Template:When

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Usage

Add {{When}} or {{When|reason=Your explanation here}} after a time period to indicate that the time period is so vague or ambiguous that you do not understand what is being said. BattleTechWiki does not ban the use of general or relative time descriptions, like "before", "after", "since then", "now", or "in modern times" if the context is sufficiently clear for you to understand what time period is being referred to.

Purpose

• Use when a lack of precision prevents you from understanding the material.
• Do not use for disputes: If the date in question is disputed (controversial, unlikely, impossible, or otherwise more problematic than simply needing clarification), use {{Citation needed}} or some other dispute template.
• After placing the template in the article, it is a good idea to create a new When heading on that page’s talk page, so as to provide a forum to discuss the unclear time phrase.

Examples of fixing unclear time phrases

The following are some examples of unclear time phrases along with examples of how to fix them.

Time phrases tied to the present

BTW pages may exist for decades, and any time phrase tied to the present "now" will not only be incorrect or misleading in a year or two, but is also immediately unclear as to when exactly is meant, because Wikipedia readers cannot easily determine when a particular statement was written.

Words that will show you that the sentence is tied to the present include:

• Words such as "presently", "currently", "now" or "today";
• References to "this year", "this decade" or "this century";
• Phrases such as "is in talks", "is planning", or "to this day".
• Statements that use the word "still" in a context such as: "The statue is still standing in its original location."

Forward- and backward-looking statements may also be unintentionally anchored in the present:

• Sentences about future intentions ("will acquire Saab")
• The immediate past ("for the past 10 years")
• Relative time phrases ("last year", "10 years ago", "in 10 years", "within a decade", etc.)

One way to correct such usage is with an introductory phrase such as "In April 2007" or "As of 2007". Another way is to omit the present reference altogether (e.g. replace "He has worked there for the past 10 years and still works there today" with "He first began work there in 2015".)

Imprecise time specifiers

Some phrases are vague and/or ambiguous. "Recent", "lately", "soon", are relative temporal relationships and, therefore, not appropriate for Wikipedia. Does "recent" mean last week, last month, last year, last century? Ambiguity and vagueness diminish the utility of Wikipedia articles and should not just be eschewed, but eliminated.

There are many words and phrases that imply the passage of time, but these implications are ambiguous and should be replaced with explicit, unambiguous, and referenced, statements of fact. Examples include:

• "recent"
• "lately"
• "soon"
• "at a certain point"
• "at one point"
• "for some time"
• "for a while"
• "formerly"
• "frequently"
• "often"
• "previously"
• "during one period" (or "stage" or "phase")

Another example is the phrase "used to" when applied in a context, such as "He used to go there every day."

Date ambiguity

A date written in the format mn/xy/2009 may mean different things in different places — and even in the same place. To some, 1/4/2009 means "1 April 2009"; to others, "January 4, 2009".

Why seasons should not describe time

Seasons fall in different ranges of time depending on the area, and so using them to describe a particular range of time is vague and misleading to the reader. You'll often see this type of description in phrasing like the following:

• [Some event happened] in [season] of [year].
• [Something was completed] by [season] of [year].
• [Something happened] at [a particular date]. The next [season]...

When describing time of year rather than local conditions or a more formal use of a seasonal name (e.g., summer school), be as precise as your source of information will allow, from a date range to a calendar-related description of part of a year:

• 15 September–5 November 1995 (or September 15–November 5, 1995 if that's the format standard throughout the article)
• September–November 1995
• Before the end of the fourth quarter of 1995
• Latter part of 1995

You can also find other systems to which you can anchor the time-frame, as long as they relate to the subject of the article:

• The first few months of the 1995 school year (which begins at that district in September)
• Sometime in the 1995 hunting season, which in that state runs from September 15 to November 5.

Exceptions

Do not change ambiguous material in a direct quotation. Instead, give an appropriate clarification in brackets:

The statue is inscribed: "For the valiant heroes of 1/4/2009" (1 April 2009).

Tracking Categories

• Category:Articles with vague or ambiguous time (34)

See also

• {{Clarify timeframe}}
• {{Year needed}} – asks for a specific year

TemplateData

TemplateData for When

Use after a statement of a time period in an article that is so vague or ambiguous you do not understand which period is being referred to.

Template parameters[Edit template data]

This template prefers inline formatting of parameters.

Parameter		Description	Type	Status
Reason	reason	The explanation for why this was added.	String	suggested

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