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Line 2: ==Split ''Rifleman'' and ''Rifleman II''?== ==Split ''Rifleman'' and ''Rifleman II''?== − The ''Rifleman'' and the ''Rifleman II'' share a name, weaponry and battlefield role, but the ''Rifleman II'' is twenty tons heavier and (despite the [[XL engine]]) should be more survivable. Should the ''Rifleman'' and ''Rifleman II'' be split up, like the ''[[Hermes]]'' and ''[[Hermes II]]'', ''[[Griffin]]'' and ''[[Super Griffin]]'', ''[[Marauder]]'' and ''[[Marauder II]]'', etc. The only difficulty I see is the lack of a picture.--[[User:S.gage|S.gage]] 22:10, 24 August 2009 (UTC) + The ''Rifleman'' and the ''Rifleman II'' share a name, weaponry and battlefield role, but the ''Rifleman II'' is twenty tons heavier and (despite the [[XL Engine]]) should be more survivable. Should the ''Rifleman'' and ''Rifleman II'' be split up, like the ''[[Hermes]]'' and ''[[Hermes II]]'', ''[[Griffin]]'' and ''[[Super Griffin]]'', ''[[Marauder]]'' and ''[[Marauder II]]'', etc. The only difficulty I see is the lack of a picture.--[[User:S.gage|S.gage]] 22:10, 24 August 2009 (UTC) :I vote 'yes'. --[[User:Revanche|Revanche]] <sup>([[User_talk:Revanche|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Revanche|contribs]])</sup> 22:33, 24 August 2009 (UTC) :I vote 'yes'. --[[User:Revanche|Revanche]] <sup>([[User_talk:Revanche|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Revanche|contribs]])</sup> 22:33, 24 August 2009 (UTC) ::The problem is that the ''Rifleman II'' isn't really it's own design with its own TRO entry. If it gets one, then I'm with you, but I don't think there is enough information on that one variant to warrant an entirely new page. --[[User:Scaletail|Scaletail]] 00:29, 25 August 2009 (UTC) ::The problem is that the ''Rifleman II'' isn't really it's own design with its own TRO entry. If it gets one, then I'm with you, but I don't think there is enough information on that one variant to warrant an entirely new page. --[[User:Scaletail|Scaletail]] 00:29, 25 August 2009 (UTC) :::Though I think the unit should be separated, I cannot deny that without an actual TRO entry, it is hard to make this change. I'll wait for more concrete information. At this point, the ''Rifleman II'' can be split from the rest within the page, but I'll leave the link empty.--[[User:S.gage|S.gage]] 02:50, 25 August 2009 (UTC) :::Though I think the unit should be separated, I cannot deny that without an actual TRO entry, it is hard to make this change. I'll wait for more concrete information. At this point, the ''Rifleman II'' can be split from the rest within the page, but I'll leave the link empty.--[[User:S.gage|S.gage]] 02:50, 25 August 2009 (UTC) − ::::As this happened quite a long time, isn't having the entry here [[Record Sheets: 3055 Upgrade]] enough to grant its own page?--[[User:Pserratv|Pserratv]] ([[User talk:Pserratv|talk]]) 10:37, 1 March 2018 (EST) − :::::Yes it is. Imho, the ''Rifleman II'' should have ist own article. Feel free to create it. ;) [[User:Frabby|Frabby]] ([[User talk:Frabby|talk]]) 03:53, 2 March 2018 (EST) − ::::::For good or bad, done :)--[[User:Pserratv|Pserratv]] ([[User talk:Pserratv|talk]]) 06:36, 3 March 2018 (EST) ==''Rifleman C''== ==''Rifleman C''== I added the details of the ''Rifleman C'' from [[The Battle for Twycross]] scenario pack. I explicitly included the details of the source for this design, as I realize these designs have not appeared often, and their canonicity could be considered questionable. The inclusion of this design is strictly informational, and can be removed if considered too controversial.--[[User:S.gage|S.gage]] 02:29, 1 May 2010 (UTC) I added the details of the ''Rifleman C'' from [[The Battle for Twycross]] scenario pack. I explicitly included the details of the source for this design, as I realize these designs have not appeared often, and their canonicity could be considered questionable. The inclusion of this design is strictly informational, and can be removed if considered too controversial.--[[User:S.gage|S.gage]] 02:29, 1 May 2010 (UTC) : IIRC, the record sheets to those designs were published at some point. Good idea, btw. [[User:ClanWolverine101|ClanWolverine101]] 13:23, 1 May 2010 (UTC) : IIRC, the record sheets to those designs were published at some point. Good idea, btw. [[User:ClanWolverine101|ClanWolverine101]] 13:23, 1 May 2010 (UTC) + :: The original four volume BattleTech Record Sheets series seems to cover them, I only have [[BattleTech Record Sheets Volume Four: Assault 'Mechs]] but the ''Victor C'' and ''Atlas C'' in it seem to match based on what S.gage has been adding. [[User:Cyc|Cyc]] 14:29, 1 May 2010 (UTC) :: The original four volume BattleTech Record Sheets series seems to cover them, I only have [[BattleTech Record Sheets Volume Four: Assault 'Mechs]] but the ''Victor C'' and ''Atlas C'' in it seem to match based on what S.gage has been adding. [[User:Cyc|Cyc]] 14:29, 1 May 2010 (UTC) − ==55-ton ''Rifleman''== ==55-ton ''Rifleman''== I remember reading a while back the the original ''Rifleman'' design, the RFL-1N, and its followup, the -2N, were 55-tonners. I can't, though, remember ''where'' I read that. Does anyone have the documentation for that and the ability to add it? [[User:GOLFisNOTaSPORT|GOLFisNOTaSPORT]] 13:05, 14 August 2011 (UTC) I remember reading a while back the the original ''Rifleman'' design, the RFL-1N, and its followup, the -2N, were 55-tonners. I can't, though, remember ''where'' I read that. Does anyone have the documentation for that and the ability to add it? [[User:GOLFisNOTaSPORT|GOLFisNOTaSPORT]] 13:05, 14 August 2011 (UTC) − :In what appears to be an oversight, the Solaris VII player handbook from the boxed set repeatedly refers to the ''Rifleman'' as a 65-ton design in the writeup on Gray Noton. Perhaps that's what you are remembering? [[User:Frabby|Frabby]] ([[User talk:Frabby|talk]]) 03:53, 2 March 2018 (EST) ==Pictures== ==Pictures==
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==Split ''Rifleman'' and ''Rifleman II''?== | ==Split ''Rifleman'' and ''Rifleman II''?== | ||
| − | The ''Rifleman'' and the ''Rifleman II'' share a name, weaponry and battlefield role, but the ''Rifleman II'' is twenty tons heavier and (despite the [[XL | + | The ''Rifleman'' and the ''Rifleman II'' share a name, weaponry and battlefield role, but the ''Rifleman II'' is twenty tons heavier and (despite the [[XL Engine]]) should be more survivable. Should the ''Rifleman'' and ''Rifleman II'' be split up, like the ''[[Hermes]]'' and ''[[Hermes II]]'', ''[[Griffin]]'' and ''[[Super Griffin]]'', ''[[Marauder]]'' and ''[[Marauder II]]'', etc. The only difficulty I see is the lack of a picture.--[[User:S.gage|S.gage]] 22:10, 24 August 2009 (UTC) |
:I vote 'yes'. --[[User:Revanche|Revanche]] <sup>([[User_talk:Revanche|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Revanche|contribs]])</sup> 22:33, 24 August 2009 (UTC) | :I vote 'yes'. --[[User:Revanche|Revanche]] <sup>([[User_talk:Revanche|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Revanche|contribs]])</sup> 22:33, 24 August 2009 (UTC) | ||
::The problem is that the ''Rifleman II'' isn't really it's own design with its own TRO entry. If it gets one, then I'm with you, but I don't think there is enough information on that one variant to warrant an entirely new page. --[[User:Scaletail|Scaletail]] 00:29, 25 August 2009 (UTC) | ::The problem is that the ''Rifleman II'' isn't really it's own design with its own TRO entry. If it gets one, then I'm with you, but I don't think there is enough information on that one variant to warrant an entirely new page. --[[User:Scaletail|Scaletail]] 00:29, 25 August 2009 (UTC) | ||
:::Though I think the unit should be separated, I cannot deny that without an actual TRO entry, it is hard to make this change. I'll wait for more concrete information. At this point, the ''Rifleman II'' can be split from the rest within the page, but I'll leave the link empty.--[[User:S.gage|S.gage]] 02:50, 25 August 2009 (UTC) | :::Though I think the unit should be separated, I cannot deny that without an actual TRO entry, it is hard to make this change. I'll wait for more concrete information. At this point, the ''Rifleman II'' can be split from the rest within the page, but I'll leave the link empty.--[[User:S.gage|S.gage]] 02:50, 25 August 2009 (UTC) | ||
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==''Rifleman C''== | ==''Rifleman C''== | ||
I added the details of the ''Rifleman C'' from [[The Battle for Twycross]] scenario pack. I explicitly included the details of the source for this design, as I realize these designs have not appeared often, and their canonicity could be considered questionable. The inclusion of this design is strictly informational, and can be removed if considered too controversial.--[[User:S.gage|S.gage]] 02:29, 1 May 2010 (UTC) | I added the details of the ''Rifleman C'' from [[The Battle for Twycross]] scenario pack. I explicitly included the details of the source for this design, as I realize these designs have not appeared often, and their canonicity could be considered questionable. The inclusion of this design is strictly informational, and can be removed if considered too controversial.--[[User:S.gage|S.gage]] 02:29, 1 May 2010 (UTC) | ||
: IIRC, the record sheets to those designs were published at some point. Good idea, btw. [[User:ClanWolverine101|ClanWolverine101]] 13:23, 1 May 2010 (UTC) | : IIRC, the record sheets to those designs were published at some point. Good idea, btw. [[User:ClanWolverine101|ClanWolverine101]] 13:23, 1 May 2010 (UTC) | ||
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:: The original four volume BattleTech Record Sheets series seems to cover them, I only have [[BattleTech Record Sheets Volume Four: Assault 'Mechs]] but the ''Victor C'' and ''Atlas C'' in it seem to match based on what S.gage has been adding. [[User:Cyc|Cyc]] 14:29, 1 May 2010 (UTC) | :: The original four volume BattleTech Record Sheets series seems to cover them, I only have [[BattleTech Record Sheets Volume Four: Assault 'Mechs]] but the ''Victor C'' and ''Atlas C'' in it seem to match based on what S.gage has been adding. [[User:Cyc|Cyc]] 14:29, 1 May 2010 (UTC) | ||
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==55-ton ''Rifleman''== | ==55-ton ''Rifleman''== | ||
I remember reading a while back the the original ''Rifleman'' design, the RFL-1N, and its followup, the -2N, were 55-tonners. I can't, though, remember ''where'' I read that. Does anyone have the documentation for that and the ability to add it? [[User:GOLFisNOTaSPORT|GOLFisNOTaSPORT]] 13:05, 14 August 2011 (UTC) | I remember reading a while back the the original ''Rifleman'' design, the RFL-1N, and its followup, the -2N, were 55-tonners. I can't, though, remember ''where'' I read that. Does anyone have the documentation for that and the ability to add it? [[User:GOLFisNOTaSPORT|GOLFisNOTaSPORT]] 13:05, 14 August 2011 (UTC) | ||
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==Pictures== | ==Pictures== | ||