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I just found out that the term battle armor should '''not''' be capitalized (see [[Talk:Battle Armor#Capitalization]]), so be sure to keep that in mind when working. -[[User:BobTheZombie|BobTheZombie]] ([[User talk:BobTheZombie|talk]]) 17:52, 2 February 2014 (PST)
 
I just found out that the term battle armor should '''not''' be capitalized (see [[Talk:Battle Armor#Capitalization]]), so be sure to keep that in mind when working. -[[User:BobTheZombie|BobTheZombie]] ([[User talk:BobTheZombie|talk]]) 17:52, 2 February 2014 (PST)
 
:Thanks.[[User:LittleWolf|LittleWolf]] ([[User talk:LittleWolf|talk]]) 08:08, 3 February 2014 (PST)
 
:Thanks.[[User:LittleWolf|LittleWolf]] ([[User talk:LittleWolf|talk]]) 08:08, 3 February 2014 (PST)
::I noticed that you were changing the capitalization within links ( <nowiki>[[Small Laser (Battle Armor)|Small Laser]]</nowiki> ) with no visible change to the page, and I just wanted you to know that that isn't as important as changing the full word of [[battle armor]] within the text to battle armor. If you really want, you can keep going with what you were doing, I just think it's not as necessary at the moment. -[[User:BobTheZombie|BobTheZombie]] ([[User talk:BobTheZombie|talk]]) 15:27, 6 February 2014 (PST)
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::I noticed that you were changing the capitalization within links ( <nowiki>[[Small Laser (Battle Armor)|Small Laser]]</nowiki> ) with no visible change to the page, and I just wanted you to know that that isn't as important as changing the full word of [[Battle Armor]] within the text to battle armor. If you really want, you can keep going with what you were doing, I just think it's not as necessary at the moment. -[[User:BobTheZombie|BobTheZombie]] ([[User talk:BobTheZombie|talk]]) 15:27, 6 February 2014 (PST)
  
 
==Hermes II==
 
==Hermes II==
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I am sorry to report that turning instances of "Battle Armor" in a title to lowercase was all wrong. For some reason I did not use an ounce of my brain when doing that and am sorry to have started that. Normally everything except articles (a, an, the) are capitalized in titles, but I forgot everything in an effort to work as hard as possible. I'll go ahead and revert all of them, but just be sure to in the future make articles with Battle Armor (and for that matter, Aerospace Fighter and Conventional Fighter) in the name capitalized. -[[User:BobTheZombie|BobTheZombie]] ([[User talk:BobTheZombie|talk]]) 14:35, 20 August 2014 (PDT)
 
I am sorry to report that turning instances of "Battle Armor" in a title to lowercase was all wrong. For some reason I did not use an ounce of my brain when doing that and am sorry to have started that. Normally everything except articles (a, an, the) are capitalized in titles, but I forgot everything in an effort to work as hard as possible. I'll go ahead and revert all of them, but just be sure to in the future make articles with Battle Armor (and for that matter, Aerospace Fighter and Conventional Fighter) in the name capitalized. -[[User:BobTheZombie|BobTheZombie]] ([[User talk:BobTheZombie|talk]]) 14:35, 20 August 2014 (PDT)
 
:Not a problem, I'll keep that in mind for the future, thanks. [[User:LittleWolf|LittleWolf]] ([[User talk:LittleWolf|talk]]) 11:56, 21 August 2014 (PDT)
 
:Not a problem, I'll keep that in mind for the future, thanks. [[User:LittleWolf|LittleWolf]] ([[User talk:LittleWolf|talk]]) 11:56, 21 August 2014 (PDT)
 
==Thanks==
 
Hi, thanks for your minor update of the [[Communications System]] page, i hope you add more content to the page, and i give your second [[File:SubAdd 1bol.jpg|Substantial Addition Award, 2nd ribbon]]  award.--[[User:Doneve|Doneve]] ([[User talk:Doneve|talk]]) 11:27, 14 April 2015 (PDT)
 
:Thanks! [[User:LittleWolf|LittleWolf]] ([[User talk:LittleWolf|talk]]) 11:36, 14 April 2015 (PDT)
 
 
==Present tense vs. past tense in articles==
 
Hi, in reference to your recent edits to the [[Excalibur (DropShip class)]] article, I notice you changed the text into past tense. While I admit this wiki doesn't have a proper policy about the issue in place, my understanding is that Sarna doesn't have a timeline viewpoint or "current" timeline. I think we're only writing characters and event articles in past tense because characters die and events pass; by contrast, designs (like 'Mech, vehicle, DropShip, etc.) are covered in the present tense because their stats and descriptions will never become a thing of the past. [[User:Frabby|Frabby]] ([[User talk:Frabby|talk]]) 02:15, 27 April 2015 (PDT)
 
:While I'll try to keep that in mind in the future, undoubtedly many designs do go through changes, switch "hands" between groups, and otherwise experience history in general.  It's hard to describe something in a "timeless" sense when for example it started being built during one period by one manufacturer, then production stopped some years later, only to be restarted in a different time period by a third party.  I suppose we could have different tenses for different part of an article.[[User:LittleWolf|LittleWolf]] ([[User talk:LittleWolf|talk]]) 10:58, 27 April 2015 (PDT)
 
::I've gone with the standard of keeping everything in the past tense because we're always writing from the point of view of the "current" time, which will be ever evolving as they continue the timeline. It helps keep things simpler when you have all the articles consistent, and I've been told to write everything in the past tense. As I understand it, it's meant to be a "historical" look at things, so it makes sense that everything should be in the past tense. Additionally, everything will be easier if you have it in the past tense because then you don't need to worry about updating the grammar of every page that has new information added to it. That's just my two cents, but from what I remember, I was explicitly told by someone to only use past tense. -[[User:BobTheZombie|BobTheZombie]] ([[User talk:BobTheZombie|talk]]) 17:58, 27 April 2015 (PDT)
 
:::Like I said, we don't have a proper policy on this - probably because there doesn't seem to be user consensus on the issue. Me, I'm a proponent of a timeless OOC wiki (why write "the ''Locust'' was a 20-ton 'Mech when a ''Locust'' will never cease to be a 20-ton 'Mech design?) as opposed to... uh... Revanche I think who was of the opinion that Sarna should be sort of an IC document looking back from whatever is the most advanced point in the BT timeline.<br />Perhaps we should seek to find a user consensus and draw up a policy or style guide after all. And no, I'm not proposing this now because Revanche isn't active anymore. ;) [[User:Frabby|Frabby]] ([[User talk:Frabby|talk]]) 08:51, 28 April 2015 (PDT)
 
::::I've always worked from the assumption that everything should be written in the past tense - I'd write "the ''Locust'' was a 20-ton 'Mech" because in that instance, it may be that the ''Locust'' went out of production and the design died off as a result. I'm not sure where I picked up the assumption that everything should be in past tense, but most likely from someone here correcting me on the issue, given that this is the first wiki I've worked on. [[User:BrokenMnemonic|BrokenMnemonic]] ([[User talk:BrokenMnemonic|talk]]) 09:00, 28 April 2015 (PDT)
 
:::::I know some other wikis also go with a past tense, and a few I believe are present tense, but perhaps then it is time to have an official policy made for Sarna, via user consensus, about which tense to use? [[User:LittleWolf|LittleWolf]] ([[User talk:LittleWolf|talk]]) 16:25, 29 April 2015 (PDT)
 
::::::I agree with BrokenMnemonic on this, but think that we should come to consensus and set it in stone before moving forward. I could make a quick little google survey if you'd like. -[[User:BobTheZombie|BobTheZombie]] ([[User talk:BobTheZombie|talk]]) 16:40, 29 April 2015 (PDT)
 
:::::::A survey sounds like a good idea, but I think we first have to determine what the questions/options really are that we want to decide. Also, I wonder if Nic Jansma should have a say in this as he's the site owner and Sarna BattleTechWiki bureaucrat. And finally, I think we should perhaps move this discussion to the Sarna forum. Unfortunately I have very little time myself right now; you guys get the ball rolling and I'll be joining the discussion next week. [[User:Frabby|Frabby]] ([[User talk:Frabby|talk]]) 04:40, 30 April 2015 (PDT)
 
::::::::I'll be sure to contact Nic and see what he says. On moving it to the forum, I think that we should rather keep it on the front page of the wiki in the minor news section; then whoever sees it (usually editors/interested readers) can take the survey. I'll try getting a rough outline of it up later in the week, but I'm also going to be busy... -[[User:BobTheZombie|BobTheZombie]] ([[User talk:BobTheZombie|talk]]) 06:16, 30 April 2015 (PDT)
 
:::::::::One thing to consider: if everything's written in the past tense, then everything is always in the correct tense. If articles start in the present tense but then the information becomes historical, because the design dies out, the time period advances, etc, then the page is effectively in the wrong tense, and would need to be updated. Speaking as someone updating 3,500 planet articles, that kind of update is either not going to get done or is going to be a massive pain for whichever poor sod has to do it. [[User:BrokenMnemonic|BrokenMnemonic]] ([[User talk:BrokenMnemonic|talk]]) 14:19, 2 May 2015 (PDT)
 
:::::::::::I have to agree, with BrokenMnemonic, the "past tense" makes more sense for in-universe writer's pureview on how Sarna.net is written.  The universe is alive and timeline hasn't stopped at one particular time for so long that it never changes.  Field Manual: 3145 is written from view of named year 3145, not 3025.  As long as there publisher who supports the current universe, everything will eventually become the past. -- [[User:Wrangler|Wrangler]] ([[User talk:Wrangler|talk]]) 04:35, 6 May 2015 (PDT)
 
::::::::::::Sorry for the long delay; I made a short [https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1b9mvBOCMJDOacnTujvB97VzeaJJvlo57gAVqQY52e8k/viewform survey]. Tell me if you think any of the wording should be changed. -[[User:BobTheZombie|BobTheZombie]] ([[User talk:BobTheZombie|talk]]) 22:21, 23 May 2015 (PDT)
 
:::::::::::::Perfect, thanks Bob.  Let's put that as a link on the front page in the news section, and create a Forums post about it. [[User:Nicjansma|Nicjansma]] ([[User talk:Nicjansma|talk]]) 19:17, 24 June 2015 (PDT)
 
::::::::::::::I started a forum thread [http://www.sarna.net/forums/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/177827/an/0/page/0#177827 here]. [[User:Frabby|Frabby]] ([[User talk:Frabby|talk]]) 07:34, 2 July 2015 (PDT)
 
:::::::::::::::Responded. Also, if you could put a link to the survey on the front page's "Minor News" section, that would be great. Thanks! -[[User:BobTheZombie|BobTheZombie]] ([[User talk:BobTheZombie|talk]]) 11:14, 2 July 2015 (PDT)
 
 
Hiya, just wondering... you seem to have made the same changes to article tense in your recent workover of the ''[[Archer]]'' article? [[User:Frabby|Frabby]] ([[User talk:Frabby|talk]]) 00:39, 14 December 2015 (PST)
 
 
== Radstadt ==
 
 
LittleWolf - Impressive start on the Battle of Radstadt article. Question - Did you want to use the Conflict Infobox? You can find examples from [[Battle of Twycross]] and other articles. [[User:ClanWolverine101|ClanWolverine101]] ([[User talk:ClanWolverine101|talk]]) 20:27, 13 November 2015 (PST)
 
:Thank you.  I probably won't at this time, but may try and incorporate it at a later date once everything is settled.[[User:LittleWolf|LittleWolf]] ([[User talk:LittleWolf|talk]]) 10:39, 14 November 2015 (PST)
 
::Understood. I look forward to seeing the finished work. [[User:ClanWolverine101|ClanWolverine101]] ([[User talk:ClanWolverine101|talk]]) 11:23, 14 November 2015 (PST)
 
 
==Combined Proofreading Efforts==
 
I came up with an idea on [[User talk:WarDog Mike#Feedback: Great House articles|WarDog Mike's user talk page]] to go through and proofread/reformat the most visited pages, because they should be at the top of our priorities (mostly because they're the first impression people get of Sarna), but some of them are pretty shabby. I know you guys (and myself included) like to float around proofreading whatever page you stumble upon instead of being told which ones to do, but I think that you, me and the other active proofreaders need to go through [[Special:PopularPages|this list]] and make sure that these pages are up to par on grammar, formatting, linkage, and all that jazz. I don't know what you are busy with project-wise or how much free time you have, but it's an idea. What do you think? -[[User:BobTheZombie|BobTheZombie]] ([[User talk:BobTheZombie|talk]]) 13:59, 30 November 2015 (PST)
 
:Not a problem, when I have a chance I can give those a closer look and make sure at least spelling/grammar-wise they're okay.[[User:LittleWolf|LittleWolf]] ([[User talk:LittleWolf|talk]]) 10:08, 5 December 2015 (PST)
 
::Sweet, thanks! I still don't know how exactly we're going to organize this (I'll have an opening in my schedule in a week or two). In the meantime, feel free to work on whatever or even start on the list if you want. P.S. I can worry about formatting, links, and organization and follow after you guys if you want; just a thought. -[[User:BobTheZombie|BobTheZombie]] ([[User talk:BobTheZombie|talk]]) 12:46, 5 December 2015 (PST)
 
:::Sorry for my delay in getting back to you guys on this idea; I started a page [[User:BobTheZombie/Proofreading List|here]]. Let's get started! -[[User:BobTheZombie|BobTheZombie]] ([[User talk:BobTheZombie|talk]]) 17:50, 28 December 2015 (PST)
 
 
==Warhammer Article==
 
Hi Littlewolf, you did a great job updating the article and adding details that have been missed by our fellow editors. I am bestowing you with the Third Substantial Article Award! [[File:SubAdd 3bol.jpg|Substantial Addition Award, 4th ribbon]] Congratulations and thank you! -- [[User:Wrangler|Wrangler]] ([[User talk:Wrangler|talk]]) 14:26, 27 December 2015 (PST)
 
:Thank you [[User:LittleWolf|LittleWolf]] ([[User talk:LittleWolf|talk]]) 14:34, 27 December 2015 (PST)
 
 
==Siren Stats==
 
Hey, I noticed you changed some stuff in the infobox from "standard" to a certain weight and the engine type to the engine weight. After comparing it to some other ProtoMechs, it looks like those stats in particular should have stayed the same (all the other changes looked good). I think it's assumed that you can explain those exact numbers in the fluff, but the infobox is for what ''type'' of parts are being used, not the specific weight. I hope that clarifies things. -[[User:BobTheZombie|BobTheZombie]] ([[User talk:BobTheZombie|talk]]) 08:16, 4 June 2016 (PDT)
 
:All Protos use the same type of components, which sorta renders any point in listing them moot.  Weight at least allows for a bit more comparison, but I will leave it as is going forward. [[User:LittleWolf|LittleWolf]] ([[User talk:LittleWolf|talk]]) 08:23, 4 June 2016 (PDT)
 
::Ah, okay, that makes a lot more sense. Thanks for explaining -[[User:BobTheZombie|BobTheZombie]] ([[User talk:BobTheZombie|talk]]) 08:45, 4 June 2016 (PDT)
 
 
== Successor States ==
 
 
LittleWolf - Impressive work on the [[Successor States]]. One question - how did you determine "Notable Personalities"? Thanks. [[User:ClanWolverine101|ClanWolverine101]] ([[User talk:ClanWolverine101|talk]]) 00:53, 27 June 2016 (PDT)
 
:Thanks, the Great House pages themselves need major touch-ups though.  As for NPs, I limited to the 31st C. leaders and those very close to them/major story roles/etc.  Don't need every single family member since there's already a category for them.[[User:LittleWolf|LittleWolf]] ([[User talk:LittleWolf|talk]]) 11:52, 1 July 2016 (PDT)
 
 
==Eagle currency==
 
Hi, thanks to add this great article, i want to uploade images to the article is this ok for you?--[[User:Doneve|Doneve]] ([[User talk:Doneve|talk]]) 14:19, 28 December 2016 (PST)
 
:Go for it! [[User:LittleWolf|LittleWolf]] ([[User talk:LittleWolf|talk]]) 14:21, 28 December 2016 (PST)
 
 
==ComStar and Word of Blake military structure==
 
Hi, I just wanted to point out a problem with [[ComStar/Word of Blake military structure]] - namely that using a slash "/" character in an article name creates a subdirectory to the article in front of the slash. That's... messy, with regards to the article structure we're maintaining here. Can you rename the article, or merge it into articles for existing militaries such as the [[Com Guards]] or [[Word of Blake Militia]]? [[User:Frabby|Frabby]] ([[User talk:Frabby|talk]]) 06:50, 27 May 2017 (EDT)
 
:Moved to the [[ComStar military structure]] page, didn't realize it already existed :) [[User:LittleWolf|LittleWolf]] ([[User talk:LittleWolf|talk]]) 14:55, 10 June 2017 (EDT)
 

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