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Line 163: ==Disambiguation: (DropShip) vs. (DropShip class)== ==Disambiguation: (DropShip) vs. (DropShip class)== − Hi Rev, I'm confused: Why did you move [[Lee (DropShip class)]] over to [[Lee (DropShip)]]? We deliberately chose to spell out the disambiguation ten years or so ago because simply (DropShip) isn’t clear enough - it could refer to an individual DropShip or a whole class. That’s why simply (DropShip) was deprecated in favor of the more precise (DropShip class), and I made an effort to move articles and redirects accordingly and update links. Same for other ship types etc., except for special outlier cases like the [[Erinyes (Individual WarShip)]] which happens to be a one-off individual ship eponymous for its class yet still requiring disambiguation. + Hi Rev, I'm confused: Why did you move [[Lee (DropShip class)]] over to [[Lee (DropShip)]]? We deliberately chose to spell out the disambiguation ten years or so ago because simply (DropShip) isn’t clear enough - it could refer to an individual DropShip or a whole class. That’s why simply (DropShip) was deprecated in favor of the more precise (DropShip class), and I made an effort to move articles and redirects accordingly and update links. Same for other ship types etc., except for special outlier cases like the [[Erinyes (WarShip)]] which happens to be a one-off individual ship eponymous for its class yet still requiring disambiguation. Same about the Tigress small craft. [[User:Frabby|Frabby]] ([[User talk:Frabby|talk]]) 14:42, 2 July 2022 (EDT) Same about the Tigress small craft. [[User:Frabby|Frabby]] ([[User talk:Frabby|talk]]) 14:42, 2 July 2022 (EDT) Line 319:
Line 319: : A1: Any instances found of either term ("Aerospace Fighter"/"AeroSpace Fighter") or capitalization of related words (ex: "Aerospace", "Fighter", "Pilot") should absolutely be corrected. There is just no reliable manner in which to track group progress, now that all linked uses of those terms are eradicated. Feel free to hunt 'em down. : A1: Any instances found of either term ("Aerospace Fighter"/"AeroSpace Fighter") or capitalization of related words (ex: "Aerospace", "Fighter", "Pilot") should absolutely be corrected. There is just no reliable manner in which to track group progress, now that all linked uses of those terms are eradicated. Feel free to hunt 'em down. − : A2: No, that is simply what I'm personally working on. Help in eradicating mis-use of that term is, of course, appreciated, as it is on all improperly-capitalized words & terms. However, Sarna was in error to have a policy statement where "AeroSpace Fighter" (''et al'') was the "preferred" term, in light of CGL's completely opposite position. We felt having the ASF Campaign was the best way to put a complete stop to it on Sarna. There may be future campaigns announced, as Sarna is working with CGL to update our [[BattleTechWiki:Manual of Style|Manual of Style]]. + : A2: No, that is simply what I'm personally working on. Help in eradicating mis-use of that term is, of course, appreciated, as it is on all improperly-capitalized words & terms. However, Sarna was in error to have a policy statement where "AeroSpace Fighter" (''et al'') was the "preferred" term, in light of CGL's completely opposite position. We felt having the ASF Campaign was the best way to put a complete stop to it on Sarna. There may be future campaigns announced, as Sarna is working with CGL to update our [[Policy:Manual of Style|Manual of Style]]. : Good questions. --[[User:Revanche|Revanche]] <sup>([[User_talk:Revanche|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Revanche|contribs]])</sup> 09:20, 12 August 2022 (EDT) : Good questions. --[[User:Revanche|Revanche]] <sup>([[User_talk:Revanche|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Revanche|contribs]])</sup> 09:20, 12 August 2022 (EDT) Line 329:
Line 329: * I participated a lot in the first few days of the campaign, so putting my name here. [[User:SilverCyanide|SilverCyanide]]. * I participated a lot in the first few days of the campaign, so putting my name here. [[User:SilverCyanide|SilverCyanide]]. : Indeed. CHECK--[[User:Revanche|Revanche]] <sup>([[User_talk:Revanche|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Revanche|contribs]])</sup> 09:29, 12 August 2022 (EDT) : Indeed. CHECK--[[User:Revanche|Revanche]] <sup>([[User_talk:Revanche|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Revanche|contribs]])</sup> 09:29, 12 August 2022 (EDT) − − == Design Quirks redirects == − − Design Quirks should probably be renamed Design Quirk but I don't have permission to rename all the redirects automatically if I move the page. Could you give it a go? [[User:Madness Divine|Madness Divine]] ([[User talk:Madness Divine|talk]]) 09:49, 26 August 2022 (EDT) − − : Could you please link me to an example you'd like changed? --[[User:Revanche|Revanche]] <sup>([[User_talk:Revanche|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Revanche|contribs]])</sup> 09:51, 26 August 2022 (EDT) − − :: Sorry, I think I misworded that. Here's the message: ''To also modify links to this page in other pages, go to Special:ReplaceText.'' I don't have permission to do that. I lost track of how many pages have Design Quirks links which would now link to the new redirect. Or maybe I'm seeing a problem that isn't really there. [[User:Madness Divine|Madness Divine]] ([[User talk:Madness Divine|talk]]) 10:00, 26 August 2022 (EDT) − − ::: I still need an example of where that change would take place, as [[Special:ReplaceText]] is extremely easy to massively screw up hundreds of pages at a time. Seeing your present example would give me context in which to limit that tool. --[[User:Revanche|Revanche]] <sup>([[User_talk:Revanche|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Revanche|contribs]])</sup> 10:03, 26 August 2022 (EDT) − − :::: [[Anti-Aircraft Targeting]] is an example; redirect code is <nowiki>#REDIRECT[[Design Quirks#Anti-Aircraft Targeting.5BBT.2C_AS.2C_SBF.5D]]</nowiki>. I don't know how many of these DQ redirects there are, just that there are more than when I first looked at the task months ago and put it on the really back burner. Looks like Wrangler took a run through fixing them in February. [[User:Madness Divine|Madness Divine]] ([[User talk:Madness Divine|talk]]) 10:17, 26 August 2022 (EDT) − − ::::: That's a very good example. Thank you. This might be tricky. I need to consider the permutations. I'll let you know. --[[User:Revanche|Revanche]] <sup>([[User_talk:Revanche|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Revanche|contribs]])</sup> 10:23, 26 August 2022 (EDT) − − :::::: <strike>Can you meet me on Discord? --[[User:Revanche|Revanche]] <sup>([[User_talk:Revanche|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Revanche|contribs]])</sup> 10:26, 26 August 2022 (EDT)</strike> − :::::: I detailed my analysis to you in a Discord DM.--[[User:Revanche|Revanche]] <sup>([[User_talk:Revanche|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Revanche|contribs]])</sup> 10:45, 26 August 2022 (EDT) − − == Is it appropriate to have notes when BattleTech references are actually incorrect compared to real life? == − − Hi, I didn't see an Policy that addresses the following topic. − − I noticed that the articles concerning DCMS ranks say that the symbols are ''katakana'', presumably because that's what BattleTech canon (FM: DC, House Kurita Sourcebook, etc) actually say. − − However, the symbols that BattleTech canon actually uses is ''kanji'', not ''katakana''....if one needs a real world reference, this should suffice: https://www.fluentin3months.com/japanese-numbers/#kanjinumbersinjapanese11trillion − − * Question 1: Assuming that BattleTech canon sources actually do say ''katakana'', is it appropriate to correct BattleTech canon when the canon sources themselves are actually incorrect compared to real life sources? − * Question 2: If question 1 is yes, what would be the preferred way to correct the article references, use Notes to record the inaccuracy or just edit out the canon article text that conflicts with the real world? − − As an example of Notes method, please see how I updated [[Senior Master Chief Petty Officer]] − − [[Special:Contributions/75.23.228.139|75.23.228.139]] 12:52, 26 August 2022 (EDT) − − : I've run across a few such notes on other pages with similar errors, if that helps. [[User:Madness Divine|Madness Divine]] ([[User talk:Madness Divine|talk]]) 12:56, 26 August 2022 (EDT) − − :: I prefer the use of notes, also, to address the incongruities. Rarely do we have the manpower and focus to defend over years differences between what is said in canon and what Sarna ''believes'' should be said. Notes, at the least, address it and allow the tangent to be addressed.--[[User:Revanche|Revanche]] <sup>([[User_talk:Revanche|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Revanche|contribs]])</sup> 13:07, 26 August 2022 (EDT) − − As an aside, the BattleTech canon discrepancy between ''katakana'' and ''kanji'' isn't limited to DCMS ranks. I vaguely remember a particularly egregious example in either House Kurita Sourcebook or one of the MechWarrior RPG books about a soldier having "konji" on their uniform, when in reality, it was ''katakana'' (and poorly transcribed kana at that). I'm keeping an eye out for that on BTW. [[Special:Contributions/75.23.228.139|75.23.228.139]] 13:48, 26 August 2022 (EDT) − − == [[Steve Venters]] == − − Hi Revanche, I was wondering if you knew of a way we could contact Steve Venters. His work has been getting attention among the [[MechWarrior 5: Mercenaries]] Community with Clan Heavy Omnimech mods heavily based on his original TRO 3050 illustrations. His page on the BTW is very bare, and I'd love to see it get the same treatment as I was able to give to [[Ashley Watkins]]' page. After all, he designed the way the [[Timber Wolf (Mad Cat)]] looks! I have no idea if he's still alive - it would be cool to get Sean to do an interview with him like he did with [[Matt Plog]].--[[User:Beemer|Beemer]] ([[User talk:Beemer|talk]]) 12:26, 2 January 2023 (EST) − :I've been looking for a firm online presence for him on-and-off for a while now, without much luck. He's possibly the president/general contractor of a construction company in North Carolina, but I haven't been able to confirm. Same person is on LinkedIn as an art distributor in the 90's.--[[User:Cache|Cache]] ([[User talk:Cache|talk]]) 13:19, 2 January 2023 (EST) − ::Hah! I checked LinkedIn this morning and found the same stuff! I'll ask in a few more places to see if I can get any leads.--[[User:Beemer|Beemer]] ([[User talk:Beemer|talk]]) 13:57, 2 January 2023 (EST)
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==Disambiguation: (DropShip) vs. (DropShip class)== | ==Disambiguation: (DropShip) vs. (DropShip class)== | ||
| − | Hi Rev, I'm confused: Why did you move [[Lee (DropShip class)]] over to [[Lee (DropShip)]]? We deliberately chose to spell out the disambiguation ten years or so ago because simply (DropShip) isn’t clear enough - it could refer to an individual DropShip or a whole class. That’s why simply (DropShip) was deprecated in favor of the more precise (DropShip class), and I made an effort to move articles and redirects accordingly and update links. Same for other ship types etc., except for special outlier cases like the [[Erinyes ( | + | Hi Rev, I'm confused: Why did you move [[Lee (DropShip class)]] over to [[Lee (DropShip)]]? We deliberately chose to spell out the disambiguation ten years or so ago because simply (DropShip) isn’t clear enough - it could refer to an individual DropShip or a whole class. That’s why simply (DropShip) was deprecated in favor of the more precise (DropShip class), and I made an effort to move articles and redirects accordingly and update links. Same for other ship types etc., except for special outlier cases like the [[Erinyes (WarShip)]] which happens to be a one-off individual ship eponymous for its class yet still requiring disambiguation. |
Same about the Tigress small craft. [[User:Frabby|Frabby]] ([[User talk:Frabby|talk]]) 14:42, 2 July 2022 (EDT) | Same about the Tigress small craft. [[User:Frabby|Frabby]] ([[User talk:Frabby|talk]]) 14:42, 2 July 2022 (EDT) | ||
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: A1: Any instances found of either term ("Aerospace Fighter"/"AeroSpace Fighter") or capitalization of related words (ex: "Aerospace", "Fighter", "Pilot") should absolutely be corrected. There is just no reliable manner in which to track group progress, now that all linked uses of those terms are eradicated. Feel free to hunt 'em down. | : A1: Any instances found of either term ("Aerospace Fighter"/"AeroSpace Fighter") or capitalization of related words (ex: "Aerospace", "Fighter", "Pilot") should absolutely be corrected. There is just no reliable manner in which to track group progress, now that all linked uses of those terms are eradicated. Feel free to hunt 'em down. | ||
| − | : A2: No, that is simply what I'm personally working on. Help in eradicating mis-use of that term is, of course, appreciated, as it is on all improperly-capitalized words & terms. However, Sarna was in error to have a policy statement where "AeroSpace Fighter" (''et al'') was the "preferred" term, in light of CGL's completely opposite position. We felt having the ASF Campaign was the best way to put a complete stop to it on Sarna. There may be future campaigns announced, as Sarna is working with CGL to update our [[ | + | : A2: No, that is simply what I'm personally working on. Help in eradicating mis-use of that term is, of course, appreciated, as it is on all improperly-capitalized words & terms. However, Sarna was in error to have a policy statement where "AeroSpace Fighter" (''et al'') was the "preferred" term, in light of CGL's completely opposite position. We felt having the ASF Campaign was the best way to put a complete stop to it on Sarna. There may be future campaigns announced, as Sarna is working with CGL to update our [[Policy:Manual of Style|Manual of Style]]. |
: Good questions. --[[User:Revanche|Revanche]] <sup>([[User_talk:Revanche|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Revanche|contribs]])</sup> 09:20, 12 August 2022 (EDT) | : Good questions. --[[User:Revanche|Revanche]] <sup>([[User_talk:Revanche|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Revanche|contribs]])</sup> 09:20, 12 August 2022 (EDT) | ||
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* I participated a lot in the first few days of the campaign, so putting my name here. [[User:SilverCyanide|SilverCyanide]]. | * I participated a lot in the first few days of the campaign, so putting my name here. [[User:SilverCyanide|SilverCyanide]]. | ||
: Indeed. CHECK--[[User:Revanche|Revanche]] <sup>([[User_talk:Revanche|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Revanche|contribs]])</sup> 09:29, 12 August 2022 (EDT) | : Indeed. CHECK--[[User:Revanche|Revanche]] <sup>([[User_talk:Revanche|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Revanche|contribs]])</sup> 09:29, 12 August 2022 (EDT) | ||
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