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First I am going to address what I see as the minimum necessary "cleanup" here, and then I will discuss why I think we should either delete this page or ''signficantly'' pare it down.
 
First I am going to address what I see as the minimum necessary "cleanup" here, and then I will discuss why I think we should either delete this page or ''signficantly'' pare it down.
  
Minimum for cleanup:  This is written in present tense, but it is over twelve years past and needs to be in the past tense.  Even if the case is ongoing, we can still stick to that to keep this page "current" ("As of May 2020, blah blah" or such.)  It needs to be updated if possible with some resolution, as it gives the reader the impression this is an ongoing matter.  Every statement should be clearly cited from an external source.  That's what I see as minimum.
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Minimum for cleanup:  This is written in present tense, but it is over twelve years past and needs to be in the past tense.  Even if the case is ongoing, we can still stick to that to keep this page "current" ("As of May 2020, blah blah" or such.)  It needs to be updated if possible with some resolution, as it is gives the reader the impression this is an ongoing matter.  Every statement should be clearly cited from an external source.  That's what I see as minimum.
  
 
Now, what I feel is ''best'': I am very uncomfortable with having pages like this on the Wiki, as it is all too easy to, even in Good Faith, stumble into [[Policy:Libel|Libel]].  Issues like the [[Unseen]] have a significant impact on the playerbase and the look and contents of the products, and I feel that needs some coverage.  This does not feel like that kind of situation.  Rather than trying to cover it in detail, ''if'' we keep this page and others like it ''at all'', they need to be minimal, primarily pointers to outside sources that cover the details.  Those outside sources are probably ''not'' Wikis that anyone can edit, and in any case Sarna.net is not liable for their contents.  Right now this page is linked from [[Loren L. Coleman]] and [[InMediaRes Productions, LLC]], both of which have summaries that, while maybe some more citations would be desirable, seem quite adequate (and have some closure attached).  Maybe those sections of those pages should just be merged here?
 
Now, what I feel is ''best'': I am very uncomfortable with having pages like this on the Wiki, as it is all too easy to, even in Good Faith, stumble into [[Policy:Libel|Libel]].  Issues like the [[Unseen]] have a significant impact on the playerbase and the look and contents of the products, and I feel that needs some coverage.  This does not feel like that kind of situation.  Rather than trying to cover it in detail, ''if'' we keep this page and others like it ''at all'', they need to be minimal, primarily pointers to outside sources that cover the details.  Those outside sources are probably ''not'' Wikis that anyone can edit, and in any case Sarna.net is not liable for their contents.  Right now this page is linked from [[Loren L. Coleman]] and [[InMediaRes Productions, LLC]], both of which have summaries that, while maybe some more citations would be desirable, seem quite adequate (and have some closure attached).  Maybe those sections of those pages should just be merged here?

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