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-- New user message (talk) 18:18, 23 June 2021 (EDT)


Good, solid first edits. Thanks. I suspect you're not that new at this.--Revanche (talk|contribs) 19:10, 23 June 2021 (EDT)

My identity is a mystery wholly unrelated to any recent IP that couldn't upload images without an account. Wholly unrelated. Tumult&Travail (talk) 19:13, 23 June 2021 (EDT)
Damnit! That could be just about anybody.--Revanche (talk|contribs) 20:16, 23 June 2021 (EDT)
A mysterious mystery. And with Caveat Emptor thoroughly stripped for parts - unless we need one-line articles on Biff McStrongjaw and other technicians - I shall remain a mystery, disappearing into lurkerhood until I have both the will and the content to contribute again. Tumult&Travail (talk) 01:04, 24 June 2021 (EDT)

Good Article Award[edit]

I was watching your edits after you posted the La Grande Armée unit logo and was not disappointed, Very interesting read and a great addition. I'll be building your Awards Board on your user page to support this. Thank you for the fine addition.
Good Article Award, 1st ribbon
--Revanche (talk|contribs) 14:03, 27 June 2021 (EDT)

You're welcome, and thanks. I plan on navigating the maze fragments of information and misnumbered pages to handle what I can of Requiem. Tumult&Travail (talk) 14:25, 27 June 2021 (EDT)
...and then semi-retiring, right? ;) --Revanche (talk|contribs) 14:27, 27 June 2021 (EDT)
No comment. Tumult&Travail (talk) 16:22, 27 June 2021 (EDT)

Requiem for a Blue Star[edit]

Hey, can you please weigh in here on how to handle that PDF's numbering errors?--Revanche (talk|contribs) 21:11, 27 June 2021 (EDT)

How did you determine the Federated Suns hired the La Grande Armée? I think you reference (PDF) pages 3 & 11, but the only reference I find to the Suns in the scenario is on (PDF) page 18?--Revanche (talk|contribs) 21:45, 27 June 2021 (EDT)
Page 3 PDF: Results settled on House Davion as the employer. Tumult&Travail (talk) 23:00, 27 June 2021 (EDT)
Good catch. On Sarna, we (try to) make the distinction between the family (House) and the state. Combined with it being later than I realized, I wasn't critical enough in expanding my search terms. Thanks. Would you please review La Grande Armée to make sure my page numbers align with your original intent?--Revanche (talk|contribs) 07:44, 28 June 2021 (EDT)
Done. Minor adjustments: I put back a reference to the results page when noting La Grande Armée's victory, and for safety, swapped the Federated Suns out for House Davion. While Requiem is largely written in terms of states rather than houses and whoever wrote the Requiem page interpreted it as the Fed Suns, it's probably safest to keep to the exact term used in the results sheet. Tumult&Travail (talk) 08:09, 28 June 2021 (EDT)
That logic works for me. Good job. --Revanche (talk|contribs) 12:05, 28 June 2021 (EDT)

Appreciation for Thorough Image Summaries[edit]

Thank you for the effort you have put in while uploading new images. Your addition of Caveat Emptor images is appreciated. Also, I had just logged on to add the origins of Sharon Meidinger's and Erik Cliett's portraits and see that you took care of that.
All Purpose Award, 1st ribbon
--Cache (talk) 09:37, 4 July 2021 (EDT)

You're welcome, and thanks. I'm pretty sure the other portraits from the two Free RPG Day quick starts are reused art - Bebout especially feels like he got lost on his way to Shadowrun. I know one of the two unuploaded ones from 2013 (couldn't extract in formats that didn't require significant cleanup) is another Ben Newman reuse. Tumult&Travail (talk) 11:11, 4 July 2021 (EDT)
Berchon and Bebout images are generic archetypes in A Time of War (pages 99-100). Sipos, Jackson, and Milton I can't place at the moment. Detweiler is very familiar and I'm trying to locate him now.--Cache (talk) 11:31, 4 July 2021 (EDT)
Herb Beas helped on the official forums with Sipos, Jackson, and Milton. All are archetypes found in AToW Companion, pp. 86-88.--Cache (talk) 13:01, 4 July 2021 (EDT)
Didn't even think to look through the AToW generics. Good search. Now, if only we knew the artists... Tumult&Travail (talk) 14:00, 4 July 2021 (EDT)

Coventry Fir[edit]

All Purpose Award, 1st ribbon
For a sober but laugh-inducing article, all in one. Thanks for highlighting even the "minor" subjects. --Revanche (talk|contribs) 15:17, 25 July 2021 (EDT)

Citing articles[edit]

Consistently good work on improving Sarna's citability. A bit of guidance: when referring to an article (section, side-bar, etc) within a given title, please use double quotation marks (" ") rather than italics. For example, when citing the article "Assassination Protocol: Katherine Steiner-Davion" from Shrapnel Issue #3, it would look like:

Shrapnel Issue #3, "Assassination Protocol: Katherine Steiner-Davion"

Similarly, within a book, the citation would look like:

Field Manual: 3085, pp. 162-163, "Relocation Directives."

Again, thank you for all the additions you have and are adding to the project. They are far more important than I think most people perceive.--Revanche (talk|contribs) 10:24, 1 February 2022 (EST)

Got it, thanks.Tumult&Travail (talk) 23:11, 1 February 2022 (EST)
Just looking at the Martin Kerensky and Nikolai Ward articles and this is the direction the wiki needs to go! One small request though, try and also add a citation to the info in the infobox. Doing it is standard makes life much easier when we have long articles!--Dmon (talk) 09:42, 3 February 2022 (EST)

Helping with the Orphans[edit]

Your third, I believe? :) All Purpose Award, 3rd ribbon


Have an award for your recent work on the Northwind article. I feel it is an important part of the wiki for RPGers that we have those lists of planetary locations. Random Act of Appreciation Award, 1st ribbon. --Dmon (talk) 05:12, 31 March 2022 (EDT)

Thanks. All just from one page of source material, at that. The MWDA PDFs really need more attention, by in large. Tumult&Travail (talk) 08:51, 31 March 2022 (EDT)

Thank you.[edit]

All Purpose Award, 4th ribbon
For helping with the collateral damage.--Talvin (talk) 13:52, 3 July 2022 (EDT)

You're welcome. Just wanted to clean up a few pages I recently made, is all. -Tumult&Travail (talk) 17:53, 3 July 2022 (EDT)