terran Republic as source for anything on Wiki. -- Wrangler 12:39, 4 December 2009 (UTC)

Hy Wrangler thanx for the answer, I don't use it.I hope the reference problem by myself is corrected...I am in work.

GreetingsDoneve 12:43, 4 December 2009 (UTC)

Awards

Doneve, I took the liberty of installing an awards board on your main page. Please place it where it best fits your design. Happy New Year! --Revanche ^{(talk|contribs)} 05:18, 1 January 2010 (UTC)

I wish you to a HAPPY NEW YEAR...and THX for the award --Revanche

Doneve 14:22, 1 January 2010 (UTC)

Planetary Data

Doneve, good job enhancing those planetary articles, some of which haven't been touched since they were created by Nic in 2006. Two suggestions (if I may): one, put the term "(in 3075)" (or whatever year is correct) after the field Population, so that readers know when it had that many people on-planet. Two, list your references for the data at the bottom.
Again, thanks. --Revanche ^{(talk|contribs)} 14:42, 2 January 2010 (UTC)

Hy Revanche it is a pdf download from the Classic BattleTech site (Dark Age - Republic Worlds). Greetings Doneve 15:01, 2 January 2010 (UTC)

Hey, Doneve. Take a look at the change I made to Konstance (you can also see it directly here). If you cut & paste my changes into those two places, then each of the articles will all have the same reference source and look alike. Good luck!--Revanche ^{(talk|contribs)} 15:59, 2 January 2010 (UTC)

Objective Raids 3067

Please note that Objective Raids 3067 is not suitable as a reference, because it is not an official product. This fan-made book draws its information together from canonical products, yes, but you should try to find the true canonical sources for whatever information you provide - the sources from which OR3067 took its information. Frabby 14:29, 11 January 2010 (UTC)

Ok no problem. I add the true canonical sources. Sorry my failur.Doneve 14:53, 11 January 2010 (UTC)

Learned something

You taught me something: how to do references within headlines. This morning, I couldn't figure out how to get the section to appear right and I had to go to your planetary articles to see how you did it. Now I know. For that, I present you with the All Purpose award:

--Revanche ^{(talk|contribs)} 15:17, 21 January 2010 (UTC)

Thanks Revanche, what a pleasure :). You do a really good Admin job on the wike...allways forward

GreetingDoneve 15:28, 21 January 2010 (UTC)

Hetzer by a newbie

jap, ungefähr so deutsch wie ich nie sein wollte ; ) wir können nen deal machen, wenn du nich schon sowas hast: ich studier englisch, deshalb is meins recht gut, und du bist hier viel mehr zu hause als ich, da liesse sich sicher eine kooperation zum wohle des gesammten BT-wiki draus drehen, meinste nicht? jedenfalls, vielen dank schonmal für die hilfe! :D--RagTag 19:00, 27 January 2010 (UTC)

machen wir das, ne kleine trinity allianz, so ne art "technologieaustausch", du machst die konföderation, ich das konkordat, dann brauchen wir nurnoch ne schicke magestrix.....! --RagTag 19:15, 27 January 2010 (UTC)

das könnte nen ECHTES problem werden, ich als ComGuardist..... :D--RagTag 19:40, 27 January 2010 (UTC)

Lucas Beckett

Hey, Doneve: was Lucas Beckett's birthyear found in Field Manual: Periphery, on page 116? --Revanche ^{(talk|contribs)} 23:04, 27 January 2010 (UTC)

Hy Revanche, no i found it in Masters and Minions: The StarCorps Dossiers p 233 Lucas Beckett Profile. --Doneve 23:18, 27 January 2010 (UTC)

Way cool. I wrote that article. To find out its been updated is great. Can you add the citation to the article, please? --Revanche ^{(talk|contribs)} 00:15, 28 January 2010 (UTC)

Okidoki i fix it ;).Doneve 00:19, 28 January 2010 (UTC)

Excellent. A strong article updated. Good job. --Revanche ^{(talk|contribs)} 02:02, 28 January 2010 (UTC)

Page citations

Doneve, I realize you've used my copyedits of your articles to improve upon them (which is usually a good thing). However, I have been leading you wrong on the pages in a reference. There should be a period (.) after 'p' and 'pp'. I'm trying to get back in the habit of including that period in my own copyedits, but I thought I should inform you of that as well. Sorry for the mis-direction. --Revanche ^{(talk|contribs)} 14:35, 28 January 2010 (UTC)

No problem, i fix some thinks, when it's ok. Doneve 14:54, 28 January 2010 (UTC)

Fixing Planetary Data

Doneve, your work on fixing the Y-coordinates of so many planets truly is a Herculean task, and should be recognized. Since no appropriate award is available, I have given you a 2nd "All Purpose Award". I hope in future a better award is available to truly recognize your contribution.--S.gage 00:03, 5 February 2010 (UTC)

Thanks S.gage what a honour :) — The preceding unsigned comment was posted by Doneve (talk • contribs) 18:03, 4 February 2010.

Concur with S.gage. I took the liberty of 'fixing' your awards board to reflect just the 2nd award (which also represents all previous awards, i.e., 1st & 2nd). --Revanche ^{(talk|contribs)} 01:37, 5 February 2010 (UTC)

Teamspam IS Atlas

First off, thank you for putting up with correcting all the Y coords on systems! But be advised that the IS Atlas you are using as a reference is itself just a meta-source (much like Objective Raids: 3067), i.e. it is unsuitable as a reference. The people who made the IS Atlas based its data on coordinates published in the original House Books, and they made a lot of mistakes and transcription errors - at least in the older version of their database, on which Nic Jansma based this wiki's planetary database. Accordingly, (only) the House Books should be used as a reference for system coordinates.

This also means that canonical coordinates were never published for many systems, namely all those that were not on the first maps published in the House Books - all periphery worlds, and a few lost/forgotten/retconned worlds also. Almost no later source gives system coordinates. This in turn means the coordinates you're taking from the IS Atlas are not canonical. They are merely extrapolated (estimated) from canonical maps that were published, and they don't even tell which one (there are several maps of the Outworlds Alliance, for example, and there are quite significant differences in the placement of different worlds).

What I'm trying to say is please don't just copy data from elsewhere - check its veracity and canonicity for yourself. Don't use the IS Atlas as a reference. And be honest enough to note on many coordinates that they're just estimates based on canonical maps, as no proper coordinates were published for these systems so far. Frabby 14:43, 6 February 2010 (UTC)

Hy Frabby, ok i stop my y: coordinate project :(. I have not the original House Books only as pdf, and there are the coordinates not listed.Doneve 15:21, 6 February 2010 (UTC)

Frabby, don't you think that citing the IS Atlas is better than not citing anything at all? At least, with the citation, we know where the information comes from. I agree with you about veracity of IS Atlas, but I'd rather know the source than not.--Scaletail 17:28, 6 February 2010 (UTC)

I agree with you, it is better to use the ISA as no reference.Doneve 17:56, 6 February 2010 (UTC)

Hmm. Well if you do cite it as a stopgap reference, then it should be referenced as a BTW article because it really should get an article similar to what we did for OR:3067. Don't get me wrong, the IS Atlas is a good, important and fairly reliable source of information. And therefore notable and worth including on this wiki. Just keep in mind its nature as a meta-source. Frabby 01:00, 7 February 2010 (UTC)

Founder's Honorable Mention Award

Hi Doneve. Glad to have you aboard, and thanks for all your contributions including cleaning up the mess I made with the X/Y coordinates in the Planets. Thanks for the great contributions! Nicjansma 06:52, 8 February 2010 (UTC)

Thanks, Nic and Thanks for your great Wiki.Doneve 15:27, 8 February 2010 (UTC)

Picture uploads

Thanks for uploading all those unit logos. This is extremely helpful! But may I suggest that you please name the source in the "Comments" section of the upload page, as a reference. Frabby 23:12, 8 February 2010 (UTC)

UUPPPSSS i forgot it, the references are Masters and Minions and the Jihad Hot Spot Serie.Doneve 23:29, 8 February 2010 (UTC)

Planets|{ {PAGENAME} }

Heya, just a minor note - AFAIK there's no difference between [[Category:Planets]] and [[Category:Planets|{{PAGENAME}}]]. You use the {{PAGENAME}} with category only if page belongs to certain namespace - such as [[Help: or [[User: to avoid having all pages under letter H or U ;). Otherwise it's just a waste of server resources (as praser has more to do than it should have). The Colorful Project 20:09, 19 February 2010 (UTC)

To be honest, Doneve picked up the habit from me, Colorful. You are right it is unnecessary in the majority of cases, but server demand is negligible. It is also useful for character articles, where you'd want the names organized by last name, rather than by first. I don't expect Editors to put it in, but I see no reason to remove it when they do. --Revanche ^{(talk|contribs)} 22:23, 19 February 2010 (UTC)

oh, sure, I didn't remove anything :) Just pointing out the facts :) The Colorful Project 23:01, 19 February 2010 (UTC)

Deine Meinung

Schau dir mal bitte diese seite an Clan_Invasionund sag mir deine meinung dazu. Ich habe vor die komplette Claninvasion auf zuarbeiten und den anderen nutzern übersichlich darzustellen. Selbiges will ich auch für andere ereignisse tun bsp. 4. nachfolgekrieg usw. Danke schon mal im voraus. Neuling 22:15, 19 February 2010 (UTC)neuling

Hy, ich hab mir die seite schon angesehen (super arbeit) roll on ;), nur weiter so. Wie gesagt falls du bei irgend etwas hilfe braucht frag nur (be bold) .Doneve 22:19, 19 February 2010 (UTC)

Mir geht es nur darum, ob ich nicht in die falsche richtung arbeite und mir umsonst soviel mühe gebe. Ich habe schon auf die diskussionseite geschrieben das ich mich über jeden beitrag freue aber bis her hat noch niemand geanwortet....

ich werde auf jedenfall bei den einheitstabellen in klammern dahinter setzen ob sie zerstört wurden oder nicht. Was hälst du eigenlich von tabellen wo der plantet die einheiten und kurz das ergebnis drinne stehen hier ein beispiel

Planet	Angreifer	Verteidiger	Ausgang
Terra	Wob	Comstar	Comstar geschlagen, Wob siegreich
Wolcott	Nebelparder	DCMS	DCMS durch ryuken

Hy again, das ist ne super idee, und du arbeitest in gar keine falsche richtung, ansonsten hätte ich dich oder einer der Admins darauf hingewiesen. Schau aber vorher in unserer wike nach nicht das du irgendwelche doppeleinträge machst, wiegesagt super arbeit Be Bold.Doneve 22:37, 19 February 2010 (UTC)

So der anfang ist gemacht und in den kommenden tagen werde ich bestimmt es ganz schaffen :) danke für deinen zuspruch Neuling 23:43, 19 February 2010 (UTC)neuling

Clan Wolf ist fast fertig. Ist nur noch der Outcome zumachen. Und freust du dich schon auf den rest... Neuling 19:48, 20 February 2010 (UTC)

Top Job sag ich nur. Roll on Roll on ;).Doneve 19:59, 20 February 2010 (UTC)

Ich bin es mal wieder, ich bin fast fertig mit den kompletten Clans. Als abrundung gibt es noch tabellen mit clanstärken (toumanen) sowie überarbeitete tabellen von is einheiten wo dahinter steht ob sie zerstört wurden und durch wen bsp 33rd avalon hussars (D)- JF. Wast meinst du so ich noch mehr dazu packen oder reicht es dann. meine nachfolgenden projecte werden ungefähr genauso aussehen und ich werde dann mit operation bulldog weitermachen sowie der marik/liao offensive von 57.. bis denn Neuling 14:17, 21 February 2010 (UTC)

Hy, hast nee super arbeit abgeliefert, mach ruhig so weiter, um so mehr infos in den artikeln umso besser. Hab dir den 1st Ribbon Award auf deine Neuling seite gemacht, währe gut wenn du dort ein paar sachen z.B deine Projecte oder neuen Projecte postest. GrüsseDoneve 15:12, 21 February 2010 (UTC)

Endlich bin ich am ziel, morgen dann noch der feinschlief und ich habe es geschaft innerhalb von ein paar tagen. Weist eigenlich was die anderen von meiner arbeit so halten. denn du bist der einzige der mir bis her feedback gegeben hat. Ich hoffe die karten helfen beim verständnis der vorgänge. Neuling 20:30, 21 February 2010 (UTC)

Super arbeit, wiegesagt dafür hab ich dir ja dein Awards Bord auf deiner seite installiert. Mach dir mal keine sorgen wegen den Admins (coole leute), wenn was ist schicken wir dir schon eine nachricht. Nur so weiter wiegesagt BE BOLD.Doneve 20:42, 21 February 2010 (UTC)

Deletion Review

Doneve, for the Pbi 'article', you need to provide a reason, in order to give Editors a method for correcting any problem before it gets deleted, but more importantly, for telling an Admin why you think it should be deleted. To do so, replace the '1' with the reason you suggest deletion. Thanks. --Revanche ^{(talk|contribs)} 21:18, 21 February 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for your response, i'am lern.Doneve 21:56, 21 February 2010 (UTC)

Übersicht

Hallo, kannst du mir mal bitte ne übersicht geben in welcher reihenfolge operation bulldog ablief (welche welle welcher planet) den rest finde ich schon alleine heraus. Neuling 18:18, 22 February 2010 (UTC)

Hy, ich kann dir die Quellen, dazu sagen, aber jetzt mit welcher Welle und Planeten, puh da hast du dir aber ganz schön was vorgenommen, ich kann mich erst die kommenden tage einarbeiten, ich geb dir aber mal ein paar reference (books) tipps wo du sachen finden kannst.

1. Zu Operation Bulldog gehört auch Operation Bird Dog. 2. Du findest die Quellen, in Twilight of the Clans, The Dragon Roars, Shattered Sphere, 20 Year Update, und vor allem in den BattleTech Novells, da musste dich jetzt erstma durch kämpfen ;).Doneve 19:45, 22 February 2010 (UTC)

Danke, mir wurde schon anders geholfen und habe eine prima quelle für kartenmarterial gefunden falls du interesse hast, sag einfach bescheid Neuling 20:00, 22 February 2010 (UTC)

Yo, sag mir mal deine Quelle.Doneve 20:08, 22 February 2010 (UTC)

http://affshc.net/encyclopedia/general/maps/3059ccs.pdf da gibts viele karten (übersichtlich und verständlich) Neuling 22:30, 22 February 2010 (UTC)

ProtoMechs

Doneve, I'm realizing I don't have the time to research and design the ProtoMech infobox AND build it. Since you'll be the one working on ProtoMechs, go ahead and give me a bulleted list of what should be in the infobox, in the order you want it:

• Example 1
• Example 2
• Example 3

I'll then build the infobox. Thanks. --Revanche ^{(talk|contribs)} 15:37, 26 February 2010 (UTC)

Hy Revanche,i had a computer crash, but ill fix it ;);). I giv you tomorrow examples.Greetings Doneve 22:27, 26 February 2010 (UTC)

Doneve, I'm helping Revanche by trying to build the ProtoMech infobox you asked for. Could you please have a look at Template:InfoBoxProtoMech and see if I included the fields you needed? You can see it "in action" at User:Mbear/ProtoMechTest if that will help. --Mbear 23:16, 1 March 2010 (UTC)

Hy Mbear, good job, add please the BV to the infobox, thx.Doneve 23:43, 1 March 2010 (UTC)

UUpppsss i see the BV is added ;).Doneve 23:50, 1 March 2010 (UTC)

So you have everything you need? If not I can add whatever is missing.

I've also completed the Help page Help:CreateProtoMechArticle --Mbear 18:50, 2 March 2010 (UTC)

Random Act of Appreciation Award

Doneve, as a thank you for adding pics to several of the new bio pages I've put up lately:

Thank you very much! ClanWolverine101

Thanx a lot Clan Wolverine101, if you need pictures to articles, please tell me.GreetingsDoneve 20:22, 27 February 2010 (UTC)

I corrected the order of precedence of awards. If you need a graphic example, here it is. --Revanche ^{(talk|contribs)} 00:42, 1 March 2010 (UTC)

4th succession war

Servus, ich bins mal wieder. Ich habe in einer Marathonarbeit die operation rat durchgezogen und mache dann ab morgen noch die steiner front. Wie gefällts dir und hast du anregungen oder ideen für folgeprojekte. grüße Neuling 00:11, 1 March 2010 (UTC)

Moie, mal wieder ne top arbeit von dir ;). Hmm was hälst du von den Ronin Wars als folge project, oder die Word of Blake operationen im Jihad, oder secret agencies die könnten mal ein update gebrauchen ?.GrüsseDoneve 00:19, 1 March 2010 (UTC)

Servus, schau mal bitte über meinen letzten Beitrag zu 4th Succession war ich finde leider den fehler nicht. Kannst du das bitte korrigieren? Tnx Neuling 08:56, 1 March 2010 (UTC)

Ich hab mir mal erlaubt, das geradezubiegen. Das Problem war, daß manche Tabellen nicht mit "|}" sondern mit "| }" (also Leerzeichen dazwischen) aufhörten. Offenbar hat das die Formatierung zerschossen, weil sie nicht richtig terminiert waren. Und bei einer war einer Leerzeile zuviel eingefügt, das gab am Ende diesen komischen Doppelrahmen (leere Felder). Frabby 20:42, 1 March 2010 (UTC)

Adding PAGENAME to category

I'm curious: Why are you changing [[Category:JumpShips]] into [[Category:JumpShips|{{PAGENAME}}]] in the JumpShip articles? What does this do? Frabby 20:42, 1 March 2010 (UTC)

My failur, i fix it.Doneve 20:44, 1 March 2010 (UTC)

Es ist nicht wirklich falsch, nur sinnlos: Effektiv bedeutet das Kommando, daß man die Seite mit ihrem eigenen Namen in die Kategorie setzt. Das ist deshalb überflüssig, weil es sowieso passiert und nicht extra angegeben werden braucht ([[Category:JumpShips]] tut genau dasselbe und reicht daher aus). Den Pipe "|" braucht man nur dann dahinterzusetzen, wenn man den Artikel aus irgend einem Grund mit einem anderen Namen in der Kategorie haben will. Frabby 20:49, 1 March 2010 (UTC)

Ohhh, danke Frabby, jetzt machts klick.GrüsseDoneve 20:50, 1 March 2010 (UTC)

Image Import award

Doneve, a fellow Editor nominated you for the Image Import award, based upon your importation of over 40 quality images, primarily centered on biography article improvment, this last week. Reviewing your efforts, I agree that you make a fine recipient of this newest ribbon.

Congratulations, and keep up the good work. --Revanche ^{(talk|contribs)} 22:08, 2 March 2010 (UTC)

WOW, Thanks a lot to you and the fellow Editor :).Doneve 22:13, 2 March 2010 (UTC)

Einheitsabzeichen

Ich kann für viele Einheiten auch farbige Versionen hochladen. Ich brauche nur ne liste von welchen einheiten und dann läßt sich etwas machen. Genauso habe ich von vielen herstellern die firmenlogos und auch viele abzeichen und auszeichnungen in farbe. Was hälst du davon mir ne übersicht zu geben womit ich helfen kann.

Gibs außerdem schon ne seite für infanteriewaffen und unterstützungswaffen. Ich habe da noch einiges auf petto. Ich brauche nur zu wissen wo und in welchen umfang. habe auch zu fast allen bilder.

Wegen den geheimdiensten mache ich heute noch einiges und auch zu den ronin-kriegen wird noch was passieren bis denn. grüße Neuling 21:04, 3 March 2010 (UTC)

Hy kannst du mir nee reference geben von den colour foul pics` geben. Ich möchte sie mit photoshop bearbeiten. Ich weiss mein englisch iss scheisse ;). Die Seite of Infanty Weapeons is add, wenn du ideen oder andere beiträge hast, post it...BE BOLD. Ich weiss nich ob du einen icq, oder trilian oder oder, ich sende dir mal meine ICQ 562668022, ist einfacher für die konversatione :).Doneve 21:30, 3 March 2010 (UTC)

Edit Count

Wow, you've sped past Nicjansma's edit count, which was done by his bot! And with quality uploads, too. I checked to make sure you were 'wearing' the ribbon you had earned, but saw that you already had the 10k displayed. While you're probably only days away from getting 10,000 edits, Special:UserScore shows you are currently at 9,169. Not a big thing at all, because if anyone will get the 10k ribbon first, it'll be you, but wanted to inform you that you take the ribbon you have achieved, not the 'next' one. Nonetheless, impressive work. --Revanche ^{(talk|contribs)} 00:56, 8 March 2010 (UTC)

Thanks Revanche, i have so many time, i'm a little bit injured by c..., thanks for your support.Doneve 01:01, 8 March 2010 (UTC)

--Revanche ^{(talk|contribs)} 02:03, 8 March 2010 (UTC)

Wrong Image

Hi Doneve. The image for the Jenner (JR7-D) CCG is wrong. By any chance do you have the correct image? Thanks for the help. --Ebakunin ^{(talk|contribs)} 03:53, 12 March 2010 (UTC)

Ok, i serch for it, and uploade then.Doneve 10:34, 12 March 2010 (UTC)

I have the image from the unlimited edition, not from the CommandersEditon grml, i hope i can found it in next time.GreetingsDoneve 10:56, 12 March 2010 (UTC)

Hello. I found another incorrect image. Do you have the correct card? Thanks. --Ebakunin ^{(talk|contribs)} 23:11, 13 March 2010 (UTC)

The Card is uploaded, i took the false image to the card, when not ill do it again, tell to me.Doneve 23:14, 13 March 2010 (UTC)

Moratorium Violation

On the Phillip Drummond article you added information from a recently published source, [[{{{2}}}]]. While you are not required to undo the edit you made or remove the reference, please be aware that this is in violation of the moratorium policy. This policy places a moratorium on using sources that have been published (whether in hard copy or digitally) within the last two months, except in special circumstances. Thank you for your contribution to BattleTechWiki, and please keep this policy in mind when editing in the future.

--Revanche ^{(talk|contribs)} 00:08, 13 March 2010 (UTC)

How long goes the Operation Klondike moratorium, i know the time is 2 months, i think it is published at the end on january or at 1st february week, i don't have a publishing date, i delete my addings, sorryDoneve 00:21, 13 March 2010 (UTC)

I think you need to ask Frabby to translate for you. Only the PDF has been released...not the book yet. --Revanche ^{(talk|contribs)} 12:07, 13 March 2010 (UTC)

UPPSS sorry, it was not my oppinion, to make Violation.Doneve 12:09, 13 March 2010 (UTC)

Your Copyediting

Doneve - I see you've been making formatting changes to many of the bios. Are the changes uniform with others? Or did you come up with this setup yourself? I based those bios (the ones I wrote anyway) off the formats of several pre-existing bios. ClanWolverine101

Hy i think it is a usefull setup, it brings some structure in the Biblio. and Ref. jungle, and no i see it on the wiki and picked up.Doneve 22:52, 14 March 2010 (UTC)

Sorry for intruding here, but if both of you are interested in bios, you should know the Quick-start template needs work. I created that back when I was almost the only active Editor and just wanted to form a framework, so it is not as well thought-out as some of the other templates. If you guys want to develop bio policy, there's no better time.--Revanche ^{(talk|contribs)} 23:26, 14 March 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, I have to tell you - I kinda preferred the format I had already been using. Would you like to have a discussion about this, as Revanche suggested? ClanWolverine101

Why not, a discussion is always welcome.Doneve 01:37, 15 March 2010 (UTC)

Great. Revanche - Is there an appropriate page? ClanWolverine101

How about Help talk:CreateCharacterArticle? Perfectly located for nailing down the standards. You guys start it and I'll put it on the front page (in the Chatterweb).--Revanche ^{(talk|contribs)} 02:57, 15 March 2010 (UTC)

Duplicate Pictures

Hello Doneve. I already uploaded Jes II picture. It appears we were editing at the same time. Can you delete yours? we don't need two. -- Wrangler 20:04, 16 March 2010 (UTC)

Upppsss, i fix it.Doneve 20:08, 16 March 2010 (UTC)

User pages

Doneve, please don't alter user's main pages, as you did to User:FellBlade‎, unless invited. They are the personal pages of individual users. If something concerns you, please let an Admin know and we'll address the issue. Thanks. --Revanche ^{(talk|contribs)} 18:37, 19 March 2010 (UTC)

Ok, my failur, tnx.Doneve 18:48, 19 March 2010 (UTC)

To be honest, I imagine you did what he was trying to do. In fact, utilizing images is something that still gives me grief, so I'm hoping his experience didn't scare him off. But, thanks anyway. --Revanche ^{(talk|contribs)} 18:50, 19 March 2010 (UTC)

Random Act of Appreciation Award

Doneve, you've been adding images to the ProtoMech pages I've been creating very quickly. I really appreciate that. To show you how much, I'm giving you your second Random Act of Appreciation Award. Thanks!--Mbear 14:30, 23 March 2010 (UTC)

Huuhhh Thanks a lot Mbear, and for your great work on the wiki.Doneve 16:31, 23 March 2010 (UTC)

Direction Appreciated Award

For providing the direction requested by ClanWolverine101 in regards to reference sources, I present you the Direction Appreciated Award:

You're working on the right course, when you assist another Editor in his projects. --Revanche ^{(talk|contribs)} 17:20, 23 March 2010 (UTC)

Wow Wow thanks a lot ClanWolverine101.Doneve 19:24, 23 March 2010 (UTC)

What-what-what?! Hey! Where's the love? --Revanche ^{(talk|contribs)} 01:00, 24 March 2010 (UTC)

Ohh i take it to you, , from the english grammer donky :)Doneve 01:26, 24 March 2010 (UTC)

--Revanche ^{(talk|contribs)} 01:44, 24 March 2010 (UTC)

Rev, did he just call you a donkey? ;-0 --Scaletail 01:48, 24 March 2010 (UTC)

Maybe, maybe...only our German friends know for sure. --Revanche ^{(talk|contribs)} 11:04, 24 March 2010 (UTC)

What, i don't call Revanche a donky, I'm the grammer donky LOL.Doneve 01:48, 26 March 2010 (UTC)

See, I would have nominated you... :P Seriously thank you for your help. ClanWolverine101 01:55, 24 March 2010 (UTC)

Casual Edit Award

I give you the Casual Edit Award:

for tirelessly making numerious minor improvements to wiki articles. What caught my attention was both flagging citation needed on several bios and added images to several Lyran unit articles. --Neufeld 05:51, 26 March 2010 (UTC)

Moratorium Violation

Hello Doneve. The file Phillip Drummond.jpg imagine was added from a recently unpublished source. While you are not required to undo the edit you made or remove the reference, please be aware that this is in violation of the moratorium policy. This policy places a moratorium on using sources that have been published in hard copy form within the last two months, except in special circumstances. Thank you for your contribution to BattleTechWiki, and please keep this policy in mind when editing in the future. Example: Historical: Operation Klondike. You imported picture from the book, before its in print. We are required by Sarna.net regulations not important anything PDF/imagine/information until the a publication is in PRINT for two months. -- Wrangler 13:57, 26 March 2010 (UTC)

Oh I see it, it was not my opinion to make Moratorium Violation, i remove the image.Doneve 14:02, 26 March 2010 (UTC)

Hi there Doneve, Make sure you do ALL of the pictures. I'm going been looking through all your uploaded files. You added alot imagines from Operation Klondike. You do understand this could get us into trouble if you take pictures too new do you? -- Wrangler 15:01, 26 March 2010 (UTC)

Hy again, ok i search for my added pictures from Operation Klondike and remove it, when you find some one, you can remove it by yourself, ThanksDoneve 15:05, 26 March 2010 (UTC)