Editing User talk:Will9761

{{Welcome}}

==Creating Command Articles==

Good morning, Will9761. You'll find this template useful in making your new articles on commands: [[Help:CreateCommandArticle]].--[[User:Revanche|Revanche]] <sup>([[User_talk:Revanche|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Revanche|contribs]])</sup> 08:09, 27 May 2018 (EDT)
:Hey Will9761 just want to repeat Revs push for your articles to use the templates, your content is good but you need to wikifi it!--[[User:Dmon|Dmon]] ([[User talk:Dmon|talk]]) 17:53, 3 June 2018 (EDT)

==Creating Character Articles==
Will, please take a look at [[Help:CreateCharacterArticle|this Character template]]. This should help bring [[Ren Posavatz]] up to the standards of similar articles. Let me know if you have any questions. --[[User:Revanche|Revanche]] <sup>([[User_talk:Revanche|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Revanche|contribs]])</sup> 21:58, 29 May 2018 (EDT)

== References ==

This section should help your references become useful to readers: [[Help:References#Specific_References]].  --[[User:Revanche|Revanche]] <sup>([[User_talk:Revanche|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Revanche|contribs]])</sup> 18:03, 12 June 2018 (EDT)

== Aurigan Directorate ==

Hey Will9761, I have restored the Directorate article as a redirect as the nation is not really a different nation to the Coalation, it is simply a change of government for a short three years, and resultant civil war. I have however incorporated what you wrote into the Directorate section of the Coalation article as it is very good.--[[User:Dmon|Dmon]] ([[User talk:Dmon|talk]]) 04:11, 22 June 2018 (EDT)

== Article name and scope ==
Hi Will9761. I appreciate your work on expanding our coverage of the extra content from the HBS game. I've put some comments on [[Talk:Arms Dealer]] and [[Talk:Lord]], and I apologize if they come across as a bit harsh. But these articles do have problems that need to be adressed. Hope I'm helpful and not discouraging. :) [[User:Frabby|Frabby]] ([[User talk:Frabby|talk]]) 07:02, 23 June 2018 (EDT)
:I left the characters of the arms dealer and Captain Haust blank on purpose due to not having full names for them--[[User:Dmon|Dmon]] ([[User talk:Dmon|talk]]) 07:46, 23 June 2018 (EDT)
::I've remade the Lord and Lady articles into redirects to [[Nobility]]. As for the Arms Dealer character, still no good idea. This should perhaps all be covered in [[Samuel Ostergaard]]'s article, and/or in the Storyline section of the [[BattleTech (Video Game)]] article. [[User:Frabby|Frabby]] ([[User talk:Frabby|talk]]) 04:06, 26 June 2018 (EDT)

Hi again. I see you've been creating articles for numerous computer game characters. That's good, but I am a bit unhappy about the article names in some cases - namely those cases where the full name isn't known, like the Arms Dealer already mentioned above. Newer examples would be [[Baxter (Character)]] or [[Ambassador Yee]]. The articles as such are fine, but I feel they should contain a note to the effect that the character's full name isn't known, and that the article name is therefore conjecture. Perhaps we should create a template for articles with arguable article names because the subject doesn't have a proper known name or description? [[User:Frabby|Frabby]] ([[User talk:Frabby|talk]]) 06:24, 14 August 2018 (EDT)

== Good work ==
Good work on the ''[[Iberia]]'' article! :) [[User:Frabby|Frabby]] ([[User talk:Frabby|talk]]) 04:06, 26 June 2018 (EDT)

== Merging articles ==

Will, since I cannot rationalize how any user of Sarna might search for "RAF - Uniforms" with exactly that term, and since it seems extremely unlikely that anyone would be looking for uniform articles for a limited faction, I think it's best the article gets pasted directly into [[Republic Armed Forces]]. I'll let you make an argument as to why it should be kept as it's own article, but you should also suggest a title in line with [[Policy:Article Naming]], to strengthen your stance. 

If you choose to not defend the article as a separate entity, I'll make the merge following your next edit session.--[[User:Revanche|Revanche]] <sup>([[User_talk:Revanche|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Revanche|contribs]])</sup> 12:32, 27 June 2018 (EDT)

:To be honest with you, I actually welcome the change. It helps to get the info across easier. - Will9761

::Excellent. In reviewing the [[Republic Armed Forces]] page, I saw where it was set-up by the creator to link to "specialty" articles, which did not help the primary article at all. I'll make the change.--[[User:Revanche|Revanche]] <sup>([[User_talk:Revanche|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Revanche|contribs]])</sup> 15:56, 27 June 2018 (EDT)

==Of Foxes and Sharks==
Hi, Revanche asked me to weigh in on your suggestion (as if my opinion was somehow more valuable than anyone elses'). For what it's worth, you've got my complete support: All Clan Diamond Shark articles should redirect to Clan Sea Fox. It's the virtual same Clan under an alias name.

That said, remember to keep it short. We want to write articles for Sarna, not sourcebooks that steal CGL's thunder. ;) [[User:Frabby|Frabby]] ([[User talk:Frabby|talk]]) 04:42, 3 July 2018 (EDT)

== Character affiliations ==

Good evening Will, I have changed the affiliations of the character articles you created for the [[MechCommander 2]] characters towards their nation states rather than the ruling house. I am actively trying to steer the wiki in the direction of nation states being the go-to affiliation unless the character is born of a noble family (and thus would have a familial loyalty that potentially outshines national loyalty), I would appreciate it if you would assist in this huge task by adopting this system for future articles.--[[User:Dmon|Dmon]] ([[User talk:Dmon|talk]]) 19:55, 13 August 2018 (EDT)
:Ok, will do.<br>-Will9761
::Thanks, and thank you for diving into the video game characters. It has been on my list of things that need doing for what feels like forever!--[[User:Dmon|Dmon]] ([[User talk:Dmon|talk]]) 04:14, 14 August 2018 (EDT)
You’re welcome, I am glad to help. I also took liberty in making a separate page to direct people to both Baxter the planet and the person.<br>-Will9761

==Too specific or too broad==
Hey Will, I expressed encouragement for you doing the Video Game Characters last time I spoke to you but I am starting to grow concerned about phrases like "the player" and "the game". As I am sure you are aware the vast majority of stuff on the wiki is based on table top stuff and novels, as a result stuff like [[:Category:Playable Characters]] really is either too specific to the video games or way way to broad as pretty much EVERYBODY is a playable character in the TT version. I do not have a sure fire recommendation as to how to get around using these phrases, but I do think it is something you should take into consideration when writing.--[[User:Dmon|Dmon]] ([[User talk:Dmon|talk]]) 17:19, 23 August 2018 (EDT)
:Sure, I will see what I can do about the phrasing and the Playable Characters section to be a bit more specific. Thank you for bringing this to my attention.<br>
--Will9761
::Thank you, as with the Character affiliations I am just trying to nudge people in roughly the same direction. The BattleTech Universe being a multi-media franchise means people come in from different directions and want different things to be included so I do my best to try avoid letting too much content become bogged down in one place!--[[User:Dmon|Dmon]] ([[User talk:Dmon|talk]]) 17:53, 23 August 2018 (EDT)

That is understandable. So far I made a category to be a bit more specific called "Playable Characters (Video Games)" so it would be less confusing. I also made sure to remove "the player" and replace the wording with the respective character's names instead.<br>
-- Will9761

== Thoughts ==

Morning Will9761 (or what ever time it is where you are),

As one of a crop of new editors on the wiki I would like your thoughts on something that has knock on effects about handling future new products. [[Talk:List of BattleTech products#Merging the PDF products into the main product line|How we handle new products]].--[[User:Dmon|Dmon]] ([[User talk:Dmon|talk]]) 05:46, 28 November 2018 (EST)

==Image Summary Template & Apocryphal Images==
Hi Will, Can you please add the source of images when you upload: [[:Policy:Images#Images_must_name_their_source|Policy:Images.]] I am adding [[Template:Image_summary]] to all images that I can, and any help is appreciated. If you add the template and the information is unknown, leave the line blank. The image will show up in the [[http://www.sarna.net/wiki/:Category:Missing_copyright_information Images Missing Copyright Information]] category and someone else may be able to add the info. But, obviously, the more you can add the better. If there is no template on the image, it does not appear in the category, and can only be found by chance. Also, apocryphal images also need to be tagged, not just articles. There's an easier tag for them that goes on top of the images page: <nowiki>{{ApocryphalImage}}</nowiki>. I added the template and apoc tag to the two most recent images that you uploaded if you'd like to reference them:  	[[:File:Bogdan Tubbs.png]]‎‎ and [[:File:Cameron Coyne.png]]‎ Thank you!--[[User:Cache|Cache]] ([[User talk:Cache|talk]]) 21:18, 22 March 2019 (EDT)

Ok, sorry about that. It slipped my mind. Thanks for reminding me.
- Will9761

== List of Bloodnames ==

Hey Will,

Couple of things, some good, some bad. First up good work on the [[List of Bloodnames]] stuff updating it. I am not really a fan of the Clans so it is nice seeing somebody put sone serious effort into them as they can be ignored a bit sometines. Now the bad, you need to add references!!!!! I can tell by the quality of the work that it is correct but we need to be able to prove it! 

And now as a side thing, as I was reading your much improved article it struck me that ''List'' of Bloodnames does not really fit anymore as the article has outgrown that. Maybe we should consider a new name?--[[User:Dmon|Dmon]] ([[User talk:Dmon|talk]]) 17:39, 2 August 2019 (EDT)

Thank you. I'll be working on adding the references right away. As for List of Bloodnames, we could try to call it "Bloodnames (History)" or "Bloodnames of the Clans".

- Will9761

== Notable pilots ==
Hey Will, I have rolled back your edit about the Bounty Hunter on the Warhammer article because although the info is correct, the BH is strongly assosiated with the Marauder, so that is his notable pilot entry and that is it. The fact he piloted a Warhammer or anything else in his career is secondary to the one he is notable for. Also Naty K has a notable pilot entry for piloting the very same 'Mech not just the same model, that is kinda cheating!--[[User:Dmon|Dmon]] ([[User talk:Dmon|talk]]) 19:02, 30 November 2019 (EST)
:My apologies, I did not know. I wasn't trying to cheat or deceive, I thought that the Warhammer that Natasha Kerensky had was the same used by the Bounty Hunter. It was an honest mistake on my part.
::It is the same one that they both used, the comment about the cheating was a joke about the implication of the 'mech trying to hog the limelight with multiple famous pilots. Don't worry at no point did I think you where trying to cheat or decieve, just my humour not translating across well into the written format without emojis. No harm done sir.--[[User:Dmon|Dmon]] ([[User talk:Dmon|talk]]) 19:13, 30 November 2019 (EST)

== Alexi / Alexis ==

Hey Will,

Just wanted to ask about the [[Alexis Holt]] article you created, I personally only remember the character as [[|Alexi Holt|Alexi]], but if Alexis is her full name, do you know how to set up a redirect?--[[User:Dmon|Dmon]] ([[User talk:Dmon|talk]]) 17:01, 11 January 2020 (EST)

When I made the page Alexis Holt, I thought it was referring to Alexi Holt. Of course after I saw the Alexi Holt page, I decided to take the information I made for the Alexis Holt page and add it to the Alexi page. Unfortunately, I do not know how to make a redirect page yet.
-Will9761
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 Hey Will,
-Just wanted to ask about the [[Alexis Holt]] article you created, I personally only remember the character as [[Alexi Holt|Alexi]], but if Alexis is her full name, do you know how to set up a redirect?--[[User:Dmon|Dmon]] ([[User talk:Dmon|talk]]) 17:01, 11 January 2020 (EST)
+Just wanted to ask about the [[Alexis Holt]] article you created, I personally only remember the character as [[|Alexi Holt|Alexi]], but if Alexis is her full name, do you know how to set up a redirect?--[[User:Dmon|Dmon]] ([[User talk:Dmon|talk]]) 17:01, 11 January 2020 (EST)
-:When I made the page Alexis Holt, I thought it was referring to Alexi Holt. Of course after I saw the Alexi Holt page, I decided to take the information I made for the Alexis Holt page and add it to the Alexi page. Unfortunately, I do not know how to make a redirect page yet.-Will9761
+When I made the page Alexis Holt, I thought it was referring to Alexi Holt. Of course after I saw the Alexi Holt page, I decided to take the information I made for the Alexis Holt page and add it to the Alexi page. Unfortunately, I do not know how to make a redirect page yet.
-::Not a problem! To create a redirect is real easy. Go to the article name you want to redirect from (so in this case it would be [[Alexi Holt]]) and type the word Redirect with a hash in front of it and then the name of the article you want users to end up at, so we would have the text ''hash''Redirect[[Alexis Holt]]. Only ever do this to empty articles though as once a redirect is set up users will only ever see the Alexis Holt article unless they use the "What Links Here" tool.
-::Specifically on the name Alexis holt it might be worth putting a ref for her name being Alexis in the initial character brief since she is called Alexi so often.--[[User:Dmon|Dmon]] ([[User talk:Dmon|talk]]) 04:55, 12 January 2020 (EST)
-:::Hi Will, you uploaded an image of Alexi(s) Holt but no source is given. Can you add a source to the image please? [[User:Frabby|Frabby]] ([[User talk:Frabby|talk]]) 04:18, 15 January 2020 (EST)
-::::I knew the source so I have added the info. It is from her MW:AoD pilot card. So now the only thing left to do is get us an exact reference to her name possibly being Alexis please Will.--[[User:Dmon|Dmon]] ([[User talk:Dmon|talk]]) 04:54, 15 January 2020 (EST)
-Sure, I'm on it.
-UPDATE: Okay, I looked through some Dark Age Novels to see if her name was Alexis, but they confirmed that her real name is in fact, Alexi. So the "Alexis" page I edited was a mistake on my part. Is there any way to revert the page back to "Alexi Holt"?
-- Will9761
-== Nomination. ==
-I just want you to know that I have nominated you for an award in the ''[[BattleTechWiki:2019_Founder's_Awards|2019 Founder's Awards]]'' for your work on the wiki last year. [[User:Dmon|Dmon]] ([[User talk:Dmon|talk]]) 09:34, 16 February 2020 (EST)
-Thank you. I'm honored that you would do that for me.
 -Will9761
-:Totally agreed, it's wonderful to have you aboard! [[User:Nicjansma|Nicjansma]] ([[User talk:Nicjansma|talk]]) 21:11, 7 July 2020 (EDT)
-== Formerly ==
-Hey Will,
-I rolled back your edits on the Trent article because I do not think it really adds anything to the infobox and in all honesty, since we have a date of death... I would say that in universe he is formerly everything!--[[User:Dmon|Dmon]] ([[User talk:Dmon|talk]]) 11:48, 19 August 2020 (EDT)
-That's fair. As Trent was once one thing, he has transcended the BT Universe as everything.
-- Will9761
-== Image Uploads ==
-Hi Will. Your latest image uploads did not include any of the required summary information. The template, with example, is found here: [[:Template:Image_summary/doc]]. If you could add your source, at the very least, it helps us out. Thank you!--[[User:Cache|Cache]] ([[User talk:Cache|talk]]) 16:53, 25 August 2020 (EDT)
-:Hi Will. One more thing about the image template. If you leave the artist or the summary blank they will automatically display ''Missing artist'' or ''Missing summary'', along with adding a category like [[:Category:Missing copyright information|Missing copyright information]] so we can keep track of the images. A summary should explain what's happening on the page, something like ''[[:File:I_Am_Jade_Falcon.jpg|I Am Jade Falcon]]''. The summary is the least important of the information (especially if it's difficult to tell what exact BattleTech is involved). Thanks a lot! --<span style="font-family:Courier">[[User:Ebakunin|Ebakunin]]</span> <sup>([[User talk:Ebakunin|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Ebakunin|contribs]])</sup> 19:45, 7 September 2020 (EDT)
-== Discord? ==
-Are you on the Sarna Discord server? If so, what is your callsign there?--[[User:Revanche|Revanche]] <sup>([[User_talk:Revanche|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Revanche|contribs]])</sup> 08:29, 22 June 2021 (EDT)
-: No, I wasn't even aware you had a discord. But my name is the same as you see on Sarna. - Will9761
-:: Ok. So far I only see @will, so that's not you. Thanks. --[[User:Revanche|Revanche]] <sup>([[User_talk:Revanche|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Revanche|contribs]])</sup> 14:25, 22 June 2021 (EDT)
-== Future Tense Usage ==
-Hey Will! I wanted to first off say thank you for creating so many new articles and adding so much content to the wiki (especially to the Video Game stuff, which is one of my pet projects)! Your work has definitely improved a lot around here.
-I did want to mention something which I've noticed in some of your additions, namely that occasionally you write in the future tense: "Bob would then pull the trigger...", when instead, wiki articles normally are written in past tense ("Bob pulled the trigger"). The only major exception is Year pages which are written in present tense: "[[Mackie]] BattleMech is first introduced". This is just a trend I've noticed, and I wanted to make you aware of it. Like I said above, great job with adding so much valuable info to the wiki, I and others appreciate it! -[[User:BobTheZombie|BobTheZombie]] ([[User talk:BobTheZombie|talk]]) 15:41, 21 February 2022 (EST)
-== Jade Falcon History ==
-I noticed in passing that you are working on the history of Clan Jade Falcon.  I wrote this as a resource, you may or may not find anything you need in there: [[Essay: IlClan Jade Falcons]]--[[User:Talvin|Talvin]] ([[User talk:Talvin|talk]]) 11:38, 11 July 2022 (EDT)
-Thanks, I'll be sure to check it out. - Will9761
-== Image Source? ==
-Hi Will. Can you please add as much information as possible to the [[:File:Clan-protectorate.png|Clan Protectorate logo]] that you uploaded? The source is required at a minimum. Thank you! --[[User:Cache|Cache]] ([[User talk:Cache|talk]]) 16:12, 2 October 2022 (EDT)
-== History of the Clans ==
-Hey Will,
-Nice work on the [[History of the Clans]], that is a lovely chunk. I do however need you to go back and add some citations!--[[User:Dmon|Dmon]] ([[User talk:Dmon|talk]]) 17:57, 4 December 2023 (EST)
-That's the plan, I was taking a bit of a break. - Will9761
-== MW2 Arcade Image ==
-Can you add the source of this image you uploaded? [[:File:MechWarrior_2_Arcade_Combat_Edition_Sega_Saturn.jpg]]
-Thanks, --[[User:Cache|Cache]] ([[User talk:Cache|talk]]) 11:11, 7 January 2024 (EST)
-==Infobox for Battle articles==
-[[Template:InfoBoxBattle]]<br>
-Hiya Will9761, since you're doing some work on Battles, I thought I'd throw this your way in case you can incorporate it into your edits. It's the most recent infobox the wiki uses and I think you'll find it's a massive improvement over the previous one. Eventually they will all be updated, but knowing about the battles helps with the accuracy. [[User:Csdavis715|Csdavis715]] ([[User talk:Csdavis715|talk]]) 21:59, 4 February 2024 (EST)
-This will be invaluable for sure. Thanks for letting me know about this. I'll be sure to put this to good use. - Will9761