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Code: AeroTech 2 Vessel Technical Readout
VALIDATED
Class/Model/Name: Porcupine
Tech: Clan / 3075
Vessel Type: WarShip
Rules: Level 2, Custom design
Rules Set: AeroTech2
Mass: 2,500,000 tons
K-F Drive System: (Unknown)
Power Plant: Standard
Safe Thrust: 1
Maximum Thrust: 2
Armor Type: Lamellor Ferro-carbide
Armament:
192 Heavy NPPC
32 NL55
32 NAC/30
8 AR10 Launcher
180 Large Pulse Laser
96 AMS
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Class/Model/Name: Porcupine
Mass: 2,500,000 tons
Equipment: Mass
Power Plant, Drive & Control: 150,000.00
Thrust: Safe Thrust: 1
Maximum Thrust: 2
Kearny-Fuchida Hyperdrive: Compact (Integrity = 47) 1,131,250.00
Jump Sail (Detachable): (Integrity = 9) 155.00
Structural Integrity: 60 150,000.00
Total Heat Sinks: 26,000 Double 25,408.00
Fuel & Fuel Pumps: 14,540.00
Bridge, Controls, Radar, Computer & Attitude Thrusters: 6,250.00
Fire Control Computers: 191,192.00
Food & Water: (370 days supply) 4,052.00
Hyperpulse Generator: 50.00
Armor Type: Lamellor Ferro-carbide (3,335 total armor pts) 2,999.00
Capital Scale Armor Pts
Location: L / R
Fore: 635
Fore-Left/Right: 600/600
Aft-Left/Right: 500/500
Aft: 500
Cargo:
Bay 1: Fighters (50) with 4 doors 7,500.00
Fighter supplies (1) 1,000.00
Bay 2: Fighters (50) with 4 doors 7,500.00
Fighter supplies (1) 1,000.00
DropShip Capacity: 2 Docking Hardpoints 2,000.00
Grav Decks #1 - 4: (225-meter diameter) 400.00
Life Boats: 185 (7 tons each) 1,295.00
Escape Pods: 185 (7 tons each) 1,295.00
Crew and Passengers:
290 Officers (278 minimum) 2,900.00
1,075 Crew (255 minimum) 7,525.00
315 Gunners (310 minimum) 2,205.00
10 1st Class Passengers 100.00
100 Marine Battle Armor Troopers/Elementals 700.00
200 Bay Personnel 1,400.00
Weapons and Equipment Loc SRV MRV LRV ERV Heat Mass
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4 Heavy NPPC Nose 60 60 60 60 900 12,000.00
4 Heavy NPPC Nose 60 60 60 60 900 12,000.00
4 Heavy NPPC Nose 60 60 60 60 900 12,000.00
4 Heavy NPPC Nose 60 60 60 60 900 12,000.00
4 NL55 Nose 22 22 22 22 340 4,400.00
2 NAC/30(200 rounds) Nose 60 60 60 -- 200 7,160.00
2 NAC/30(200 rounds) Nose 60 60 60 -- 200 7,160.00
1 AR10 (30 KW, 30 WS, 40 B)Nose * * * * 20 4,150.00
5 Large Pulse Laser Nose 5(50) 5(50) 5(50) -- 50 30.00
5 Large Pulse Laser Nose 5(50) 5(50) 5(50) -- 50 30.00
5 Large Pulse Laser Nose 5(50) 5(50) 5(50) -- 50 30.00
5 Large Pulse Laser Nose 5(50) 5(50) 5(50) -- 50 30.00
12 AMS(5088 rounds) Nose -- -- -- -- 12 218.00
4 Heavy NPPC FL/R 60 60 60 60 1800 24,000.00
4 Heavy NPPC FL/R 60 60 60 60 1800 24,000.00
4 Heavy NPPC FL/R 60 60 60 60 1800 24,000.00
4 Heavy NPPC FL/R 60 60 60 60 1800 24,000.00
4 Heavy NPPC FL/R 60 60 60 60 1800 24,000.00
4 Heavy NPPC FL/R 60 60 60 60 1800 24,000.00
4 Heavy NPPC FL/R 60 60 60 60 1800 24,000.00
4 Heavy NPPC FL/R 60 60 60 60 1800 24,000.00
4 NL55 FL/R 22 22 22 22 680 8,800.00
2 NAC/30(200 rounds) FL/R 60 60 60 -- 400 14,320.00
2 NAC/30(200 rounds) FL/R 60 60 60 -- 400 14,320.00
1 AR10 (30 KW, 30 WS, 40 B)FL/R * * * * 40 8,300.00
5 Large Pulse Laser FL/R 5(50) 5(50) 5(50) -- 100 60.00
5 Large Pulse Laser FL/R 5(50) 5(50) 5(50) -- 100 60.00
5 Large Pulse Laser FL/R 5(50) 5(50) 5(50) -- 100 60.00
5 Large Pulse Laser FL/R 5(50) 5(50) 5(50) -- 100 60.00
5 Large Pulse Laser FL/R 5(50) 5(50) 5(50) -- 100 60.00
12 AMS(5088 rounds) FL/R -- -- -- -- 24 436.00
4 Heavy NPPC L/RBS 60 60 60 60 1800 24,000.00
4 Heavy NPPC L/RBS 60 60 60 60 1800 24,000.00
4 Heavy NPPC L/RBS 60 60 60 60 1800 24,000.00
4 Heavy NPPC L/RBS 60 60 60 60 1800 24,000.00
4 NL55 L/RBS 22 22 22 22 680 8,800.00
2 NAC/30(200 rounds) L/RBS 60 60 60 -- 400 14,320.00
2 NAC/30(200 rounds) L/RBS 60 60 60 -- 400 14,320.00
1 AR10 (30 KW, 30 WS, 40 B)L/RBS * * * * 40 8,300.00
5 Large Pulse Laser L/RBS 5(50) 5(50) 5(50) -- 100 60.00
5 Large Pulse Laser L/RBS 5(50) 5(50) 5(50) -- 100 60.00
5 Large Pulse Laser L/RBS 5(50) 5(50) 5(50) -- 100 60.00
5 Large Pulse Laser L/RBS 5(50) 5(50) 5(50) -- 100 60.00
12 AMS(5088 rounds) L/RBS -- -- -- -- 24 436.00
4 Heavy NPPC AL/R 60 60 60 60 1800 24,000.00
4 Heavy NPPC AL/R 60 60 60 60 1800 24,000.00
4 Heavy NPPC AL/R 60 60 60 60 1800 24,000.00
4 Heavy NPPC AL/R 60 60 60 60 1800 24,000.00
4 Heavy NPPC AL/R 60 60 60 60 1800 24,000.00
4 Heavy NPPC AL/R 60 60 60 60 1800 24,000.00
4 Heavy NPPC AL/R 60 60 60 60 1800 24,000.00
4 Heavy NPPC AL/R 60 60 60 60 1800 24,000.00
4 NL55 AL/R 22 22 22 22 680 8,800.00
2 NAC/30(200 rounds) AL/R 60 60 60 -- 400 14,320.00
2 NAC/30(200 rounds) AL/R 60 60 60 -- 400 14,320.00
1 AR10 (30 KW, 30 WS, 40 B)AL/R * * * * 40 8,300.00
5 Large Pulse Laser AL/R 5(50) 5(50) 5(50) -- 100 60.00
5 Large Pulse Laser AL/R 5(50) 5(50) 5(50) -- 100 60.00
5 Large Pulse Laser AL/R 5(50) 5(50) 5(50) -- 100 60.00
5 Large Pulse Laser AL/R 5(50) 5(50) 5(50) -- 100 60.00
5 Large Pulse Laser AL/R 5(50) 5(50) 5(50) -- 100 60.00
12 AMS(5088 rounds) AL/R -- -- -- -- 24 436.00
4 Heavy NPPC Aft 60 60 60 60 900 12,000.00
4 Heavy NPPC Aft 60 60 60 60 900 12,000.00
4 Heavy NPPC Aft 60 60 60 60 900 12,000.00
4 Heavy NPPC Aft 60 60 60 60 900 12,000.00
4 NL55 Aft 22 22 22 22 340 4,400.00
2 NAC/30(200 rounds) Aft 60 60 60 -- 200 7,160.00
2 NAC/30(200 rounds) Aft 60 60 60 -- 200 7,160.00
1 AR10 (30 KW, 30 WS, 40 B)Aft * * * * 20 4,150.00
5 Large Pulse Laser Aft 5(50) 5(50) 5(50) -- 50 30.00
5 Large Pulse Laser Aft 5(50) 5(50) 5(50) -- 50 30.00
5 Large Pulse Laser Aft 5(50) 5(50) 5(50) -- 50 30.00
5 Large Pulse Laser Aft 5(50) 5(50) 5(50) -- 50 30.00
12 AMS(5088 rounds) Aft -- -- -- -- 12 218.00
1 Lot Spare Parts (1.00%) 25,000.00
1 Large Naval comm-scanner 500.00
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TOTALS: Heat: 51,176 2,500,000.00
Tons Left: .00
Calculated Factors:
Total Cost: 11,778,427,632 C-Bills
Battle Value: 419,173
Cost per BV: 28,099.2
Weapon Value: 272,146 (Ratio = .65)
Damage Factors: SRV = 39,347; MRV = 38,757; LRV = 30,102; ERV = 11,602
Maintenance: Maintenance Point Value (MPV) = 1,936,484
(179,999 Structure, 372,625 Life Support, 1,383,860 Weapons)
Support Points (SP) = 1,943,570 (100% of MPV)
BattleForce2: Not applicable
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Cray
06/17/17 10:34 PM
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Fighters are at a reasonable number for the tonnage, the docking hardpoints are plausible, the guns aren't bad, and the price is reasonable (did you work in KF support equipment from StratOps?). And I like the gravdeck sizing, just big enough to get 1G at a stomach-safe RPM.
One drawback: the thrust. A hard lesson from modern aerospace rules is that you really need at least 3 thrust points to flip end-over-end in one turn (a useful combat maneuver). It's better to have some reserve to allow for losses from crits, so a 3/5 profile is sort of a minimum. The Porcupine - good name - does have excellent universal weapons coverage so it doesn't need to spin like a turret like some WarShips (e.g., the McKenna or Cruiser), but it'll be hard pressed to keep up with any fleet or DropShips. It can't even manage 1G transit burns with overthrust. You wouldn't lose too much firepower if you went to 2/3.
On the other hand, it would make an excellent, realistic battle station. Unlike any canon battle station design, it can reasonably maneuver toward threats with capital missile launchers (the bane of battle stations).
Mike Miller, Materials Engineer
Disclaimer: Anything stated in this post is unofficial and non-canon unless directly quoted from a published book. Random internet musings of a BattleTech writer are not canon.
Edited by Cray (06/17/17 10:35 PM)
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ATN082268
06/19/17 08:23 AM
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Quote:
Fighters are at a reasonable number for the tonnage, the docking hardpoints are plausible, the guns aren't bad, and the price is reasonable (did you work in KF support equipment from StratOps?). And I like the gravdeck sizing, just big enough to get 1G at a stomach-safe RPM.
One drawback: the thrust. A hard lesson from modern aerospace rules is that you really need at least 3 thrust points to flip end-over-end in one turn (a useful combat maneuver). It's better to have some reserve to allow for losses from crits, so a 3/5 profile is sort of a minimum. The Porcupine - good name - does have excellent universal weapons coverage so it doesn't need to spin like a turret like some WarShips (e.g., the McKenna or Cruiser), but it'll be hard pressed to keep up with any fleet or DropShips. It can't even manage 1G transit burns with overthrust. You wouldn't lose too much firepower if you went to 2/3.
On the other hand, it would make an excellent, realistic battle station. Unlike any canon battle station design, it can reasonably maneuver toward threats with capital missile launchers (the bane of battle stations).
You are right, of course, about the speed of the design. It sucks. I didn't recall ever making a 1/2 design before and decided to see what it would be like... I used the Heavy Metal Aero program and didn't modify any of the changes to the rules since the program was launched.
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Cray
06/19/17 05:40 PM
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Quote:
I didn't recall ever making a 1/2 design before and decided to see what it would be like...
Ah, okay. And it was an interesting result.
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I used the Heavy Metal Aero program and didn't modify any of the changes to the rules since the program was launched.
There's no changes except a line item in the cost calculations, "KF support equipment." That's a tonnage-related cost meant to separate the battleships from the frigates, so to speak, and is easy to add into the price by hand if you're interested.
Mike Miller, Materials Engineer
Disclaimer: Anything stated in this post is unofficial and non-canon unless directly quoted from a published book. Random internet musings of a BattleTech writer are not canon.
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ATN082268
06/20/17 08:45 AM
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Quote:
There's no changes except a line item in the cost calculations, "KF support equipment." That's a tonnage-related cost meant to separate the battleships from the frigates, so to speak, and is easy to add into the price by hand if you're interested.
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