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:In this case, it doesn't bother me either way. I know the new art is attached to the 12S, but it's also good for the 3S (which is still a far cry from the 3E). For the most part, all the updated artwork has been drawn to match the original model, with a new-tech variant created to make it as WYSIWYG as possible and still playable in the modern era. It's just that there's no love for the 3E.--[[User:Cache|Cache]] ([[User talk:Cache|talk]]) 17:52, 4 August 2021 (EDT)
 
:In this case, it doesn't bother me either way. I know the new art is attached to the 12S, but it's also good for the 3S (which is still a far cry from the 3E). For the most part, all the updated artwork has been drawn to match the original model, with a new-tech variant created to make it as WYSIWYG as possible and still playable in the modern era. It's just that there's no love for the 3E.--[[User:Cache|Cache]] ([[User talk:Cache|talk]]) 17:52, 4 August 2021 (EDT)
 
::I realize it's kind of pedantic, but I think it's weird to have a box that says "1x PPC 1x AC/5 1x small laser" and then above it there's a mech with three main guns, a whole mess of secondaries and a missile launcher on top. The art isn't usually of the exact same mech, but you can usually fool yourself into it. Not so with this one. Seems like the primary art should be a 3E or something similar if we're going to continue treating the 3E as the main Banshee.--[[User:ReinhardtSteiner|ReinhardtSteiner]] ([[User talk:ReinhardtSteiner|talk]]) 20:59, 4 August 2021 (EDT)
 
::I realize it's kind of pedantic, but I think it's weird to have a box that says "1x PPC 1x AC/5 1x small laser" and then above it there's a mech with three main guns, a whole mess of secondaries and a missile launcher on top. The art isn't usually of the exact same mech, but you can usually fool yourself into it. Not so with this one. Seems like the primary art should be a 3E or something similar if we're going to continue treating the 3E as the main Banshee.--[[User:ReinhardtSteiner|ReinhardtSteiner]] ([[User talk:ReinhardtSteiner|talk]]) 20:59, 4 August 2021 (EDT)
::::I am not aware of any rule that dictates exactly what variant is in the infobox. It is customary for the variant that features in the original TRO entry but I do not think switching it out for the 3S would be too much trouble, and would facilitate the use of the new art.--[[User:Dmon|Dmon]] ([[User talk:Dmon|talk]]) 23:33, 4 August 2021 (EDT)
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::::I am not aware of any rule that dictates exactly what variant is in the infobox. It is customary for the variant that features in the original TRO entry but I do not think switching it out for the 3S would be too much trouble, and would facilitate the use of the new art.
:::::The question which variant (and which image) belongs in the infobox is an as-yet unresolved issue on which there seems to be no user consensus so far. [[User:Frabby|Frabby]] ([[User talk:Frabby|talk]]) 05:26, 5 August 2021 (EDT)
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--[[User:Dmon|Dmon]] ([[User talk:Dmon|talk]]) 23:33, 4 August 2021 (EDT)
:::::Revisiting this here: [[Policy Talk:Images#Lead Image for Infobox]] [[User:Frabby|Frabby]] ([[User talk:Frabby|talk]]) 05:23, 19 August 2021 (EDT)
 
::::::I think, based on the conversation in the images policy thread, I'd be comfortable with changing the "main" Banshee to the 3S. That seems to be VERY MUCH the way the wind is blowing from CGL, between TRO: Succession Wars treating the 3E as the variant and the KS minis excluding the 3E for the 3S. If anyone has any very pressing objections, I'll be sharpening my edit-hatchet for a bit before I do this.--[[User:ReinhardtSteiner|ReinhardtSteiner]] ([[User talk:ReinhardtSteiner|talk]]) 00:32, 22 August 2021 (EDT)
 
:::::::I'm deathly afraid of any drive to put any "current" information front and center on Sarna. It is a fleeting concept, frequently changing, and we'd end up chasing ghosts and shadows across the breadth of Sarna forever. This is simply not sustainable. Nobody is going to do that work, and as a result the wiki will be frequently outdated instead of merely not quite up to date.
 
:::::::The only sustainable approach I can think of is to build it up in chronological order. Example page to follow once I find the time; it will be the ''[[Archer]]'' page. [[User:Frabby|Frabby]] ([[User talk:Frabby|talk]]) 01:36, 23 August 2021 (EDT)
 
::::::: I tend to agree with Frabby here. Leading with "current" stuff would be nice, but it creates a bunch of work which we'll never keep up with, and I think the incompleteness gives a worse impression than leading with older stuff first.[[User:HF22|HF22]] ([[User talk:HF22|talk]]) 01:45, 23 August 2021 (EDT)
 
 
 
::::::::I reverted to the BNC-3E image for the time being, since I changed it in the first place and so that the image matches the infobox data. Once we get a formal consensus on the image policy, we can revert again if necessary. --[[User:Cache|Cache]] ([[User talk:Cache|talk]]) 12:13, 23 August 2021 (EDT)
 

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