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m (==Removing Cleanup Tags== Anticipating the question, answering proactively rather than in the heat of the moment.)
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I am anticipating that someone is going to ask me this question, so I am going to be proactive and answer it ahead of time: why am I pulling <nowiki>{{cleanup}}</nowiki> tags off articles?
 
I am anticipating that someone is going to ask me this question, so I am going to be proactive and answer it ahead of time: why am I pulling <nowiki>{{cleanup}}</nowiki> tags off articles?
  
I am choosing articles to look at more or less at random from [[Category:Cleanup]], that much is true, but my decision to pull the tag is ''not'' random. My process is as follows:
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I am choosing articles to look at more or less at random from [[:Category:Cleanup]], that much is true, but my decision to pull the tag is ''not'' random. My process is as follows:
 
# Look at the article.  Is it obvious on the face of it that it needs cleanup (as opposed to improved references, which is a more specific tag)?  Then I leave it, or else work on it, as time and ability permit.
 
# Look at the article.  Is it obvious on the face of it that it needs cleanup (as opposed to improved references, which is a more specific tag)?  Then I leave it, or else work on it, as time and ability permit.
 
# Look at the talk page for that article.  The tag template ''says'' "Please discuss this issue on the talk page" but, sadly, that is rarely done.  If I find discussion of cleanup there, I go as with #1 above.
 
# Look at the talk page for that article.  The tag template ''says'' "Please discuss this issue on the talk page" but, sadly, that is rarely done.  If I find discussion of cleanup there, I go as with #1 above.

Revision as of 18:19, 1 March 2022

Direction Appreciated Award:

For assisting Allterboyant regarding his question on how to spotlight a potential need for an edit (via Discord), as well as encouraging their confidence in editing:

Direction Appreciated Award, 1st ribbon

--Revanche (talk|contribs) 19:50, 12 February 2022 (EST)

Thank you! I will pin it next to my Master Punster Ribbon...left that here somewhere...or maybe I left it on Dieron.... Talvin (talk) 20:03, 12 February 2022 (EST)

Humor and Orphanages

At risk of over-inflating your ego, I wanted to give you a second award, one which I have never seen bestowed on anyone, the Good Humor award: Good Humor Award, 1st ribbon. I lol'd at your comment on that accidental twitter reference, and that vibe is always appreciated.

The other thing I wanted to mention was that I had noticed your Project Orphanage, and I thought that was a super cool idea... Is there any way I can help out? It would be great to give some love to those pages that are floating around in the deep periphery, so to speak. -BobTheZombie (talk) 11:22, 18 February 2022 (EST)

Thank you for both! Project Orphanage is a collaborative thing, and I have most of the pages marked "Permission to Edit" (I need to add that to all of them.) It is not an official project, so I keep it in my userspace, is all. I am *so* close to getting it down to where Special:LonelyPages will show all the orphans, not just the first thousand: when I started it ended in the E's, this morning it is in the early T's. As for how to help, plenty to choose from, this list is not exclusive:
  • Grab anything you see in the Miscellaneous section and work on paring them down. Some, like Battles and Planetary Governors, are just *tedious*, and sometimes you have to fix up the pages they need to be linked from. Some, like Deandra Lowe's many rides, I am at a loss. The Clan Loremasters would be quick and easy.
  • While User:Talvin/Project Orphanage/Wolf's Dragoons Roster is likely to just be with us for a long time (as of this writing, just over 1 in 39 pages on the Wiki are linked from that page, and I am not done yet), the spacecraft section up at the top is another one of those "tedious, but very achievable" goals for P:O.
  • This is a short list, but it is on its own page because it is very important (at least to me): User:Talvin/Project Orphanage/Orphaned Fiction We have some pages about fiction, primarily from the old Battlecorps site, that are not linked from anywhere. I know BrokenMnemonic has been trying to link some of them in, but I feel it is especially important that we put those forward, in hopes they eventually get reprinted and not forgotten.
  • Or look around and find something that interests you! Adopt an Orphan!
Talvin (talk) 11:35, 18 February 2022 (EST)

Removing Cleanup Tags

I am anticipating that someone is going to ask me this question, so I am going to be proactive and answer it ahead of time: why am I pulling {{cleanup}} tags off articles?

I am choosing articles to look at more or less at random from Category:Cleanup, that much is true, but my decision to pull the tag is not random. My process is as follows:

  1. Look at the article. Is it obvious on the face of it that it needs cleanup (as opposed to improved references, which is a more specific tag)? Then I leave it, or else work on it, as time and ability permit.
  2. Look at the talk page for that article. The tag template says "Please discuss this issue on the talk page" but, sadly, that is rarely done. If I find discussion of cleanup there, I go as with #1 above.
  3. Look at the history. How long ago in both time and number of times edited was that tag applied? Any notes in the revision summaries? If it is a recent add, I can reach out to the editor. If it is from 2014-2016, that's...pretty common. Seen them from 2009. I don't know what they were worrying about in 2009. I doubt they remember either.
  4. By now I have either figured out the problem, or I am just pulling the tag. If someone re-adds it, I am not going to get mad, I am just going to send them a message asking, "OK, can you explain the issue you see that I missed?"

As you can see, by now I have had to do a lot of detective work to figure out 11 characters on a page of text. If you are adding "cleanup" to an article, or any of the similar tags, please please PLEASE do us poor workhorse editors a favor and give a clue as to what bothered you about it. Thanks! Talvin (talk) 17:18, 1 March 2022 (EST)