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=Current=
 
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==Arms of Thor Logo==
 
Hello. Are there any canon sources that specify the logo for the [[Arms of Thor]] unit? The artwork referenced in ''[[Maximum Tech]]'' is in the section for the [[Command Console]] only. Also, the color image technically is fan art, being reconstructed and colorized by a member of the BattleTech forums. --[[User:Cache|Cache]] ([[User talk:Cache|talk]]) 19:31, 13 January 2019 (EST)
 
:None other to my knowledge. I did indeed take that from this person In think.--[[User:Pserratv|Pserratv]] ([[User talk:Pserratv|talk]]) 06:45, 14 January 2019 (EST)
 
:: Sorry to butt in (and late), but ''fan-created'' art is <strike>official</strike> acceptable, if it is a quality improvement upon the available source image. For example, if the source image is only b&w, and someone can re-create it with indicated colors, then it is allowed. However, if no logo has ever been depicted--nor described--then this would not apply.--[[User:Revanche|Revanche]] <sup>([[User_talk:Revanche|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Revanche|contribs]])</sup> 17:09, 4 February 2019 (EST)
 
:::Umm, Rev? That's not how I remember it. Back in 2010 we specifically created the [[Template:ApocryphalImage]] for this purpose. And to quote [[Policy:Images]]: "''Please note that any edit or modification to an image technically constitutes fan work, requiring attribution to the last editor (usually in addition to the original artist) and eliminating the image's canon status.''" [[User:Frabby|Frabby]] ([[User talk:Frabby|talk]]) 04:29, 5 February 2019 (EST)
 
  
:::: I mis-stated when I used the term "official", so I've changed it to "acceptable", though I suspect that does not pass your muster. And I'm glad you quoted that specific line from the policy (''"Please note that any edit or modification to an image technically constitutes fan work, requiring attribution to the last editor (usually in addition to the original artist) and eliminating the image's canon status."'').
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==Special Pilot Abilities==
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Perhaps it would be best to limit references for SPA's to what is in the core rulebooks rather than individual cards?--[[User:Cache|Cache]] ([[User talk:Cache|talk]]) 11:26, 21 February 2022 (EST)
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:Hi Cache. I have nothing else to refer, that is why I'm using the cards... I'm so advanced now that I'm going to keep with them...--[[User:Pserratv|Pserratv]] ([[User talk:Pserratv|talk]]) 11:28, 21 February 2022 (EST)
  
:::: Let's move this to the [[Policy Talk:Images]], as I have something rather germane to this issue. Thanks. --[[User:Revanche|Revanche]] <sup>([[User_talk:Revanche|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Revanche|contribs]])</sup> 10:53, 6 February 2019 (EST)
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==Apocryphal Image Category==
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It is a little late now, but the <nowiki>{{ApocryphalImage}}</nowiki> tag automatically adds the image to that category. There is no need to manually add the category to each image.--[[User:Cache|Cache]] ([[User talk:Cache|talk]]) 08:52, 14 March 2022 (EDT)
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:Well, there will be more, so if that is the case, less work for me ;)--[[User:Pserratv|Pserratv]] ([[User talk:Pserratv|talk]]) 11:26, 14 March 2022 (EDT)
  
==HexPack rollbacks==
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==Tim Nelson==
Hi Pere, I rolled back your edits to the Hex Pack pages because they were... wrong. The Classic BT Introduction Box Set you linked is a 2007 product that has nothing to do with the 25 Anniversary edition or the subsequent non-anniversary edition of the boxed set that I meant (with, I'm told, much better quality miniatures) and for which we curiously seem to be missing an article. That's something I need to look into. [[User:Frabby|Frabby]] ([[User talk:Frabby|talk]]) 12:41, 4 February 2019 (EST)
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You created the page [[Tim Nelson]] a few years ago, and last night it wound up in [[Special:LonelyPages]]. Do you recall anything he might have been an illustrator for?  A Google Search gives me nothing, but [[Jim Nelson]] did draw a lot of stuff. I am wondering if you might have mistaken a J for a T in a signature?--[[User:Talvin|Talvin]] ([[User talk:Talvin|talk]]) 09:22, 12 April 2022 (EDT)
:I thought they were all the same.--[[User:Pserratv|Pserratv]] ([[User talk:Pserratv|talk]]) 12:49, 4 February 2019 (EST)
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:It is clearly a mistake from my end. Page should be deleted.--[[User:Pserratv|Pserratv]] ([[User talk:Pserratv|talk]]) 08:58, 14 April 2022 (EDT)
::There are two box sets that came out eighteen months or so apart; one has the product number 3500A (I have 2 copies) and one has the product number 3500B (I have 1 copy). The edition with the number 3500A has the Hammerhands/Battleaxe on the cover (I can never remember which is which, but it's the early FedSuns lookalike for the Warhammer) while the one with the product number 3500B has an Atlas on the cover. To make life interesting, from memory they're both entitled "BattleTech Introductory Box Set", although I need to check that when I get home, but the one with the serial number 3500A has a tagline on the bottom right hand corner of the box front describing it as "The 25th Anniversary of the Game of Armoured Combat". Most of the contents of the two boxes are the same, but there are two exceptions. Firstly, each box contains two premium, high-quality minis that come in multiple parts; one set had (I think) a Loki and a Thor in it, or a Thor and a Summoner, but basically 2 Clan OmniMechs; the other had a Mad Cat and... I think an Atlas? I'm not sure what I did with my premium minis, but I don't think they're still in the boxes. Each also contained some single-piece sculpted minis, and those in the later 3500B box set are of noticeably higher quality. My time's all over the place at the moment, but if someone's going to clarify and expand the box set articles and wants pictures or more precise content details, let me know and I'll see what I can do. [[User:BrokenMnemonic|BrokenMnemonic]] ([[User talk:BrokenMnemonic|talk]]) 10:04, 5 February 2019 (EST)
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::Tagged!--[[User:Talvin|Talvin]] ([[User talk:Talvin|talk]]) 09:01, 14 April 2022 (EDT)
  
== Trent ==
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== Spanish edition - BattleTech: Refuerzos ==
  
Cheers for fixing the image on the [[Trent (Character)|Trent]] article and pre-empting that I was going to ask you about it today.
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Hello Pserratv.  In [[List of BattleTech Products in Spanish#BattleTech: Refuerzos]] the description appears to be a copy of the AeroTech entry.  I suspect that this may be a case of copy and paste where the title (and perhaps other info) was not updated.  When you have an opportunity, could you please check and update that entry?  --[[User:Dude RB|Dude RB]] ([[User talk:Dude RB|talk]]) 09:01, 16 April 2022 (EDT)
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:I'll have to review yes.--[[User:Pserratv|Pserratv]] ([[User talk:Pserratv|talk]]) 03:40, 19 April 2022 (EDT)
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::Thanks. --[[User:Dude RB|Dude RB]] ([[User talk:Dude RB|talk]]) 18:14, 19 April 2022 (EDT)
  
Have an award [[File:AP 1bol.jpg|All Purpose Award, 2nd ribbon]]
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== Marpesia Stables Image ==
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If you want the 50px resolution for this image, you will have to create a 210px image with transparent background surrounding it. It's the only way I've found to get around the issue.--[[User:Cache|Cache]] ([[User talk:Cache|talk]]) 12:07, 2 May 2022 (EDT)
  
I have also updated your awards board.--[[User:Dmon|Dmon]] ([[User talk:Dmon|talk]]) 05:14, 15 February 2019 (EST)
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==Drake Allin==
:Ja, ja, ja!! Thanks :)--[[User:Pserratv|Pserratv]] ([[User talk:Pserratv|talk]]) 05:28, 15 February 2019 (EST)
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Hey, I've embarked on a project to update the various Bloodname pages and I'm currently working on the Ghost Bears -- there's a character named Star Captain Drake Allin who has both a citation referring to page 40 of Invading Clans and a linked page that gives the same citation. However, I've reviewed Invading Clans and can find no such reference. Can you by any chance point me in the direction of where I might find this character so the citations can be updated? -[[User:Hugo Bossk|Hugo Bossk]] ([[User talk:Hugo Bossk|talk]]) 18:51, 25 May 2022 (EDT)
::Actually.. I have nominated you for the ''Founder's Outstanding Member of the Year Award'' in the [[BattleTechWiki:2018 Founder's Awards]].--[[User:Dmon|Dmon]] ([[User talk:Dmon|talk]]) 13:51, 16 February 2019 (EST)
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:Discussion here: [[Talk:Drake Allin]]--[[User:Talvin|Talvin]] ([[User talk:Talvin|talk]]) 19:08, 25 May 2022 (EDT)
:::Thanks again :)--[[User:Pserratv|Pserratv]] ([[User talk:Pserratv|talk]]) 15:01, 16 February 2019 (EST)
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::I've answered there, no good news.--[[User:Pserratv|Pserratv]] ([[User talk:Pserratv|talk]]) 06:30, 30 May 2022 (EDT)
  
== ! ==
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== Cool find ==
  
You had me worried for a second making articles with names like [[Star Stuff]] :-p--[[User:Dmon|Dmon]] ([[User talk:Dmon|talk]]) 12:42, 20 February 2019 (EST)
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I found a page where someone is talking about an old catalog for Diseños Orbitales.  My Spanish is...comprendo un poquito.  I thought you might be interested. https://roldelos90.blogspot.com/2016/09/un-catalogo-de-disenos-orbitales-1992.html
: It is a real ship :)... it is true its name is... different--[[User:Pserratv|Pserratv]] ([[User talk:Pserratv|talk]]) 12:48, 20 February 2019 (EST)
 
  
== Officer tables and fluff==
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--[[User:Talvin|Talvin]] ([[User talk:Talvin|talk]]) 13:05, 1 June 2022 (EDT)
 
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:And on that note, I have made [[Diseños Orbitales]].--[[User:Talvin|Talvin]] ([[User talk:Talvin|talk]]) 13:39, 1 June 2022 (EDT)
Good work on the officer tables, much quicker than I ever go! But I just want to say that one of the reasons I am slower is I take advantage of the change to [[Policy:Notability]]. Don't be afraid of stub character articles rather than using the notes section, part of the reason I supported the change is so that we do not lose those bits of fluff ;-)--[[User:Dmon|Dmon]] ([[User talk:Dmon|talk]]) 04:02, 27 February 2019 (EST)
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::Thanks! It is interesting to see it. I had one (not this one) long time ago, but died from age...--[[User:Pserratv|Pserratv]] ([[User talk:Pserratv|talk]]) 04:14, 2 June 2022 (EDT)
:Good point. I'll remember that for next ones. Skipping them is though what makes this editing quick. I prefer to work in phases. First tables, then officers, and so on :). In the end it is a way of working.--[[User:Pserratv|Pserratv]] ([[User talk:Pserratv|talk]]) 04:04, 27 February 2019 (EST)
 
::I thought that might be the case so just a friendly nudge to make sure. Some of the stuff like the CO of [[Devil's Brigade]] is certainly worthy of an article even without the policg change.--[[User:Dmon|Dmon]] ([[User talk:Dmon|talk]]) 04:11, 27 February 2019 (EST)
 
:::Are you going make this a template?  I don't think i could have made these wonderful officer tables by hand like you can! -- [[User:Wrangler|Wrangler]] ([[User talk:Wrangler|talk]]) 20:23, 5 March 2019 (EST)
 
:Hey, I'm wondering why you're using tables for formatting this at all. The reason I ask is that they look great on my laptop, but when I visit them with my phone and tablet table-based layout tricks like this tend to break and look terrible. Not trying to badmouth your work; I'm honestly curious what advantage you see to using the tables. Thanks!--[[User:Mbear|Mbear]]<sup>([[User_talk:Mbear|talk]])</sup> 22:07, 5 March 2019 (EST)
 
::Hi Mbear, the first thing... I did not check on mobile or tablet based systems. I liked how Dmon ordered them and decided to help him formatting the officers list. It makes though easier to look at them.--[[User:Pserratv|Pserratv]] ([[User talk:Pserratv|talk]]) 03:16, 6 March 2019 (EST)
 
::Hi Wrangler, the tables... this is copy past ability :) Once you have the table once, it is easy to copy past it at amend it for every command.--[[User:Pserratv|Pserratv]] ([[User talk:Pserratv|talk]]) 03:16, 6 March 2019 (EST)
 
:::Indeed wrangler, I made the first table by hand but afterwards I have just copy/pasted. Mbear, I created them to try and solve the mess of what I call "wikisms" where consecutive authors and sources have resulted in something that is correct but makes no sense in terms of reader flow. I edited a bunch that said "Between 3025 and 3050 Colonel xxxx commanded the unit, he was still in command in 3067, and also 3085" the table is purposefully short (3 sections) in an effort to control the breakage... as such they look ok on my Samsung Note 8, but that is quite a big phone so maybe further feedback is required.--[[User:Dmon|Dmon]] ([[User talk:Dmon|talk]]) 03:34, 6 March 2019 (EST)
 
::::OK. Those are all logical reasons. I think we can do better though. By setting a couple CSS classes on the table it should be possible to make a table that presents information without breaking and forcing me to scroll horizontally. (I'm thinking of the vast tables on the [[Awards]] page, which make me cringe every time I visit the page.) And it may be possible to create a template that can be used to create the table. And add the caption "Commanding officer of Unit Name" without requiring a four-column colspan. I'd also like to remove the hardcoded 'width=200px' because that seems to be what's causing most of my problems. Let me do some more research and I'll try to get an example up sometime later this week.--[[User:Mbear|Mbear]]<sup>([[User_talk:Mbear|talk]])</sup> 07:01, 6 March 2019 (EST)
 
:::::Then I'll stop changing tables and wait untill a new version is made "official" to continue on this.--[[User:Pserratv|Pserratv]] ([[User talk:Pserratv|talk]]) 07:10, 6 March 2019 (EST)
 
::::::I am more than happy to have the code improved Mbear :-)--[[User:Dmon|Dmon]] ([[User talk:Dmon|talk]]) 07:29, 6 March 2019 (EST)
 
 
 
==Sub-unit Categories==
 
Hi Pere, I'm a bit non-plussed by some categories you created, such as [[:Category:Stormhammers Commands]], [[:Category:Bannson's Raiders Commands]], etc.. Should the sub-units that you categorize not simply be listed in the main article? After all, it's only ever going to be a handful of units in the first place, the number isn't going to increase, and since those factions weren't proper states, I don't think we need (or should) treat them like the militaries of established major states. [[User:Frabby|Frabby]] ([[User talk:Frabby|talk]]) 05:21, 7 March 2019 (EST)
 
:My reasoning to create those categories is that all military units belong to some command category... except for a few commands which finally ended in a "proper" big unit, I feel they need to be categorized. We already have small categories from "dead" states like the proto-estates of the past. Maybe they should be inside the Republic of the Sphere as factions, but I would then point them to Republic but keep their faction categorization, I feel it gives something. Which is your feeling?--[[User:Pserratv|Pserratv]] ([[User talk:Pserratv|talk]]) 05:24, 7 March 2019 (EST)
 
::I do not understand: Why would all military units need to be categorized into a command category?
 
::The core of the problem, I think, is the fact that personally, I want to keep the number of categories as low as possible, and that Sarna doesn't (yet) have a proper policy in place about how to organize military units.
 
::In my opinion, since the BT universe militaries are essentially organized as regiments, regiment articles should be at the core and they should be categorized into their respective state military (only). Most regiments don't even have another command that they belong to - there are only few actual brigades, and most of these, like the Davion Brigade of Guards, are not field commands but rather purely administrative bodies.
 
::In any case, since there is a rigid structure you can always put the next higher organisational level (if any) into the article, and by the same token name the individual battalions or companies of a given regiment in the regiment article unless they're so notable that they have their own articles (in which case you provide a link in the regiment/battalion article). With such a rigid structure, I guess I simply don't see a need for categories. [[User:Frabby|Frabby]] ([[User talk:Frabby|talk]]) 06:10, 7 March 2019 (EST)
 
:::I have no problem deleting the categories. I've linked them already as parent unit the Stormhammers, Steel Wolves... DO we make this official?--[[User:Pserratv|Pserratv]] ([[User talk:Pserratv|talk]]) 08:50, 7 March 2019 (EST)
 
::::Not sure. I've been thinking about rewriting [[Policy:Notability]] for some time, and wanted to include organisational issues like this one. But I'm just one of Sarna's many contributors, and as such would like to build a broader consensus first on wether or not (and how) we should adress this issue. [[User:Frabby|Frabby]] ([[User talk:Frabby|talk]]) 10:15, 7 March 2019 (EST)
 
:::::Let's raise it there then, and see how we tackle this. Factions are mainly because of the Dark Ages miniature pack... not many more.--[[User:Pserratv|Pserratv]] ([[User talk:Pserratv|talk]]) 10:22, 7 March 2019 (EST)
 
::::::A small handful of stuff like the [[Eridani Guards]], [[Knights Defensor]] and of course the "Dark Age" units has always been a bit of an issue under our current system. This realy annoys me because the current system works pretty damn well for most other types of command. It is one of the things we have managed to hammer out over time into a really effective system.--[[User:Dmon|Dmon]] ([[User talk:Dmon|talk]]) 21:05, 7 March 2019 (EST)
 
 
 
==Image Sources and Template==
 
Hello, you and I seem to be uploading the most images lately. I was wondering if you could make sure you add the image's source when you do: [[:Policy:Images#Images_must_name_their_source|Policy:Images.]] I am adding [[Template:Image_summary]] to all images that I can, and any help is appreciated. If you add the template and the information is unknown, leave the line blank. The image will show up in the [[http://www.sarna.net/wiki/:Category:Missing_copyright_information Images Missing Copyright Information]] category and someone else may be able to add the info. If there is no template on the image, it does not appear in the category, and can only be found by chance.  Thank you! --[[User:Cache|Cache]] ([[User talk:Cache|talk]]) 18:38, 7 March 2019 (EST)
 
:I'll try... most of the images I've added as of late are from collectible cards. Who can I put as reference? Topps?--[[User:Pserratv|Pserratv]] ([[User talk:Pserratv|talk]]) 12:39, 8 March 2019 (EST)
 
::The simplest would be [[BattleTech Trading Card Game]] plus the card set (Limited, Unlimited, Counterstrike, etc.) for a source.--[[User:Cache|Cache]] ([[User talk:Cache|talk]]) 14:45, 8 March 2019 (EST)
 
:::Point taken. While I'm reviewing the images and other topics I'll complete it.--[[User:Pserratv|Pserratv]] ([[User talk:Pserratv|talk]]) 15:43, 8 March 2019 (EST)
 
::::A good number of CCG images already exist on Sarna (picture only, not the whole card). Please make sure there are no double uploads. [[User:Frabby|Frabby]] ([[User talk:Frabby|talk]]) 05:50, 9 March 2019 (EST)
 
:::::I'm replacing images most of the times. That created a possible issue with other pages using the same image as the card that I'm trying to amend too.--[[User:Pserratv|Pserratv]] ([[User talk:Pserratv|talk]]) 10:41, 9 March 2019 (EST)
 
::::::Thank you for adding the template. It really helps to avoid duplication of effort. I added a little to the cards that you have edited recently, to include the ''Works by Artist'' category and to get correct style with italics. If you wish to use those as a template for the future, all you would have to do is change the Mech name, artist name (twice), name of the card set, and (if appropriate) change BattleMech to OmniMech. example: [[:File:Albatross_ALB-3U_CCG_Mercenaries.jpg]]  I usually work out of a text file and copy/paste to the page--fast and easy.--[[User:Cache|Cache]] ([[User talk:Cache|talk]]) 13:23, 10 March 2019 (EDT)
 
:::::::I'll use copy & paste, is my favourite tool for this kind of mass uploads. Thanks for creating a "complete" sample of the template.--[[User:Pserratv|Pserratv]] ([[User talk:Pserratv|talk]]) 03:23, 11 March 2019 (EDT)
 
 
 
== Aris Memorial Yards ==
 
 
 
Hey PS, I am pretty sure the actual name of the shipyards is ''Aris Memorial Yards'' so if anything all the redirects should point there unless there is a reason for them to point to Necromo Shipyrds?--[[User:Dmon|Dmon]] ([[User talk:Dmon|talk]]) 11:51, 12 March 2019 (EDT)
 
:I'll arrange it... the original page was the Necromo Shipyards... and I'm lazy today it seems :)--[[User:Pserratv|Pserratv]] ([[User talk:Pserratv|talk]]) 11:53, 12 March 2019 (EDT)
 
::Haha, I am yet to see you do what I would term lazy my friend :-p--[[User:Dmon|Dmon]] ([[User talk:Dmon|talk]]) 12:03, 12 March 2019 (EDT)
 
:::I'm like everybody, but thanks! :)--[[User:Pserratv|Pserratv]] ([[User talk:Pserratv|talk]]) 14:12, 12 March 2019 (EDT)
 
 
 
== Restored edit ==
 
  
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==Karsten/Bennis Productions==
 
Hey PS,
 
Hey PS,
How come you restored the duplicated information in the [[William Baranov]] article? The sentence immediately before that one states that they killed eachother.. The only information it adds is that a warehouse exploded for unknown reasons... And anything with the "unknown reasons" is pretty much useless information.--[[User:Dmon|Dmon]] ([[User talk:Dmon|talk]]) 12:48, 27 March 2019 (EDT)
 
:I corrected the spelling, just that. Feel free to delete. Fredericmora never says were the information cames from, making his edits hard to sort out.--[[User:Pserratv|Pserratv]] ([[User talk:Pserratv|talk]]) 12:49, 27 March 2019 (EDT)
 
::Ah ok you must of had an edit window open at the same time as me. No worries, sorry for having a grumble. The Fredericomora thing frustrates me.--[[User:Dmon|Dmon]] ([[User talk:Dmon|talk]]) 12:54, 27 March 2019 (EDT)
 
:::Most probably. I took a step on my review of the Kurita line to play again with the card game and saw his edits... I tried to contact him in the spanish forum, no luck.--[[User:Pserratv|Pserratv]] ([[User talk:Pserratv|talk]]) 12:56, 27 March 2019 (EDT)
 
::::The CCG is one of the few BT things I know absolutely nothing about, it seems you are the first person to touch half those articles in about 10 years!--[[User:Dmon|Dmon]] ([[User talk:Dmon|talk]]) 13:03, 27 March 2019 (EDT)
 
:::::Exactly like me... no knowledge at all. I'm following card descriptions and a site where people uploads cards to trade... once that is done I'll try to see how to follow with it.--[[User:Pserratv|Pserratv]] ([[User talk:Pserratv|talk]]) 13:05, 27 March 2019 (EDT)
 
 
==Snord's Irregulars DropShips==
 
Hi Pere, good job about checking the roster in the sourcebook and finding the ''[[Diamondstar]]'' and ''[[Majestic Defiance]]''! I had simply taken the unit's 3055 roster from the ''Mercenary's Handbook 3055'' and assumed the five "captured" Clan vessels there were the same ones taken from the Dark Wing Cluster in 3051. I've updated all seven DropShip articles. [[User:Frabby|Frabby]] ([[User talk:Frabby|talk]]) 04:38, 11 May 2019 (EDT)
 
:I was rereading the book yesterday and found that out :). I saw you were amending the articles and just made a small name change on the cluster.--[[User:Pserratv|Pserratv]] ([[User talk:Pserratv|talk]]) 05:05, 11 May 2019 (EDT)
 
 
== Baby arrived earlier ==
 
 
I've been a bit disconected as of late. Nearly seven weeks ago my first little girl came to this world in her 29th week.
 
Though it has been hard, now, nearing week 36 everything is ok.
 
 
I'll keep posting, but maybe at stranger hours (I'm taking the 1am shift to feed her).--[[User:Pserratv|Pserratv]] ([[User talk:Pserratv|talk]]) 09:55, 24 May 2019 (EDT)
 
:Congratulations on the little one Pserratv, and commiserations on your sleepless nights!--[[User:Dmon|Dmon]] ([[User talk:Dmon|talk]]) 20:45, 25 May 2019 (EDT)
 
::Today has been one of those nights... I love my girl, but my sleep cycle doesn't ;) --[[User:Pserratv|Pserratv]] ([[User talk:Pserratv|talk]]) 06:34, 26 May 2019 (EDT)
 
:::Congratz by the way, good luck with the sleep! [[User:Wrangler|Wrangler]] ([[User talk:Wrangler|talk]]) 20:42, 16 June 2019 (EDT)
 
  
==Battletech CCG==
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Just so you know I changed Karsten/Bennis Productions to [[Karsten-Bennis Productions]] as the wiki code wants to create a sub page from anything with a slash in the title.--[[User:Dmon|Dmon]] ([[User talk:Dmon|talk]]) 10:39, 7 June 2022 (EDT)
Hi you left a message regarding the Collector Card Game for Battletech. The Art is uploaded here.  [[:Category:CCG_CommandersEdition]] and [[:Category:CCG]]. Not sure if that what your looking for. [[User:Wrangler|Wrangler]] ([[User talk:Wrangler|talk]]) 20:42, 16 June 2019 (EDT)
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::OOO, didn't know. I'll review the links as most probably there are some of them incorrect.--[[User:Pserratv|Pserratv]] ([[User talk:Pserratv|talk]]) 10:52, 7 June 2022 (EDT)
:I'm trying to find the card screenshots, full card screenshot, no just the image itself.--[[User:Pserratv|Pserratv]] ([[User talk:Pserratv|talk]]) 07:07, 17 June 2019 (EDT)
 
  
==Reference Errors==
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== Template: Format Link ==
Pserratv, you recently added to the [[Black Widow Company]] and [[3rd Davion Guards]] articles. There are several reference errors in the additions and I am unable to determine what the correct references should be for them. Can you please make the corrections? Thank you. --[[User:Cache|Cache]] ([[User talk:Cache|talk]]) 12:20, 29 June 2019 (EDT)
 
:The Black Widow book say 3rd Guards, and the only 3rd Guards unit in House Davion is the 3rd Davion Guards. Nevertheless I've asked in the forum.--[[User:Pserratv|Pserratv]] ([[User talk:Pserratv|talk]]) 14:07, 29 June 2019 (EDT)
 
::I'm not talking about the validity of the information you added. If you look at the references section at the bottom of both articles ([[Black_Widow_Company#References]] and [[3rd_Davion_Guards#Reference]]), there are three different errors, shown in bold red, that popped up with your changes. <br>
 
:::"no text was provided for refs named '''TBW'''"<br>
 
:::"no text was provided for refs named '''BW'''"<br>
 
:::"no text was provided for refs named '''WD'''"<br>
 
::You did not correctly enter the references, and I do not know what they are in order to correct them.--[[User:Cache|Cache]] ([[User talk:Cache|talk]]) 15:02, 29 June 2019 (EDT)
 
:::Amended. Once I unerstood I remembered where the original links came from. And now the reference issue is solved.--[[User:Pserratv|Pserratv]] ([[User talk:Pserratv|talk]]) 16:25, 29 June 2019 (EDT)
 
  
== Higher quality pic ==
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Seeing your past edits on fixing redirects, I want to let you know of this "new" Template we have to make linking of sections in pages easier. As well it can work as a redirect link as well.[[Template:Format_link]] --[[User:Deadfire|Deadfire]] ([[User talk:Deadfire|talk]]) 17:02, 20 June 2022 (EDT)
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:Good to know. Thanks.--[[User:Pserratv|Pserratv]] ([[User talk:Pserratv|talk]]) 08:19, 23 June 2022 (EDT)
  
Hey PS,
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== Lider ==
Hope you don't mind but I uploaded a higher quality version of the [[:File:JustinAllard portrait.png]] image straight from the game files.--[[User:Dmon|Dmon]] ([[User talk:Dmon|talk]]) 14:40, 4 July 2019 (EDT)
 
:Not at all. How did you get it? I used F12 inside the game, is there any other way?--[[User:Pserratv|Pserratv]] ([[User talk:Pserratv|talk]]) 17:41, 4 July 2019 (EDT)
 
Inside the steam files there are character portraits. C:\Steam\steamapps\common\BATTLETECH\BattleTech_Data\StreamingAssets\sprites\Portraits, try that in your windows explorer bar.--[[User:Dmon|Dmon]] ([[User talk:Dmon|talk]]) 18:12, 4 July 2019 (EDT)
 
::thanks for the tip!, though in windows 10 the starting place is a bit different, the rest is the same--[[User:Pserratv|Pserratv]] ([[User talk:Pserratv|talk]]) 19:19, 4 July 2019 (EDT)
 
  
== Vong ==
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Morning, Pserratv. Question of pure curiosity from me: why is the word "LiDER" backwards on [[:File:Warhammer_II_Stats.png|this image of the Warhammer II]]? All of the other words display properly.--[[User:Revanche|Revanche]] <sup>([[User_talk:Revanche|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Revanche|contribs]])</sup> 11:50, 21 June 2022 (EDT)
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:I've possessed this for ages and never saw that detail. Most probably it is an error preparing the pages... usually is written correctly.--[[User:Pserratv|Pserratv]] ([[User talk:Pserratv|talk]]) 08:18, 23 June 2022 (EDT)
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::I've been checking them all, and LiDER is the spell in all of them I see two options Revanche:
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::* They wanted to make it special.
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::* In spanisht the word is Líder, so maybe to make it more international they took out the accent but kept the letter in non-capital letters. I sincerely do not know how this works now, but when I studied it was not needed to put accents in capital letters, but a must with non-capital
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::Hope it helps--[[User:Pserratv|Pserratv]] ([[User talk:Pserratv|talk]]) 11:18, 11 October 2022 (EDT)
  
Hey Ps,
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== ER medium laser capitalization ==
Just looking at the [[Chong Vong]] article and want to ask, where did you get the spelling "Chong"? [[Vong's Grenadiers]] article uses the spelling " Choung", not near my books atm but it might be worth double checking.--[[User:Dmon|Dmon]] ([[User talk:Dmon|talk]]) 07:30, 12 July 2019 (EDT)
 
: I created it using the link to the Mech Commander 2: [[MechCommander 2/Characters]], no checks.--[[User:Pserratv|Pserratv]] ([[User talk:Pserratv|talk]]) 07:37, 12 July 2019 (EDT)
 
:: Might in fact be my mistake! Cheers man.--[[User:Dmon|Dmon]] ([[User talk:Dmon|talk]]) 07:42, 12 July 2019 (EDT)
 
::: I'll try to find some walkthrough on the game and see...--[[User:Pserratv|Pserratv]] ([[User talk:Pserratv|talk]]) 07:44, 12 July 2019 (EDT)
 
:::: just found one on Youtube and the name is spoken by characters but does not appear to be written in mission briefings etc. I think it may of originated in the [[Mech Commander 2/Search and Destroy-Bandit Convoy]] article. Corrected now though.--[[User:Dmon|Dmon]] ([[User talk:Dmon|talk]]) 07:56, 12 July 2019 (EDT)
 
::::: It was, I did the article starting from there. Thanks.--[[User:Pserratv|Pserratv]] ([[User talk:Pserratv|talk]]) 08:02, 12 July 2019 (EDT)
 
  
== Splitting units from themselves? ==
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Hello! Just wanted to say that, at least to my understanding, [[ER medium laser]]s aren't capitalized, just like [[medium laser]]s. If I am wrong, do feel free to jab me! -[[User:Breenland|Breenland]] ([[User talk:Breenland|talk]]) 15:40, 15 September 2022 (EDT)
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:Sincerely speaking, there has been so much movement on this topic that I'm totally lost...--[[User:Pserratv|Pserratv]] ([[User talk:Pserratv|talk]]) 10:21, 22 September 2022 (EDT)
  
Hey Ps,
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== BattleCorps page numbers ==
  
Why did you split the SLDF units from themselves? I can understand the ambiguity of the Clan unit (but I do disagree with the split) but the [[Eridani Light Horse]] you are actively going against the units own fluff buy splitting the article into SLDF and Merc. The whole point of the ELH are they are the same unit and carry on all the SLDF traditions.--[[User:Dmon|Dmon]] ([[User talk:Dmon|talk]]) 16:47, 18 July 2019 (EDT)
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Hi Pserratv
:Sorry, what do you mean by split. the differentiation on the officers table between SLDF and Mercenary time? It was maybe arbitrary, but was my idea on how to split them, by who are they serving.--[[User:Pserratv|Pserratv]] ([[User talk:Pserratv|talk]]) 16:59, 18 July 2019 (EDT)
 
::Sorry, I just double checked and thought you had taken off category tags from the 21st Striker, turns out I was looking at the 19th, and that unit never had them anyway. "smacks self in head" I need to stop doing overtime in work, It is really effecting my perfirnance.--[[User:Dmon|Dmon]] ([[User talk:Dmon|talk]]) 17:19, 18 July 2019 (EDT)
 
:::I know exactly what you mean :).--[[User:Pserratv|Pserratv]] ([[User talk:Pserratv|talk]]) 02:45, 19 July 2019 (EDT)
 
  
== Star League Defense Force Commands question ==
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I see you've added page numbers to some of the BattleCorps citations. Can you tell me where these come from? [[User:Madness Divine|Madness Divine]] ([[User talk:Madness Divine|talk]]) 13:40, 24 October 2022 (EDT)
Pserratv, I've answered your question on my talk page. (At least I think I have.)--[[User:Mbear|Mbear]]<sup>([[User_talk:Mbear|talk]])</sup> 09:08, 19 July 2019 (EDT)
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:There was a recap PDF with all the articles base on these list:
:I know i'm late to the response party, here my answer. Sorry, i've not had alot to do on the sarna lately so i haven't been checking in as often.  As for your question, it's difficult to say. Category: Military commands were setup handle all formation sizes.  It was designed to do it by size of the formation.  I'm not sure if the top admins would want additional categories by size. You could try make a such as Category: SLDF Sub-Commands.  Aside from the SLDF, there few to none that are listed as massively as SLDF. Only ones i would think of off the top of my head that get's into brigades and divisions (SLDF style) would be House Steiner from listings in Field Reports 2765 series.  It wasn't mentioned again in the Succession Wars books them operating as divisions. -- [[User:Wrangler|Wrangler]] ([[User talk:Wrangler|talk]]) 23:09, 3 August 2019 (EDT)
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* [[List of Arts and Leisure articles]]
::I was thinking on reviewing "The Liberation of Terra" (volumen 1 I think), where it explains how SLDF commands are organized, anb maybe use that to organize the sub-categories. And once done and with all units correctly assigned, I feel that general consensus is to put in root Regiments and Divisions. But first I want to clean-up it as much as possible.--[[User:Pserratv|Pserratv]] ([[User talk:Pserratv|talk]]) 03:45, 5 August 2019 (EDT)
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* [[List of General INN articles]]
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* [[List of Isle of the Blessed articles]]
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* [[List of MilSpecs articles]]
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* [[List of ScandalVids articles]]
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* [[List of Solaris Broadcasting Co. articles]]
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I'm using this.--[[User:Pserratv|Pserratv]] ([[User talk:Pserratv|talk]]) 05:54, 25 October 2022 (EDT)
  
== Misleading Categories==
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:: I didn't run across a recap PDF last time I went through the site's downloads section. Do you have a URL for it? [[User:Madness Divine|Madness Divine]] ([[User talk:Madness Divine|talk]]) 11:29, 25 October 2022 (EDT)
Hi Pserratv, perhaps you can help me. I know that the 2nd Bolan Guards were never an Federated Commonwealth unit. Only the Eleventh FedCom RCT was an FedCom unit until the split of the realm in 3062. There are many other units which make a silmilar transition. How can we chose the right category for the corresponding article entry? [[neuling]]
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:::I think they were shared to me by [[User:HF22]] himself.--[[User:Pserratv|Pserratv]] ([[User talk:Pserratv|talk]]) 12:33, 25 October 2022 (EDT)
:The criteria I'm applying is: If the unit existed prior to 3039 it is Lyran or Davion. If it exist between 3039 and 3057 (more or less they year it is broken the realm), it is Lyran or Davion + F-C, and if the unit is past 3057 it is Lyran or Davion. Now, units with a lot of history like the Davion Brigada of Guards regiments will be both Davion + F-C as they served under both "realms" in different years. Now, if a unit changes names because something, we have redirects from older names to new names. In this cases I make the analisis for both the final name and all the redirects. It can be that one redirect is Lyran, another is Lyran and F-C, there is one that is F-C and the last one is only Lyran. I'm going case by case.
 
  
Just made a good example: Winfield's Brigade
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:::: Thanks. I think that might be a limited-access document I read about, so I won't ask him for a copy. [[User:Madness Divine|Madness Divine]] ([[User talk:Madness Divine|talk]]) 14:32, 26 October 2022 (EDT)
1st Winfield Guard --> Lyran
 
2nd Winfield Guard --> Lyran
 
Winfield's Brigade --> Lyran + F-C
 
Winfield's Regiment --> Mercenary
 
  
--[[User:Pserratv|Pserratv]] ([[User talk:Pserratv|talk]]) 08:15, 20 July 2019 (EDT)
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== technical category ==
 
 
::I find an example for my question. 4th Alliance Guards and also 12th FedCom RCT are mentioned in the Federated Commonwealth catergory have you an explaination for that circumstances? [[Neuling]]
 
:::It is an overlook/mistake made by me. The 4th Alliance Guards are a Lyran Command while the 12th FedCom RCT are a pure F-C command. Also note that at this time I have not yer finished the Davion commands.--[[User:Pserratv|Pserratv]] ([[User talk:Pserratv|talk]]) 10:47, 20 July 2019 (EDT)
 
::::I've completed my review. I expect there can be some mistakes. Anybody can amend them directly.--[[User:Pserratv|Pserratv]] ([[User talk:Pserratv|talk]]) 11:07, 20 July 2019 (EDT)
 
:::::What do you think to add categories only to the redirection links ,when need, and then you have only the corresponding article in your category. I will show you what I mean. look at the Skye March Militia. The brigade exist only during the Federated Commonwealth era and after the split units of the command were integrated in the Skye Province Militia. [[neuling]]
 
::::::In this case Skye March Militia should be F-C while the Skye Province Militia is Lyran. And then, per command as they are F-C during the corresponding years, for me those unit belongs to both cases. That is of course an opinion. It is easier when the redirects are clearly of different affiliation, but I feel we should be able to find a consensus on this.--[[User:Pserratv|Pserratv]] ([[User talk:Pserratv|talk]]) 13:08, 20 July 2019 (EDT)
 
:::::::This one is amended, but definitively, the March Militias of the F-C need to be reviewed as there are errors quite for sure.--[[User:Pserratv|Pserratv]] ([[User talk:Pserratv|talk]]) 18:31, 20 July 2019 (EDT)
 
::::::::I think I have a good solution for the category issue. We can create sub categories and delete the categories for the main category like Lyran Command and can use Lyran Command - Arcturs Guards. With the creation of the sub category page we add an link to the main category. The SLDF category is a good example how can it be better organized. What is your opinion about my thoughts? ~[[neuling]]
 
:::::::::I'm not thar sure that is wise. All the Lyran Command has like less than 100 entries in the page + Militia, Training, Navy and Support Categories. This makes them manegable in a single page. So more sub-categories might not be needed and we should really analyze if it is worth of. SLDF on the other hand had more than 800 (now less). Which makes grouping interesting. Though the idea is interesting, I'm not sure it is worth all this effort.--[[User:Pserratv|Pserratv]] ([[User talk:Pserratv|talk]]) 08:11, 21 July 2019 (EDT)
 
::::::::::How can we seperate the planetary militas from the march militia. My suggestion was to add the corresponding category to the matching articles.Then we had a subcategory Lyran Command - planetary militia and also Lyran Command - march militia. [[neuling]]
 
:::::::::::Oooo, I didn't understand it that way. That sounds interesting. We will have to do it also for Lyran, Davion and the F-C, but seems a valid option.--[[User:Pserratv|Pserratv]] ([[User talk:Pserratv|talk]]) 08:22, 21 July 2019 (EDT)
 
 
 
== Absolute  Machine! ==
 
 
 
PS, you absolute machine! You have powered past 25,000 edits, almost 4,800 of them in the past month! I confess that I admire your work ethic to the point that I feel like a total slacker around here in comparison!
 
 
 
Have an award for 25k, [[File:EC3 1c.jpg|Edit Count (25,000)]], and one for the huge impact you have had on the wiki. [[File:SubAdd.jpg|Substantial Addition Award, 1st ribbon]]. (I will add them to yiur board for you too).--[[User:Dmon|Dmon]] ([[User talk:Dmon|talk]]) 05:10, 29 July 2019 (EDT)
 
:Thanks! I'll try to do my best. The "team" is excellent, and that helps. In a way the wiki is a "well oiled" machine.--[[User:Pserratv|Pserratv]] ([[User talk:Pserratv|talk]]) 06:34, 29 July 2019 (EDT)
 
 
 
== Carter's Chevaliers  ==
 
 
 
Pserratv - Read your article, [[Carter's Chevaliers]] - its strong overall, but some of the details don't seem to be supported by the novel, ''Wolf Pack''. I wanted to ask if there was another source you were using? [[User:ClanWolverine101|ClanWolverine101]] ([[User talk:ClanWolverine101|talk]]) 09:19, 9 August 2019 (EDT)
 
:Hi ClanWolverine101, I built this article basically cross-referencing existing data + a quick review of the novel.--[[User:Pserratv|Pserratv]] ([[User talk:Pserratv|talk]]) 14:07, 9 August 2019 (EDT)
 
::Okay - i might make some edits later for clarity, but i'll be sure to carefully reference anything i do. [[User:ClanWolverine101|ClanWolverine101]] ([[User talk:ClanWolverine101|talk]]) 15:59, 9 August 2019 (EDT)
 
:::No problem.--[[User:Pserratv|Pserratv]] ([[User talk:Pserratv|talk]]) 17:58, 9 August 2019 (EDT)
 
 
 
== Arc-Royal Defense Cordon ==
 
  
 
Hey PS,
 
Hey PS,
  
Can't help but notice that you have gone utterly category mad lately and you are starting to venture into some areas I am a bit unsure about. The ARDC is one of them, I am not sure if it should have its own categories as such, was it ever declared an independent nation?--[[User:Dmon|Dmon]] ([[User talk:Dmon|talk]]) 06:02, 22 August 2019 (EDT)
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Deadfire has asked me have a word with you about you creating the "technical category for administration purposes" stuff. I am not sure what they do, but Deadfire seems pretty unhappy about them so could you hold off on creating more and possibly consider having a conversation with DF about what needs doing on the wiki regarding such stuff.--[[User:Dmon|Dmon]] ([[User talk:Dmon|talk]]) 12:41, 8 January 2023 (EST)
:Not to my knowledge, but the category if you see is related to a Faction, and Factions do not require states behind them, like "Democracy Now!". So the category groups a sort of semi-independent region/faction that existed within the Lyran Alliance and Lyran Commonwealth behind the wanning days (and not that waning) of the Clan Invasion. After completing the ramp up, I'll try to explain in the core page of Factions the rationale behind the changes.--[[User:Pserratv|Pserratv]] ([[User talk:Pserratv|talk]]) 06:05, 22 August 2019 (EDT)
 
::I think I suggested on a talk page recently, maybe even to you that I think the time is drawing near where we need to seperate and define the difference between faction and nation because to me the ARDC, Democracy Now! and Black Dragon Society etc are all sub-factions within the larger faction of the nation state if that makes sense.--[[User:Dmon|Dmon]] ([[User talk:Dmon|talk]]) 06:09, 22 August 2019 (EDT)
 
:::Maybe this is the line between Factions and Organizations: Factions are Countries/States while organizations are social movements; sample: Lyran Alliance vs Brotherhood of Circinatus. A thing that needs its own thinking. Now I'm basically aligning the treatment of Factions: if they are there keep there unless they are individual planets and if they have their own "sub-categories", create a new one to group them. Once this is aligned, maybe I'll review against Organizations. Now I'm with Periphery and next is Minor Factions... and I don't like minor.--[[User:Pserratv|Pserratv]] ([[User talk:Pserratv|talk]]) 06:13, 22 August 2019 (EDT)
 
 
 
== Characters ==
 
 
 
Way back on 9 January 2018 I gave you an Award for how much I appreciate your work on adding minor characters, I am giving you a second ribbon to that award for exactly the same reason.
 
[[File:RAA_1bol.jpg|Random Act of Appreciation Award, 2nd ribbon]]
 
Thank you Ps for making the character categories look like there is more than just characters from the great houses on the wiki.--[[User:Dmon|Dmon]] ([[User talk:Dmon|talk]]) 18:22, 23 August 2019 (EDT)
 
 
 
== Category:Heat-Inducing Weapons ==
 
 
 
Pretty sure you have just re-created one of the categories that was purposefully deleted. Did you mean to do that?--[[User:Dmon|Dmon]] ([[User talk:Dmon|talk]]) 18:14, 24 August 2019 (EDT)
 
:I did in on purpose, trying to remember if there were more weapons that increased heat... but there aren't, it is ammo, so we could delete the category and the link in the flammer entry, no problem.--[[User:Pserratv|Pserratv]] ([[User talk:Pserratv|talk]]) 18:35, 24 August 2019 (EDT)
 
::There is also the Heavy Flammer... maybe we can save it. But when we delete categories we should also delete the link from the article, otherwise it is listed as a wanted category :).--[[User:Pserratv|Pserratv]] ([[User talk:Pserratv|talk]]) 04:58, 25 August 2019 (EDT)
 
:::The weapons categories are such a mess that I think we should cut them right back to absolute basics, Ballistic, Energy, Missile and an Equipment one and then start over.--[[User:Dmon|Dmon]] ([[User talk:Dmon|talk]]) 05:10, 25 August 2019 (EDT)
 
::::It would not be that bad idea to start them from scratch, and with some "plan". Do as you feel.--[[User:Pserratv|Pserratv]] ([[User talk:Pserratv|talk]]) 06:56, 25 August 2019 (EDT)
 
 
 
== Reference Errors ==
 
Last July I finished the task of correcting over 500 [https://www.sarna.net/wiki/Category:Pages_with_reference_errors pages with reference errors], leaving only a handful of user pages. Today there are over 50 pages with errors, and that doesn't include those that I have corrected in recent months. When editing articles, please take an extra moment to preview that article and then look at the references section to ensure that there are no errors. "Cite errors" stand out in bold red. They are generally caused by copying and pasting information across multiple pages, or deleting information that contains a reference definition. It is much quicker for you to fix your own errors than it is for someone else to discover, research, and correct them. This is only a wiki if correct citations are used. Otherwise it is simply collection of fan-fiction.
 
  
https://www.sarna.net/wiki/Help:References
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:no worries, i'll do. But all those pages are appearing as top wanted pages when they are nothing.--[[User:Pserratv|Pserratv]] ([[User talk:Pserratv|talk]]) 16:33, 8 January 2023 (EST)
  
Thank you.--[[User:Cache|Cache]] ([[User talk:Cache|talk]]) 17:11, 2 September 2019 (EDT)
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== Spanish translations ==
  
:Sorry, some of my late edits creating new characters have deleted a link here and there. From some time I've been more careful and I think the number nearly dropped to zero. I've amended all the ones that made sense and discovered an interesting page to check this kind of issues.--[[User:Pserratv|Pserratv]] ([[User talk:Pserratv|talk]]) 18:54, 2 September 2019 (EDT)
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Hi, Pserratv.
  
==Tyco toys==
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I found some epub translations on Anna's Archive that I think were a fan project. ''Fin de partida'', ''Punto de conflagracion'', ''Patriotas y tiranos'', and ''Tormentas del destino''; ''Silencio en el paraíso'' and ''Verdades y sombras'' by Martin Delrio; and ''La forja de un héroe'', ''Operacion audacia'', and ''Rugido de honor'' by Blaine Lee Pardoe. Have you heard anything about these? [[User:Madness Divine|Madness Divine]] ([[User talk:Madness Divine|talk]]) 21:39, 25 March 2023 (EDT)
Good work on that product line! But I have to ask, did you photograph them yourself? The image attribution doesn't actually say where the image files come from. [[User:Frabby|Frabby]] ([[User talk:Frabby|talk]]) 16:31, 16 September 2019 (EDT)
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:Yes, they are the spanish translations of these books. I do not have them (indeed in spanihs I basically have both trilogies and a couple more.--[[User:Pserratv|Pserratv]] ([[User talk:Pserratv|talk]]) 11:49, 30 March 2023 (EDT)
: They come from here: [http://tyco-battletech.de/ WELCOME TO THE TYCO BATTLETECH ARCHIVE!]--[[User:Pserratv|Pserratv]] ([[User talk:Pserratv|talk]]) 04:11, 17 September 2019 (EDT)
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:: Do you know whether they're official products or fan translations? [[User:Madness Divine|Madness Divine]] ([[User talk:Madness Divine|talk]]) 18:50, 30 March 2023 (EDT)
:: That's a problem. Please don't just take images from the web and upload them to Sarna. Someone, somewhere presumably has a copyright. Ownership of these images is unclear - but that doesn't mean that they're in the public domain. The fan website even notes at the bottom that (copy/paste) "ALL IMAGES PRESENTED ARETHE PROPERTY OF THEIR RESPECTIVE OWNERS". The Fair Use doctrin may apply; but then again, maybe not. We simply don't know. And we don't want Tyco or anyone else to start legal troubles for Sarna. [[User:Frabby|Frabby]] ([[User talk:Frabby|talk]]) 05:48, 17 September 2019 (EDT)
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:::Hi, in this link [[List of BattleTech Print Novels in Spanish]] you can find the ones I identified as original. There are some from an Anna, but the rest. I mean there are original translations of them. I simply don't have them though.--[[User:Pserratv|Pserratv]] ([[User talk:Pserratv|talk]]) 05:27, 31 March 2023 (EDT)
::: So for example it would be OK if I found them in auctions from ebay as they are public selling?--[[User:Pserratv|Pserratv]] ([[User talk:Pserratv|talk]]) 05:50, 17 September 2019 (EDT)
 
::: By the way, I stopped uploading them but created the possible image, but I've mostly completed the work, so what do I do with the ones I've already uploaded?--[[User:Pserratv|Pserratv]] ([[User talk:Pserratv|talk]]) 05:52, 17 September 2019 (EDT)
 
::: And by the way (2), the pictures come from the web's owner collection, so he did them himself... not sure if it is enough.--[[User:Pserratv|Pserratv]] ([[User talk:Pserratv|talk]]) 06:10, 17 September 2019 (EDT)
 
::::I've myself copied product photos from online auctions in the past, because to the best of my knowledge they fall under Fair Use and are not normally protected by copyright. That said, keep in mind that basically *everything* on the internet has someone's rights attached to it. See also our [[Policy:Copyrights]].
 
::::That said, if the web owner made those photos himself and gave you permission to copy them to Sarna then we're good. In that case, please mark the image files accordingly with the "used with permission" tag and cite the homepage as the source. [[User:Frabby|Frabby]] ([[User talk:Frabby|talk]]) 09:14, 17 September 2019 (EDT)
 
:::::I'll contact him to get specific rights for that and I'll wait for his answer. Depending on it, I'll take action.--[[User:Pserratv|Pserratv]] ([[User talk:Pserratv|talk]]) 10:14, 17 September 2019 (EDT)
 
  
== Second Succession War ==
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== Disambig pages ==
Hi Pserratv,<br>
 
I noticed you're adding details from the Second Succession War sourcebook, which is a good thing, but in the bibliography for the articles, you need to pipe Second Succession War as "Second Succession War (Sourcebook)|Second Succession War", otherwise the bibliography link takes them to the Sarna article on the war, not the sourcebook. (The same is true with the First Succession War sourcebook...) [[User:BrokenMnemonic|BrokenMnemonic]] ([[User talk:BrokenMnemonic|talk]]) 04:05, 18 September 2019 (EDT)
 
:I saw your change and applied it to the other warship I had added. Thanks!!--[[User:Pserratv|Pserratv]] ([[User talk:Pserratv|talk]]) 04:06, 18 September 2019 (EDT)
 
  
==Jade Falcon DropShips==
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Pserratv, the new disambig MoS is to have them on the pages without (disambiguation) in the title. You can confirm with Dmon if you want. --[[User:Csdavis715|Csdavis715]] ([[User talk:Csdavis715|talk]]) 08:03, 12 July 2023 (EDT)
Hi Pere, you just added a number of Jade Falcon DropShip articles starting with the ''[[Jade Cadge]]'' - but unfortunately you forgot references and bibliograpgy entries so the new articles cannor be checked. [[User:Frabby|Frabby]] ([[User talk:Frabby|talk]]) 16:15, 26 September 2019 (EDT)
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:Sorry, didn't know that. Are you also then cross-reversing this, because it is quite a work to be done--[[User:Pserratv|Pserratv]] ([[User talk:Pserratv|talk]]) 08:06, 12 July 2023 (EDT)
:Sorted that for you.--[[User:Dmon|Dmon]] ([[User talk:Dmon|talk]]) 17:04, 26 September 2019 (EDT)
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::No worries. Yea, it's going to take a bit of time going through them all. Maybe months. But undo'ing the ones from the last few minutes I can take care of. --[[User:Csdavis715|Csdavis715]] ([[User talk:Csdavis715|talk]]) 08:08, 12 July 2023 (EDT)
::Thanks guys! I needed to make sure "Jade Cadge" wasn't a typo. [[User:Frabby|Frabby]] ([[User talk:Frabby|talk]]) 01:12, 27 September 2019 (EDT)
 
:::Dont worry, Cadge is a proper falconry term. It is the name for a special frame that the birds sit on so you can move them around.--[[User:Dmon|Dmon]] ([[User talk:Dmon|talk]]) 02:10, 27 September 2019 (EDT)
 
::::Didn't known that! :) You beat me in amending that point.--[[User:Pserratv|Pserratv]] ([[User talk:Pserratv|talk]]) 03:14, 27 September 2019 (EDT)
 
  
== Engines ==
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==Helping out with Family Trees==
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Hey Ps, just looking at your new [[Dinah Marik]] article. It is good that these last characters from the family trees get added, but could you do me a favor and when doing characters with relatives, could you be sure to add citations to the family members in the infobox as well. Even if it is all the same reference it saves me having to go check next time I am doing family tree work!--[[User:Dmon|Dmon]] ([[User talk:Dmon|talk]]) 11:51, 11 September 2023 (EDT)
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:Will do that. It is a copy of ond of the brothers, who does not have it. There will be a loooot of with that! 🤣--[[User:Pserratv|Pserratv]] ([[User talk:Pserratv|talk]]) 15:33, 11 September 2023 (EDT)
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::Sorry for slow reply, I had not noticed that you had replied. And yes, sadly there will be a LOT of copy/paste the same reference but it is better than trying to put it into the family tree itself. (you have seen how horrible the code is for them even without references). So when somebody clicks on a character in a tree, we need them to see all the siblings etc are referenced, just so people can feel confident the tree is correct.
  
Yo PS,
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::Also, reversed your edit adding in the Devalis surname to [[Carolina Devalis]]'s mother as we don't know she had the same surname. (She likely did as this is BattleTech).--[[User:Dmon|Dmon]] ([[User talk:Dmon|talk]]) 07:35, 15 September 2023 (EDT)
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:::Where I live marriage does not carry a change in surnames, but in Battletech universe it seems it is always the "saxon" way, that was the point, but OK with your change.--[[User:Pserratv|Pserratv]] ([[User talk:Pserratv|talk]]) 07:42, 15 September 2023 (EDT)
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::::I actually agree you are likely correct, but we don't actually know for sure.--[[User:Dmon|Dmon]] ([[User talk:Dmon|talk]]) 08:31, 15 September 2023 (EDT)
  
Just a heads up that it might be worth holding off on the Engines for a bit. If you look, the system that has been used to organise them runs contrary to pretty much all other equipment on the wiki.--[[User:Dmon|Dmon]] ([[User talk:Dmon|talk]]) 07:56, 29 September 2019 (EDT)
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==Armorcast BattleTech==
:OK, I'll stop on that. I only did because it is in the wanted pages :).--[[User:Pserratv|Pserratv]] ([[User talk:Pserratv|talk]]) 15:12, 29 September 2019 (EDT)
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This is the website of the former owner of Armorcast. The page is a copy of Armorcast's BattleTech online catalog. [http://timdp.members.sonic.net/battletech/ Armorcast BattleTech] --[[User:Cache|Cache]] ([[User talk:Cache|talk]]) 09:37, 7 November 2023 (EST)
::No worries man, you can do it if you want but in reality it needs a massive overhaul of the kind that I would not wish upon you because it is going to involve a couple of hundred redirects from what I can tell :-p.--[[User:Dmon|Dmon]] ([[User talk:Dmon|talk]]) 16:12, 29 September 2019 (EDT)
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:I think it is work having here on sarna just in case.--[[User:Pserratv|Pserratv]] ([[User talk:Pserratv|talk]]) 09:38, 7 November 2023 (EST)
:::It does not worry me. It is just time and sometimes fun. I'll do slowly what I feel might be needed.--[[User:Pserratv|Pserratv]] ([[User talk:Pserratv|talk]]) 16:13, 29 September 2019 (EDT)
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::I'm sorry for not being clear. I was sharing the website for your reference. That is the most accurate information on the kits, as well as better quality pictures. (I'm just not in a position to contribute more at the moment.)--[[User:Cache|Cache]] ([[User talk:Cache|talk]]) 09:43, 7 November 2023 (EST)
::::Yo PS, I see that you are going ahead and are taking on the Engines as a project. First point of call then is that I saw you redirecting stuff like the [[Ford 350 XL]] to [[Ford (Fusion Engines)]]. This goes against all other components on the wiki and realistically needs to be brought back inline with everything else not continued. So the redirect should be to a Ford section of a 350 XL Engine article.--[[User:Dmon|Dmon]] ([[User talk:Dmon|talk]]) 16:08, 2 October 2019 (EDT)
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:::OK, thanks. I'll review and update based on your copy of the page!!--[[User:Pserratv|Pserratv]] ([[User talk:Pserratv|talk]]) 11:54, 7 November 2023 (EST)
:::::I did them because they are in the missing pages. Now the question is on how we really tackle this. There are several brands that do engines, sensors, weapons... In this case, Ford I understand is [[Ford Military Limited]], if we do this we should reddo the page itself?, I'm not sure on how to tackle this huge change then. Now this pages are most centered on their actual full products and not that much on the components they build for others.<br>
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::::I was reviewing this again and realized that an article already had been created for Armorcast's BattleTech miniatures. It might be best to merge your recent article into the old: [[Miniatures - Armorcast]]--[[User:Cache|Cache]] ([[User talk:Cache|talk]]) 16:42, 10 November 2023 (EST)
:::::That said, it would be good to have an idea/template to go forward, as it is one of the wiki points we are missing most information.--[[User:Pserratv|Pserratv]] ([[User talk:Pserratv|talk]]) 04:13, 3 October 2019 (EDT)
 
:Looking at the Ford Military Limited article I do not think we will need to really do anything to it, so it is just a case of flipping the component pages themselves. I am in work at the moment but if you want I will show you what I mean when I get the chance.--[[User:Dmon|Dmon]] ([[User talk:Dmon|talk]]) 05:02, 3 October 2019 (EDT)
 
::Yes please!--[[User:Pserratv|Pserratv]] ([[User talk:Pserratv|talk]]) 05:06, 3 October 2019 (EDT)
 
  
Hey PS sorry I have taken a few days to get back to you. I wanted to do the work on my PC rather than my tablet. Now I have a very basic template set I can explain what I am thinking.
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== Query ==
  
The existing weapons articles use a system like this: [[Light AC/2]] type, pretty much just game stats and where they are manufactured.
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Hi Pseterrav, I'm Fredericmora. Can we talk? There is something I would to ask you. F
[[Autocannon/2|New system]] I have slowly been rolling out adds individual brand models like the [[Mydron D]].
 
  
However the current system for engines has the brand [[Nissan 275 XL]] redirect to [[Nissan (Fusion Engines)]] but [[275 XL]] or [[275 Extralight]] as a type does not even exist. Only Engines and Jump Jets seem to work this way. So I am proposing to [[User:Dmon#Project Engines|switch the system]] into a [[200 Extralight Fusion Engine|unified system]] that matched the way we handle other components.--[[User:Dmon|Dmon]] ([[User talk:Dmon|talk]]) 21:09, 8 October 2019 (EDT)
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==Sir Roger articles==
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Hi Pserratv, in speaking with other senior admins on Discord, we determined/confirmed that [[Sir Roger]] is not canon and because of that, we will be moving the 4 mech pages from its publication into the main article as a subsection. I will do my best to make sure nothing is omitted. [[User:Csdavis715|Csdavis715]] ([[User talk:Csdavis715|talk]]) 05:06, 4 January 2024 (EST)
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: No worries. Tell which will be the new place and I'll try to review this.--[[User:Pserratv|Pserratv]] ([[User talk:Pserratv|talk]]) 17:19, 4 January 2024 (EST)
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:: Ok, take a look and let me know what you think. It was pretty much a copy/paste. [[User:Csdavis715|Csdavis715]] ([[User talk:Csdavis715|talk]]) 07:42, 6 January 2024 (EST)
  
: So:
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==Tina Rosche and Evan Kaiple==
* Brand (Engine) pages should disapear. It's content should be in the main company page, and then we need to create one article per fusion engine: 200, 200 XL, 200 Light, 200 XXL, and there explain where this specific type is being used, as this is how the weapons are being done. Can I make a suggestion: In XL and XXL we also need to have Inner Sphere brands and "Clan" Brands (mainly because their rules are different. Do you agree with this last comment?--[[User:Pserratv|Pserratv]] ([[User talk:Pserratv|talk]]) 03:39, 9 October 2019 (EDT)
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Hi again! Could I ask you to take a look at your [[Tina Rosche]] article? It looks like almost the whole main body was copied from the Andrew Giggins page and doesn't really pertain to Rosche, aside from her presumably being with her unit during those events. I think most of it can be removed.
  
::Yes the Brand (Engine) should disapear. A lot of work for sadly something most people will not even notice. I am hoping to find the time to develop a new infobox that should be able to incorporate stats for both IS and Clan in a similar way to how we do Weapons, Things are just a little busy on my end right now so not entierly sure when I will get to it.--[[User:Dmon|Dmon]] ([[User talk:Dmon|talk]]) 07:36, 9 October 2019 (EDT)
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Second, the [[Evan Kaiple]] page is very long and has 2 challenges I'm hoping you can fix more easily than me: 1) it needs some subheaders to organize the history into sections and make it easier to read, and 2) it needs to be in the past tense. Thanks! [[User:Csdavis715|Csdavis715]] ([[User talk:Csdavis715|talk]]) 08:08, 6 January 2024 (EST)
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: Done except the past tense... not sure what you want.--[[User:Pserratv|Pserratv]] ([[User talk:Pserratv|talk]]) 11:17, 9 January 2024 (EST)
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:: (Apologies for jumping in...) Preterite tense or imperfect tense. Much of the article is written as though it is currently happening. It should be written as though it happened in the past. For example, "The unit discovers that the next mission was in Skye." should be, "The unit discovered that the next mission was on Skye."--[[User:Cache|Cache]] ([[User talk:Cache|talk]]) 12:35, 9 January 2024 (EST)
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:::Got it. I'll try to review it, but not this week.--[[User:Pserratv|Pserratv]] ([[User talk:Pserratv|talk]]) 04:20, 10 January 2024 (EST)
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::I cleaned up the first part of the Kaiple article up to the section on Skye. Putting in the subheaders helped a lot. I'll check back in next week and do a little more if you haven't had tmie to look at it by then. Also thanks for cleaning up the Rosche page. [[User:Csdavis715|Csdavis715]] ([[User talk:Csdavis715|talk]]) 20:57, 15 January 2024 (EST)
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:I did until "Shinonoi", but no more. If you can cleanse the rest, better.--[[User:Pserratv|Pserratv]] ([[User talk:Pserratv|talk]]) 11:54, 17 January 2024 (EST)
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::All done now, thanks for your help. It's a lot for one character, isn't it?! [[User:Csdavis715|Csdavis715]] ([[User talk:Csdavis715|talk]]) 12:29, 30 January 2024 (EST)
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:::Maybe too much, but those diaries cover a lot of detailed information which maybe I wrote too much.--[[User:Pserratv|Pserratv]] ([[User talk:Pserratv|talk]]) 13:40, 30 January 2024 (EST)
  
:::So something like this for the 195 engine:
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==George Adlet==
* New: [[195 Fusion Engine]]
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Hi Pserratv, could I ask you to take a look at [[George Adlet]]? I just did a touchup of the page but couldn't figure out the 3 parts I marked. Thanks [[User:Csdavis715|Csdavis715]] ([[User talk:Csdavis715|talk]]) 00:28, 25 February 2024 (EST)
* Change in [[Edasich Motors (Fusion Engines)]]
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:I've reviewed them and madeone amendment while settign details and pages of the points marked. Hope this helps.--[[User:Pserratv|Pserratv]] ([[User talk:Pserratv|talk]]) 17:42, 3 March 2024 (EST)
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::So, I wasn't really asking for citations there, or I would have used the <nowiki>{{cn}}</nowiki> tag. I figured the one in the article lead was a typo, but for the other two I was looking for clarification on the meaning of what you wrote. I don't have that book and you didn't link to anything that could explain what a Greenlander, Inuit, or Dankova is. I think it would be helpful to any reader if all information we write can be explained or accessed without requiring a book. [[User:Csdavis715|Csdavis715]] ([[User talk:Csdavis715|talk]]) 01:23, 4 March 2024 (EST)
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:::Got it now and I'm going to amend that, using wiki in most cases as they are existing terms.--[[User:Pserratv|Pserratv]] ([[User talk:Pserratv|talk]]) 08:53, 4 March 2024 (EST)
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::::Now that I know what you meant, I was able to smooth it out. Thanks for your time and help improving this. [[User:Csdavis715|Csdavis715]] ([[User talk:Csdavis715|talk]]) 09:47, 4 March 2024 (EST)
  
::::Perfect!--[[User:Dmon|Dmon]] ([[User talk:Dmon|talk]]) 09:28, 9 October 2019 (EDT)
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== MWDA content ==
:::::Just one thing and in advance of the template for IS/Clan, maybe we should add a column saying which technology is built to.--[[User:Pserratv|Pserratv]] ([[User talk:Pserratv|talk]]) 10:58, 9 October 2019 (EDT)
 
::::::Late to the party (as usual), and only working from my stupid smartphone which is a pita to work with. I saw Pere's deletion tags on brands - and I disagree. I think it is worth keeping them as middle ground articles between the large manufacturer articles and the individual component articles. E.g. Brand (Fusion Engine) should list all individual fusion engines associated with a given brand (as links to their articles); there are usually several. Also include a link to the manufacturer, and any generic info we may have on this particular brand of fusion engines. At the very least, redirect to manufacturer. [[User:Frabby|Frabby]] ([[User talk:Frabby|talk]]) 15:19, 12 October 2019 (EDT)
 
:::::::This can be done too, no problem to do that. Just one thing. Not all the engines have a company officially building them.--[[User:Pserratv|Pserratv]] ([[User talk:Pserratv|talk]]) 07:16, 13 October 2019 (EDT)
 
  
== Hector's Hooligans ==
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As I know that you aren't on Discord, I'm unable to forward you in the direction of the resource Google drive we are using for MWDA content. However I can let you know that we have found the lance lists that were on the dossiers are not in the [[MechWarrior: Dark Age - Dossiers and Pilot Cards]] resource. Additionally we have found small differences between all the different fan-created compendiums and other resources. Finally we are taking pictures of MWDA models and cards to place on the wiki, which will also assist in the creation of the character articles and many others. I am using [[MechWarrior: Dark Age - Miniatures]] for a staging area and doing modifications to the display of such data.
Hi Pserratv,<br>
 
  
I originally meant to just fix the reference in [[Hector's Hooligans]] (It was citing the Rondel entry in TRO:3150, which seemed odd as there wasn't a Rondel mentioned in there) but I ended up making more changes than I planned, and I thought I should mention why in case you thought I was marking your homework or something. The major points were that while it's strongly implied that the ''Leopard CV'' was destroyed, the wording was a bit ambiguous, and I wasn't comfortable with the statement that the Hooligans had kept the two ''Behemoth'' DropShips because while they captured them, having been hired to raid the Brigadier Corporation plant, it's likely that those two ''Behemoths'' and their cargo went to their employer as loot from the raid - after all, if they didn't, then what did the Hooligans do to achieve their mission, once they'd achieved aerospace superiority? Anyway, I thought I should let you know so that you can point out where you think I went wrong {{ emoticon | ;) }} [[User:BrokenMnemonic|BrokenMnemonic]] ([[User talk:BrokenMnemonic|talk]]) 16:45, 5 October 2019 (EDT)
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Helping with all of this is [[User:Tumult&Travail]], who is going though these MWDA meta-sources and cleaning up a fair amount of pages that either took from them, or say that they did. I'll let him expand on that himself.
:Just went through your changes and they are very good. AS per the Rondel copy, it must be some copy & paste thing. It is from the "White Hammers" entry: RDL-01C RONDEL--[[User:Pserratv|Pserratv]] ([[User talk:Pserratv|talk]]) 17:46, 5 October 2019 (EDT)
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--[[User:Deadfire|Deadfire]] ([[User talk:Deadfire|talk]]) 14:21, 19 March 2024 (EDT)
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: I guess I've been called in here. I wouldn't say they're [[Canon#Meta-sources|meta-sources]] as Sarna uses the term - I don't believe anyone's been directly citing ''unofficial'' compilations and the like - but there are a number of pages around with poor citations of DA dossiers dating back to the early days of Sarna. Individual dossiers directly linked in bibliographies without any indication of what, if any, material was drawn from them, usually. I've been mostly on break from sweeping those up for the last month or so, mostly because I have a lot on my plate otherwise, so there's still [https://www.sarna.net/wiki/index.php?search=sarna.net+dossier+pdf&title=Special%3ASearch&profile=default&fulltext=1 too many pages] to go. The goal's to cite what hasn't been cited, update citations to [[MechWarrior: Dark Age - Dossiers and Pilot Cards|the most current publication of the dossiers]] when applicable (with the caveat that some fragments of info, like the lance lists, never made it into the most current publication), clear direct links to dossiers from bibliographies, and basically push things from 2008 standards to 2024 standards. --[[User:Tumult&#38;Travail|Tumult&#38;Travail]] ([[User talk:Tumult&#38;Travail|talk]]) 18:12, 19 March 2024 (EDT)
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::I'm using as reference the two documents that are being shared in the classic battletech pages. If there are new sources, you can contact me in mail e-mail address. it is easy... it is gmail with this user.--[[User:Pserratv|Pserratv]] ([[User talk:Pserratv|talk]]) 09:03, 21 March 2024 (EDT)
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:::Aye, it is just that easy. I shared the Google drive folder with your Gmail. That should provide you what all we are looking at with this.--[[User:Deadfire|Deadfire]] ([[User talk:Deadfire|talk]]) 12:28, 24 March 2024 (EDT)
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::::Thanks, downloading them :).--[[User:Pserratv|Pserratv]] ([[User talk:Pserratv|talk]]) 12:35, 24 March 2024 (EDT)

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Special Pilot Abilities[edit]

Perhaps it would be best to limit references for SPA's to what is in the core rulebooks rather than individual cards?--Cache (talk) 11:26, 21 February 2022 (EST)

Hi Cache. I have nothing else to refer, that is why I'm using the cards... I'm so advanced now that I'm going to keep with them...--Pserratv (talk) 11:28, 21 February 2022 (EST)

Apocryphal Image Category[edit]

It is a little late now, but the {{ApocryphalImage}} tag automatically adds the image to that category. There is no need to manually add the category to each image.--Cache (talk) 08:52, 14 March 2022 (EDT)

Well, there will be more, so if that is the case, less work for me ;)--Pserratv (talk) 11:26, 14 March 2022 (EDT)

Tim Nelson[edit]

You created the page Tim Nelson a few years ago, and last night it wound up in Special:LonelyPages. Do you recall anything he might have been an illustrator for? A Google Search gives me nothing, but Jim Nelson did draw a lot of stuff. I am wondering if you might have mistaken a J for a T in a signature?--Talvin (talk) 09:22, 12 April 2022 (EDT)

It is clearly a mistake from my end. Page should be deleted.--Pserratv (talk) 08:58, 14 April 2022 (EDT)
Tagged!--Talvin (talk) 09:01, 14 April 2022 (EDT)

Spanish edition - BattleTech: Refuerzos[edit]

Hello Pserratv. In List of BattleTech Products in Spanish#BattleTech: Refuerzos the description appears to be a copy of the AeroTech entry. I suspect that this may be a case of copy and paste where the title (and perhaps other info) was not updated. When you have an opportunity, could you please check and update that entry? --Dude RB (talk) 09:01, 16 April 2022 (EDT)

I'll have to review yes.--Pserratv (talk) 03:40, 19 April 2022 (EDT)
Thanks. --Dude RB (talk) 18:14, 19 April 2022 (EDT)

Marpesia Stables Image[edit]

If you want the 50px resolution for this image, you will have to create a 210px image with transparent background surrounding it. It's the only way I've found to get around the issue.--Cache (talk) 12:07, 2 May 2022 (EDT)

Drake Allin[edit]

Hey, I've embarked on a project to update the various Bloodname pages and I'm currently working on the Ghost Bears -- there's a character named Star Captain Drake Allin who has both a citation referring to page 40 of Invading Clans and a linked page that gives the same citation. However, I've reviewed Invading Clans and can find no such reference. Can you by any chance point me in the direction of where I might find this character so the citations can be updated? -Hugo Bossk (talk) 18:51, 25 May 2022 (EDT)

Discussion here: Talk:Drake Allin--Talvin (talk) 19:08, 25 May 2022 (EDT)
I've answered there, no good news.--Pserratv (talk) 06:30, 30 May 2022 (EDT)

Cool find[edit]

I found a page where someone is talking about an old catalog for Diseños Orbitales. My Spanish is...comprendo un poquito. I thought you might be interested. https://roldelos90.blogspot.com/2016/09/un-catalogo-de-disenos-orbitales-1992.html

--Talvin (talk) 13:05, 1 June 2022 (EDT)

And on that note, I have made Diseños Orbitales.--Talvin (talk) 13:39, 1 June 2022 (EDT)
Thanks! It is interesting to see it. I had one (not this one) long time ago, but died from age...--Pserratv (talk) 04:14, 2 June 2022 (EDT)

Karsten/Bennis Productions[edit]

Hey PS,

Just so you know I changed Karsten/Bennis Productions to Karsten-Bennis Productions as the wiki code wants to create a sub page from anything with a slash in the title.--Dmon (talk) 10:39, 7 June 2022 (EDT)

OOO, didn't know. I'll review the links as most probably there are some of them incorrect.--Pserratv (talk) 10:52, 7 June 2022 (EDT)

Template: Format Link[edit]

Seeing your past edits on fixing redirects, I want to let you know of this "new" Template we have to make linking of sections in pages easier. As well it can work as a redirect link as well.Template:Format_link --Deadfire (talk) 17:02, 20 June 2022 (EDT)

Good to know. Thanks.--Pserratv (talk) 08:19, 23 June 2022 (EDT)

Lider[edit]

Morning, Pserratv. Question of pure curiosity from me: why is the word "LiDER" backwards on this image of the Warhammer II? All of the other words display properly.--Revanche (talk|contribs) 11:50, 21 June 2022 (EDT)

I've possessed this for ages and never saw that detail. Most probably it is an error preparing the pages... usually is written correctly.--Pserratv (talk) 08:18, 23 June 2022 (EDT)
I've been checking them all, and LiDER is the spell in all of them I see two options Revanche:
  • They wanted to make it special.
  • In spanisht the word is Líder, so maybe to make it more international they took out the accent but kept the letter in non-capital letters. I sincerely do not know how this works now, but when I studied it was not needed to put accents in capital letters, but a must with non-capital
Hope it helps--Pserratv (talk) 11:18, 11 October 2022 (EDT)

ER medium laser capitalization[edit]

Hello! Just wanted to say that, at least to my understanding, ER medium lasers aren't capitalized, just like medium lasers. If I am wrong, do feel free to jab me! -Breenland (talk) 15:40, 15 September 2022 (EDT)

Sincerely speaking, there has been so much movement on this topic that I'm totally lost...--Pserratv (talk) 10:21, 22 September 2022 (EDT)

BattleCorps page numbers[edit]

Hi Pserratv

I see you've added page numbers to some of the BattleCorps citations. Can you tell me where these come from? Madness Divine (talk) 13:40, 24 October 2022 (EDT)

There was a recap PDF with all the articles base on these list:

I'm using this.--Pserratv (talk) 05:54, 25 October 2022 (EDT)

I didn't run across a recap PDF last time I went through the site's downloads section. Do you have a URL for it? Madness Divine (talk) 11:29, 25 October 2022 (EDT)
I think they were shared to me by User:HF22 himself.--Pserratv (talk) 12:33, 25 October 2022 (EDT)
Thanks. I think that might be a limited-access document I read about, so I won't ask him for a copy. Madness Divine (talk) 14:32, 26 October 2022 (EDT)

technical category[edit]

Hey PS,

Deadfire has asked me have a word with you about you creating the "technical category for administration purposes" stuff. I am not sure what they do, but Deadfire seems pretty unhappy about them so could you hold off on creating more and possibly consider having a conversation with DF about what needs doing on the wiki regarding such stuff.--Dmon (talk) 12:41, 8 January 2023 (EST)

no worries, i'll do. But all those pages are appearing as top wanted pages when they are nothing.--Pserratv (talk) 16:33, 8 January 2023 (EST)

Spanish translations[edit]

Hi, Pserratv.

I found some epub translations on Anna's Archive that I think were a fan project. Fin de partida, Punto de conflagracion, Patriotas y tiranos, and Tormentas del destino; Silencio en el paraíso and Verdades y sombras by Martin Delrio; and La forja de un héroe, Operacion audacia, and Rugido de honor by Blaine Lee Pardoe. Have you heard anything about these? Madness Divine (talk) 21:39, 25 March 2023 (EDT)

Yes, they are the spanish translations of these books. I do not have them (indeed in spanihs I basically have both trilogies and a couple more.--Pserratv (talk) 11:49, 30 March 2023 (EDT)
Do you know whether they're official products or fan translations? Madness Divine (talk) 18:50, 30 March 2023 (EDT)
Hi, in this link List of BattleTech Print Novels in Spanish you can find the ones I identified as original. There are some from an Anna, but the rest. I mean there are original translations of them. I simply don't have them though.--Pserratv (talk) 05:27, 31 March 2023 (EDT)

Disambig pages[edit]

Pserratv, the new disambig MoS is to have them on the pages without (disambiguation) in the title. You can confirm with Dmon if you want. --Csdavis715 (talk) 08:03, 12 July 2023 (EDT)

Sorry, didn't know that. Are you also then cross-reversing this, because it is quite a work to be done--Pserratv (talk) 08:06, 12 July 2023 (EDT)
No worries. Yea, it's going to take a bit of time going through them all. Maybe months. But undo'ing the ones from the last few minutes I can take care of. --Csdavis715 (talk) 08:08, 12 July 2023 (EDT)

Helping out with Family Trees[edit]

Hey Ps, just looking at your new Dinah Marik article. It is good that these last characters from the family trees get added, but could you do me a favor and when doing characters with relatives, could you be sure to add citations to the family members in the infobox as well. Even if it is all the same reference it saves me having to go check next time I am doing family tree work!--Dmon (talk) 11:51, 11 September 2023 (EDT)

Will do that. It is a copy of ond of the brothers, who does not have it. There will be a loooot of with that! 🤣--Pserratv (talk) 15:33, 11 September 2023 (EDT)
Sorry for slow reply, I had not noticed that you had replied. And yes, sadly there will be a LOT of copy/paste the same reference but it is better than trying to put it into the family tree itself. (you have seen how horrible the code is for them even without references). So when somebody clicks on a character in a tree, we need them to see all the siblings etc are referenced, just so people can feel confident the tree is correct.
Also, reversed your edit adding in the Devalis surname to Carolina Devalis's mother as we don't know she had the same surname. (She likely did as this is BattleTech).--Dmon (talk) 07:35, 15 September 2023 (EDT)
Where I live marriage does not carry a change in surnames, but in Battletech universe it seems it is always the "saxon" way, that was the point, but OK with your change.--Pserratv (talk) 07:42, 15 September 2023 (EDT)
I actually agree you are likely correct, but we don't actually know for sure.--Dmon (talk) 08:31, 15 September 2023 (EDT)

Armorcast BattleTech[edit]

This is the website of the former owner of Armorcast. The page is a copy of Armorcast's BattleTech online catalog. Armorcast BattleTech --Cache (talk) 09:37, 7 November 2023 (EST)

I think it is work having here on sarna just in case.--Pserratv (talk) 09:38, 7 November 2023 (EST)
I'm sorry for not being clear. I was sharing the website for your reference. That is the most accurate information on the kits, as well as better quality pictures. (I'm just not in a position to contribute more at the moment.)--Cache (talk) 09:43, 7 November 2023 (EST)
OK, thanks. I'll review and update based on your copy of the page!!--Pserratv (talk) 11:54, 7 November 2023 (EST)
I was reviewing this again and realized that an article already had been created for Armorcast's BattleTech miniatures. It might be best to merge your recent article into the old: Miniatures - Armorcast--Cache (talk) 16:42, 10 November 2023 (EST)

Query[edit]

Hi Pseterrav, I'm Fredericmora. Can we talk? There is something I would to ask you. F

Sir Roger articles[edit]

Hi Pserratv, in speaking with other senior admins on Discord, we determined/confirmed that Sir Roger is not canon and because of that, we will be moving the 4 mech pages from its publication into the main article as a subsection. I will do my best to make sure nothing is omitted. Csdavis715 (talk) 05:06, 4 January 2024 (EST)

No worries. Tell which will be the new place and I'll try to review this.--Pserratv (talk) 17:19, 4 January 2024 (EST)
Ok, take a look and let me know what you think. It was pretty much a copy/paste. Csdavis715 (talk) 07:42, 6 January 2024 (EST)

Tina Rosche and Evan Kaiple[edit]

Hi again! Could I ask you to take a look at your Tina Rosche article? It looks like almost the whole main body was copied from the Andrew Giggins page and doesn't really pertain to Rosche, aside from her presumably being with her unit during those events. I think most of it can be removed.

Second, the Evan Kaiple page is very long and has 2 challenges I'm hoping you can fix more easily than me: 1) it needs some subheaders to organize the history into sections and make it easier to read, and 2) it needs to be in the past tense. Thanks! Csdavis715 (talk) 08:08, 6 January 2024 (EST)

Done except the past tense... not sure what you want.--Pserratv (talk) 11:17, 9 January 2024 (EST)
(Apologies for jumping in...) Preterite tense or imperfect tense. Much of the article is written as though it is currently happening. It should be written as though it happened in the past. For example, "The unit discovers that the next mission was in Skye." should be, "The unit discovered that the next mission was on Skye."--Cache (talk) 12:35, 9 January 2024 (EST)
Got it. I'll try to review it, but not this week.--Pserratv (talk) 04:20, 10 January 2024 (EST)
I cleaned up the first part of the Kaiple article up to the section on Skye. Putting in the subheaders helped a lot. I'll check back in next week and do a little more if you haven't had tmie to look at it by then. Also thanks for cleaning up the Rosche page. Csdavis715 (talk) 20:57, 15 January 2024 (EST)
I did until "Shinonoi", but no more. If you can cleanse the rest, better.--Pserratv (talk) 11:54, 17 January 2024 (EST)
All done now, thanks for your help. It's a lot for one character, isn't it?! Csdavis715 (talk) 12:29, 30 January 2024 (EST)
Maybe too much, but those diaries cover a lot of detailed information which maybe I wrote too much.--Pserratv (talk) 13:40, 30 January 2024 (EST)

George Adlet[edit]

Hi Pserratv, could I ask you to take a look at George Adlet? I just did a touchup of the page but couldn't figure out the 3 parts I marked. Thanks Csdavis715 (talk) 00:28, 25 February 2024 (EST)

I've reviewed them and madeone amendment while settign details and pages of the points marked. Hope this helps.--Pserratv (talk) 17:42, 3 March 2024 (EST)
So, I wasn't really asking for citations there, or I would have used the {{cn}} tag. I figured the one in the article lead was a typo, but for the other two I was looking for clarification on the meaning of what you wrote. I don't have that book and you didn't link to anything that could explain what a Greenlander, Inuit, or Dankova is. I think it would be helpful to any reader if all information we write can be explained or accessed without requiring a book. Csdavis715 (talk) 01:23, 4 March 2024 (EST)
Got it now and I'm going to amend that, using wiki in most cases as they are existing terms.--Pserratv (talk) 08:53, 4 March 2024 (EST)
Now that I know what you meant, I was able to smooth it out. Thanks for your time and help improving this. Csdavis715 (talk) 09:47, 4 March 2024 (EST)

MWDA content[edit]

As I know that you aren't on Discord, I'm unable to forward you in the direction of the resource Google drive we are using for MWDA content. However I can let you know that we have found the lance lists that were on the dossiers are not in the MechWarrior: Dark Age - Dossiers and Pilot Cards resource. Additionally we have found small differences between all the different fan-created compendiums and other resources. Finally we are taking pictures of MWDA models and cards to place on the wiki, which will also assist in the creation of the character articles and many others. I am using MechWarrior: Dark Age - Miniatures for a staging area and doing modifications to the display of such data.

Helping with all of this is User:Tumult&Travail, who is going though these MWDA meta-sources and cleaning up a fair amount of pages that either took from them, or say that they did. I'll let him expand on that himself. --Deadfire (talk) 14:21, 19 March 2024 (EDT)

I guess I've been called in here. I wouldn't say they're meta-sources as Sarna uses the term - I don't believe anyone's been directly citing unofficial compilations and the like - but there are a number of pages around with poor citations of DA dossiers dating back to the early days of Sarna. Individual dossiers directly linked in bibliographies without any indication of what, if any, material was drawn from them, usually. I've been mostly on break from sweeping those up for the last month or so, mostly because I have a lot on my plate otherwise, so there's still too many pages to go. The goal's to cite what hasn't been cited, update citations to the most current publication of the dossiers when applicable (with the caveat that some fragments of info, like the lance lists, never made it into the most current publication), clear direct links to dossiers from bibliographies, and basically push things from 2008 standards to 2024 standards. --Tumult&Travail (talk) 18:12, 19 March 2024 (EDT)
I'm using as reference the two documents that are being shared in the classic battletech pages. If there are new sources, you can contact me in mail e-mail address. it is easy... it is gmail with this user.--Pserratv (talk) 09:03, 21 March 2024 (EDT)
Aye, it is just that easy. I shared the Google drive folder with your Gmail. That should provide you what all we are looking at with this.--Deadfire (talk) 12:28, 24 March 2024 (EDT)
Thanks, downloading them :).--Pserratv (talk) 12:35, 24 March 2024 (EDT)