User talk:BobTheZombie

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Proofreading

Feel free to add any pages you want proofread or cleaned up to the bottom of this list and I will go through and clean them up.

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Weapons List

Almost done... -BobTheZombie (talk) 11:07, 19 January 2014 (PST)
No worries. If there something going on you think i should be ware of, that fine with me. Keep the good work up! -- Wrangler (talk) 13:41, 19 January 2014 (PST)

Operation Guerrero

Hello. How much time do I have to make the corrections? I understand that this is a placeholder that will be put back into the main article when done. Also... if you are adding the Chaos March worlds, you should also add the Disputed Territories too.--Aldous (talk) 17:48, 20 January 2014 (PST)

Take as long as you need to add those; I have plenty of other stuff to work on in the meantime. And yes, all the stuff to the end needs references (or to be added if something is missing). Thanks. -BobTheZombie (talk) 04:25, 21 January 2014 (PST)
Be advised that Zurich wasn't part of the second wave. You should add a section that covers actions by rebels/revolutionaries/terrorists that were supported by Marik Mercs. Northwind would fall under this category.--Aldous (talk) 04:43, 21 January 2014 (PST)

Content

Hello, I moved all content of the pages which are listed of the CCAF -talk page. You can now delete the pages with out any further concern. With best regards Neuling (talk) 00:46, 26 January 2014 (PST)

Cockpit Page

Again, thank you for writing this page. You deserve this: All Purpose Award, 1st ribbon --S.gage (talk) 09:58, 1 February 2014 (PST)

Why, thank you! I guess it could still use some work, but I first wanted to save it from the decrepit form it used to have. Thanks again! -BobTheZombie (talk) 10:44, 1 February 2014 (PST)

SIAMS Training Group

Hello. Why is Leftenant General not italicized but Sao Shao is?--Aldous (talk) 18:25, 19 February 2014 (PST)

Leftenant General falls under the category of normal ranks that don't need to be italicized. See the policy talk page concerning this:
  • "Usually only Chinese and Japanese ranks get italics." - Mbear
  • "Unless the title is in a foreign language, it should not be italicized." - Scaletail
That is why I thought the rank in question didn't need the italics, but the others did. -BobTheZombie (talk) 18:34, 19 February 2014 (PST)
Spot on. BrokenMnemonic (talk) 00:06, 28 February 2014 (PST)

Casual Edit Award

Good morning Bob (I have to keep reminding myself to not type Bub - I've watched Day of the Dead too many times)
I'm impressed with the tempo of work you've kept up on here since joining, and the way that you're doing things like bringing up issues in talk pages - basically, doing all the right things. I was going to give you another Act of Appreciation Award when I noticed that you didn't have a Casual Edit Award. Casual Edit Awards are notionally for when "an editor witnesses another editor making a minor addition or correction to any random article." I'd say I'm a little surprised you don't have one, but I'm going to award you one now:
Casual Edit Award, 1st ribbon
Once I've checked your contributions log to make sure that you've made at least one edit to a random file, of course... Wink.gif BrokenMnemonic (talk) 00:06, 28 February 2014 (PST)

Thank you very much! That means a lot to me, though sadly I've never seen Day of the Dead before... -BobTheZombie (talk) 14:36, 28 February 2014 (PST)

Assistance Appreciated Award

Hey Bob, I have taken the liberty of giving you a Assistance Appreciated Award for your sterling service in helping out with the situation dealing with House Military Layouts. I am not always the most diplomatic of chaps and you stepped in and calmly and efficiently presented a very good idea of putting it to the wider community. Thank you. --Dmon (talk) 02:23, 14 March 2014 (PDT)

Thanks for that; I don't even know why but I just made an account there recently and wanted to help Sarna through it. I'm planning more outreach to them in the near future. -BobTheZombie (talk) 07:15, 14 March 2014 (PDT)

Re-Engineered Laser‎s

Hi BobTheZombie, do you want me to spruce up the other Re-Engineering Laser articles? Game Play/Construction Rules should be listed seperately or least be in uniformed. I think my weakest point was the infobox, its kinda confusing for me. -- Wrangler (talk) 19:10, 16 March 2014 (PDT)

Sure, go ahead and work on them; the infobox looked fine by the way. Sorry, too much going on at the moment, will check back tomorrow. -BobTheZombie (talk) 20:01, 16 March 2014 (PDT)

New Layout for military pages

Hello BobTheZombie, I discover that all text will be displayed from an article until the first sub section begins, I hope that information will help you in some way. With best regards Neuling (talk) 15:55, 18 March 2014 (PDT)

Sorry, but I'm not entirely sure what you mean. Are you talking about the summary at the beginning of an article? -BobTheZombie (talk) 16:11, 18 March 2014 (PDT)
I Thik when you used the onlyinclude tags, the text is repeat until the first sub section of the page. When you use a whort summary and then start the text with a section like historical or overview it only whows the paragraph until then. I hope my explanaition is not to bad. With best regards Neuling (talk) 16:24, 18 March 2014 (PDT)
If you're talking about my sandbox, then yes, I was hiding what I had had on the page with onlyinclude tags so that I could still see it but not have to delete all the info. I simply forgot to fully add the intro and have since revamped the page. I think I understand all you were trying to say. Please forgive me for my difficulty in understanding you. -BobTheZombie (talk) 05:06, 19 March 2014 (PDT)

Casual Edit Award: Spidermech

Casual Edit Award, 2nd ribbonI'm happy to see how you whipped the Spidermech article into shape between the three of you. This particular article has been a thorn in my side for some time because I knew it needed a serious rework but I knew nothing about the subject matter myself. So, for getting this out of my head, I'm giving each of you a Casual Edit Award (2nd ribbon). Thanks! Frabby (talk) 01:46, 21 March 2014 (PDT)

I haven't even played MechAssault, but I thought that that article needed some help. Thanks! -BobTheZombie (talk) 07:29, 21 March 2014 (PDT)

TPTB Rulings

Hi Bob,
Thanks for including a reference to the TPTB ruling on the origin of the name of the LB-X Autocannon in the article - personally, I think one of the roles for Sarna to play is to track rulings from TPTB on canon detail that aren't specified in the published material; things like errata and rulings that tend to get lost whenever CGL backs up it's forums, or has it crashed. Anyway, I'd like to give you this award as thanks:
Random Act of Appreciation Award, 3rd ribbon
However, there is one thing I'd ask - when you're including details of a ruling or something similar in an article, can you also directly quote the detail either in the Notes section, as I've done with articles like the one on Colonial Tractors, or in the Talk page for the article, as Frabby's done with the Full Moon article? Whenever TPTB update their boards, we end up with dead links - copying the text itself across preserves that ruling, and hopefully makes Sarna more useful for those doing research. BrokenMnemonic (talk) 11:09, 24 March 2014 (PDT)

Thank you! It was by pure chance that I saw that post and decided it should be added to the page. I completely forgot about quoting it and will try to remember to do that if I find more in the future. Thanks once again! -BobTheZombie (talk) 15:20, 24 March 2014 (PDT)
You definitely had the right instincts when it came to flagging up Herb's ruling in the article here. What made me sensitive to making sure that the quotes themselves are included was when I was doing some work on updating the WarShip class pages and I found a reference on (I think) the Kyushu that talked about the fate of various ships having been confirmed by the Developers, complete with a link - that that led nowhere, because the boards had been hacked after the link was generated, and the area was inaccessible through internet resources like the Wayback Machine, making it impossible to dig the ruling out. I hate the idea of losing relevant information when we can do something to preserve it here Wink.gif BrokenMnemonic (talk) 01:25, 25 March 2014 (PDT)
Why yes, of course that makes complete sense! I agree that placing the actual text here is a great idea, and I guess I hadn't thought of it, but there must have been a lot of information loss at the great BT crash of 2011. I just have to remember how it gets all laid out when you do add it though... -BobTheZombie (talk) 04:23, 25 March 2014 (PDT)
I normally just go back to an entry I've already used a quote in and copy and paste - Colonial Tractors is my go-to at the moment. It catches me out when people change title/post though - Herb's no longer Lead Developer, for example, although I keep forgetting that. One problem I have found that isn't obvious is that some URLs don't work well with the quote code. It's usually best to use the URL for a message within a thread, rather than for the thread - thread title URLs seem to break the quote code. You can tell if that's the problem because the mask for the hyperlink shows up empty. BrokenMnemonic (talk) 12:46, 25 March 2014 (PDT)
I remembered that he wasn't but he posted in the developers thread and didn't care much. I'll try to find urls to posts inside next time. -BobTheZombie (talk) 13:01, 25 March 2014 (PDT)

Formatting

Hi Bob,
I'm doing my morning catch-up on the Ask the Writers/Developers section and I spotted your question about formatting. I think I know where you may have seen it detailed already - Mbear has a copy of it on his user page here, based on the submission criteria for BattleCorps writers as-was... Frabby has since confirmed that there's a more up-to-date version of the guidelines in use with the BattleCorps writers, but didn't get a response when he asked for permission to post it, so we're still working to the older version here. The only difference on Sarna is that for wiki categorisation purposes, unit article names use the numerical format regardless, so that they show up in the correct order, and in the last year or so I think we've started actively switching over to following the writing conventions consistently. There was a debate about it on one of the policy pages here somewhere, although I'm blowed if I can work out where. I don't know if that helps at all? BrokenMnemonic (talk) 00:19, 7 April 2014 (PDT)

To wit, while there is a more refined style guide document floating around in NDA space, I don't think there is a difference in the actual rulings, compared to the publicly accessible one. Frabby (talk) 03:37, 7 April 2014 (PDT)
I knew that we had something but wondered if they could give anything more detailed/up to date; I was specifically wondering about the centuries thing and wanted to know how all that was so when I get more time I can reference that and clean some stuff up. I just wish my schedule could open up so I could be on here more than a minute at a time... -BobTheZombie (talk) 04:50, 7 April 2014 (PDT)

MP in infobox.

Short answer: No. Long answer: We don't want to do that because MP isn't always relevant. You have Alpha Strike, BattleForce, etc. which can use different methods of determining MP.

The fluff speeds (96km/h) are always correct, and for BattleTech you just divide the speed by 10 to get the number of MPs.

And besides, do you really want to have to update the thousands of articles we have for 'Mechs, tanks, VTOLs, etc. that this would require? *shudder*.

BTW, you can get a faster answer and insure all the admins see your question by posting on the BattleTechWiki:Administrators talk page.--Mbear(talk) 10:47, 9 April 2014 (PDT)

Okidoki. I was simply bringing it up because someone requested I do so. And yes, I know that it would have been thousands of pages; Thanks for the response. I just hope I can kindly explain this... -BobTheZombie (talk) 12:17, 9 April 2014 (PDT)
may I suggest "The decision was made because MP isn't the only movement measure in the BattleTech family of games. By providing the speed in km/h, it's possible to compute the MP for all the other games as well."--Mbear(talk) 03:30, 10 April 2014 (PDT)
Yeah, that should work, and next time I'll go to the Admin page; I didn't try it because I didn't think of it, I guess. Also, what about the armor idea? -BobTheZombie (talk) 08:56, 10 April 2014 (PDT)
I don't mind people talking to me on my page - I like seeing the little message bar appear when I log in Smiley.gif Although, sadly, it's not because people are giving me awards so much these days. BrokenMnemonic (talk) 09:54, 10 April 2014 (PDT)
Yeah, I'm probably the worst about giving out awards because I never think of it; that is of course until someone give me one, then I feel bad. I really should hand out more given I patrol the recent changes... -BobTheZombie (talk) 12:46, 10 April 2014 (PDT)
What armor idea?--Mbear(talk) 04:31, 11 April 2014 (PDT)
I mentioned on BM's talk page that they also wanted armor points, but that's going too specific. Sorry about the confusion. It would have helped if I had posted at one place; I will next time. -BobTheZombie (talk) 04:56, 11 April 2014 (PDT)
No problem. We don't usually get that detailed. There are other websites that go into that much detail, we don't want to be one of them.
And the scattered messages problem is why I suggested the Admin page. Wink.gif-Mbear(talk) 07:38, 11 April 2014 (PDT)

Army page survey

Hey, what were the results of your survey over on the forums?--Mbear(talk) 07:47, 10 April 2014 (PDT)

From BattleTechWiki talk:Project Military Commands:
  • AFFS (the new way) - 4
  • A mix of the two - 6
  • FWLM (the old way) - 2
I also have the Layout thread saved in a text document if you want it; the formatting was lost, but all the info is still there. It looks like they've since removed it from the BT forums. There was also one person's response on NGNG that was included in the above voting results. -BobTheZombie (talk) 08:56, 10 April 2014 (PDT)

Fanon wiki URL?

Bob,

What URL do you have for the Fanon wiki? I just want to be sure I send people to the same place you do. The one I have is http://battletechfanon.wikia.com/wiki/BattleTech_Fanon_Wiki Thanks!--Mbear(talk) 04:22, 16 April 2014 (PDT)

Yes, that's the one; I didn't know there were any other BT fanon wikis... -BobTheZombie (talk) 04:45, 16 April 2014 (PDT)
I don't know if there are, but I thought we should all be on the same page. (Pardon the pun.)--Mbear(talk) 04:58, 16 April 2014 (PDT)
Hahaha... yeah I don't know why I didn't link to the fanon wiki (or more specificially, the page). Just too much on my mind I guess. -BobTheZombie (talk) 14:41, 16 April 2014 (PDT)


New unit pages

Copied from Doneve's talk page. Hey can you do me a favor? When you put together a new unit page like Kappa Galaxy (Clan Jade Falcon), just mark it as a stub page. Don't include the update needed tag. The page is so empty that stub is a better reflection of what needs to be done. Thank you!--Mbear(talk) 05:26, 10 April 2014 (PDT)

I could help out; so the update needed tag need to be removed? -BobTheZombie (talk) 07:16, 10 April 2014 (PDT)
Ideally yes, the Update Needed tag would be removed. The UN tag was created to inform users that an article needed an update from a source that was under Moratorium. It later morphed into what we have today.--Mbear(talk) 09:28, 25 April 2014 (PDT)
Okay, makes sense; I will work on that later this weekend but can't do much at the moment because of internet issues. -BobTheZombie (talk) 15:01, 25 April 2014 (PDT)

Re-Role

Hi Bob,
I just wanted to let you know there's a technical difference between rerolled - as in "the dice were rerolled" - and re-roled, as in "7 Para (V) were re-roled, becoming a standard light infantry battalion". To re-role a military unit or item of equipment is to change it's organization, structure or use to fill a new capability role. Every time there's a military restructuring here in the UK you'll read news about various units being re-roled (assuming they aren't disbanded) and when vehicles start getting used for something other than the task for which they were purchased, they're referred to as having been re-roled. It's not a phrase unique to the UK military either - you can see the Canadian military using the term here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iE8TvSZ_UvY BrokenMnemonic (talk) 11:49, 24 July 2014 (PDT)

Ah, yes, that makes sense; that's what happens when I don't pay enough attention. I'll be sure to watch for that in the future. Should I revert those which I changed, or are you going to? -BobTheZombie (talk) 11:53, 24 July 2014 (PDT)
There are others? BrokenMnemonic (talk) 13:34, 24 July 2014 (PDT)
There were more, but I think I got them all. I wrote that before just getting them. Sorry for the confusion. -BobTheZombie (talk) 15:39, 24 July 2014 (PDT)

Cave Lion

Hi BobTheZombie, when i get home today, I'll work on Cave Lion if no one jumps on between now and then. -- Wrangler (talk) 04:51, 5 August 2014 (PDT)

Cool! That would be quite helpful. -BobTheZombie (talk) 09:23, 5 August 2014 (PDT)
I've finished the revision to the Cave Lion. Please feel free to edit it to clear up any grammer issues i may had with it! I had problem with your MUL reference link on the Production Year line of the info box when i transferred the information over to a updated Infobox. -- Wrangler (talk) 19:18, 5 August 2014 (PDT)
Thanks! I'm short on time now, but will get back to it and finish proofreading it soon. -BobTheZombie (talk) 21:46, 5 August 2014 (PDT)
Okay, I'm finished with it. -BobTheZombie (talk) 17:44, 9 August 2014 (PDT)

Doctor X

Thank you BobTheZombie. Wow that sounds like a lot, I'll just call ya Bob, ok and y'all can just call me Craig :) I did have the chance to make my first edit, Its on the Fidelis page, the part about the Dante-Class Frigate. It may not be as grammatically correct as it should be (blame that on early morning insomnia) but as a first attempt it wasn't too bad. Managed to get the reference thing worked out with just a little difficulty, kinda proud of that one.) I'm sure that once I become more comfortable with editing that i'll move on to article creating. but that is later, for now I'll just stick to making the corrections that annoy me the most, grammar and readability. that should satisfy my minor OCD...lol.Doctor X (talk) 18:03, 13 August 2014 (PDT)

Okay, "Craig" Wink.gif; yes I saw the edits and good work there, but a little hint: if you hit the "Show preview" button (Next to the "Save page" button), it will allow you to see how the edit will look if you save it, and you can then edit more but save it once you've made all the changes on the page that you want. This way the history section of each page stays a little tidier. Either way will get the job done, but the preview way is there so you can make sure it looks right. Also, if you're wondering where to start, there's always the list of pages tagged with "cleanup needed", which could always use some grammatical work. It's up to you what you want to do, so just pitch in where you can. And yes, a little OCD always helps Cheesy.gif -BobTheZombie (talk) 19:21, 13 August 2014 (PDT)


question about changing the case in parentheticals

Article Titles are generally capitalized, including disambig like (Battle Armor) being either Battle Armour mounted or built to be mounted on the same. why did you change (Battle Armor) to (battle armor) on the heavy machine gun?--Cameron (talk) 23:01, 17 August 2014 (PDT)