Talk:Betrayal of Ideals

Are these stories still available online? I checked BattleCorps, but somehow didn't find them. Were they taken down? Any help would be appriciated!

BattleCorps is a subscription-based website, an e-zine of some sort. You get (only) the fiction that is released while you subscribe, but subscribed users have the opportunity to purchase older pieces of fiction via Battleshop. I do have the stories, and I only joined BC in 2008. Frabby 09:39, 29 April 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for the details regarding their subscription/publishing policy! No wonder I wasn't able to locate the stories. 93.182.190.38 09:48, 29 April 2010 (UTC)

New Release

With the release of a new, hardcopy version of Betrayal of Ideals, complete with two new chapters, this will presumably need to go back under moratorium; that begs the question of should the moratorium date be based around Gencon, where the first hard copies were available, or when a general copy goes on sale through Amazon/DTRPG, either in hard or soft copy? BrokenMnemonic (talk) 05:48, 11 August 2016 (PDT)

I'm a bit unsure myself, but I tend to set the moratorium to start with GenCon release (i.e. 5 August 2016) when the print edition was first sold. I hope to have a copy in my hands soon, so I can revisit the article then. Frabby (talk) 11:47, 12 August 2016 (PDT)

Questions raised by the last epilogue

1) What happened to the Explorer Corps report on the site found at the Barbados system? The site contained the markings of all the Clans but 9 years later ComStar failed to recognize them when the Clans started their invasion of the Inner Sphere. Either the expedition never made it back to report their findings and died in a JumpShip accident, or Primus Myndo Waterly (or someone else) suppressed the report from the First Circuit and Anastasius Focht? Also, considering also that the expedition had determined that someone had recently been at the site, was any attempt made to contact the builders of the site once the Clans invaded? 2) What is the significance of the 16 seats around the tombs?

• Since Trish Ebon swore that the Clans would all pay for the destruction of Wolverine, the 16 Clans could represent the still existing Clans. and for each Clan destroyed, a chair would be removed. However, by 3040 there were 17 Clans left, after Clans Mongoose and Widowmaker were absorbed, unless one considers that Clan Burrock's dealings with the Dark Caste would automatically bring their destruction, as it did later in 3059. Also IIRC, somewhere in the novel one of Wolverine' Khans mentions that the Clans will eventually self-destruct, so the Wolverines could simply be acting in the shadows and using the Dark Caste to spy on the other clans and eventually bring their demise through subterfuge (instead of an armed attack that would unite the remaining clans against them).
• Another possibility is that it represents the number of seats in the Wolverine Council with the site serving the same function as the Grand Council on Strana Mechty.