POLL: Unseen

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Karagin
02/25/02 03:25 PM
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Should WizKids/FanPro pursue getting back the original artwork for the Unseen?


Should WizKids/FanPro pursue getting back the original artwork for the Unseen?
Yes
No
Don't Care





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Karagin

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KamikazeJohnson
02/25/02 03:28 PM
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but what 'Mechs come under the heading of "Unseen"? I gather that designation is from a time when I wasn't paying much attention to the source material...
Peace is that glorious moment in history when everyone stands around reloading.
--Thomas Jefferson
Karagin
02/25/02 03:29 PM
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The Unseen are the original 26 mechs missing from the socalled revised TR3025, mechs like the Warhammer, Rifleman etc... so based on that see the above question in the poll.
Karagin

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NathanKell
02/25/02 03:31 PM
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From the rec.games.mecha BT FAQ:
In reply to:

3.) What's the story with FASA and lawsuits about their 'Mech designs,
anyway? (Or: What happened to the "banned" (they are /not/ banned)
'Mechs????) Note: The (more or less) "official" title here on the
newsgroup for these 'Mechs is the Unseen 29(or just the Unseen),
courtesy of Hugh Browne.

The Unseen 29 are:
Locust, Stinger, Wasp, Valkyrie, Ostscout, Phoenix Hawk, Shadow Hawk,
Griffin, Wolverine, Thunder Bolt, Ostroc, Ostsol, Rifleman, Crusader,
Archer, Warhammer, Marauder, BattleMaster, Marauder II, Goliath,
Scorpion, Locust IIC, Phoenix Hawk IIC, Griffin IIC, Shadow Hawk IIC,
Rifleman IIC, Warhammer IIC, the "original" Longbow, and the Marauder
IIC.

Additionally, it appears that the Galleon Tank and Samurai Aerospace
fighter have gone the way of the Unseen as well.

[Ken’ note: No great loss there.]

Note: They are discontinued. That means the art is no longer
produced by FASA (see below for why). They are /not/ banned!!! You
can still play in tournaments with them as official 'Mechs and their
record sheets are available in the Record Sheets Books (FASA
#1694-1696).

[Ken’ note: For those who need it repeated, they are not banned and
may be used at Tournaments. Just keep an eye on your minis,
especially if I’m around.]

The reason for their discontinuation is a rather long story, and there
is a great deal of speculation as to the exact facts of the situation.
Since the lawsuit was settled, none of the participants have disclosed
anything about it. For now, though, the 'Mechs above will simply not
be pictured, though they and their miniatures are perfectly legal for
tournament play.

The only people who really know the whole complete and true story are
FASA and Harmony Gold, and neither of them are talking. Honestly,
we’ve just accepted it. It really is a dead horse to most people.


-NathanKell, BT Space Wars
Question with boldness even the existence of a God; because, if there be one, he must more approve of the homage of reason, than that of blind-folded fear.
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KamikazeJohnson
02/25/02 03:31 PM
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ah...ok, got it. thx
heard that term around here a lot, but never in specific connection to anything. :-\ Guess that's comes from being out of touch for 5 years or so :-\
Peace is that glorious moment in history when everyone stands around reloading.
--Thomas Jefferson
NathanKell
02/25/02 03:33 PM
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Yes indeedy deed!
Nothing says "Eat this!" like a Warhammer.
Except maybe a Marauder
Plus, without them, there's no longer much left to like in 3025...and whatever they say about "tournement legal" goodness knows you won't be *encouraged* to run them, nor will they be mentioned...
-NathanKell, BT Space Wars
Question with boldness even the existence of a God; because, if there be one, he must more approve of the homage of reason, than that of blind-folded fear.
Thomas Jefferson
Karagin
02/25/02 03:37 PM
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Thank you but this has nothing do with anything. If you feel that this must be shared please post it in your own thread. This poll is a simple asking if folks think they (WK/FP) should go about trying to get them back. That is all nothing else.
Karagin

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CrayModerator
02/25/02 03:45 PM
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Now that was a poll I liked. Hell, yeah, they should get back the Unseen.

They don't have a chance in Hell, but that's not the point.
Mike Miller, Materials Engineer

Disclaimer: Anything stated in this post is unofficial and non-canon unless directly quoted from a published book. Random internet musings of a BattleTech writer are not canon.
CrayModerator
02/25/02 03:46 PM
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Actually, it answered a question topical to the thread that, I noted, you also answered in much the same way.
Mike Miller, Materials Engineer

Disclaimer: Anything stated in this post is unofficial and non-canon unless directly quoted from a published book. Random internet musings of a BattleTech writer are not canon.
NathanKell
02/25/02 05:14 PM
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Precisely. We both posted at the same time.
-NathanKell, BT Space Wars
Question with boldness even the existence of a God; because, if there be one, he must more approve of the homage of reason, than that of blind-folded fear.
Thomas Jefferson
NathanKell
02/25/02 05:16 PM
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KamikazeJohnson asked a question.
I answered it, as did you, at the same time (yours appeared on the refresh after posting mine).
Do you feel that while your answer was justified mine was not? I was simply attempting to give him complete information.
-NathanKell, BT Space Wars
Question with boldness even the existence of a God; because, if there be one, he must more approve of the homage of reason, than that of blind-folded fear.
Thomas Jefferson
Karagin
02/25/02 05:18 PM
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When he asked about the mechs not the whole lawsuit crap...there is a difference between answering something and giving to much info for an answer.

He figured it out without all the need for why HG did what they did. So yes I feel mine was justified since in a mere few lines the answer was given without having to go off site to get it.
Karagin

Given time and plenty of paper, a philosopher can prove anything.
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