Editing Talk:Warhammer

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==Project Phoenix Models==

There isnt any need to list the PP models seperately from the other models as they are all varaints of the Warhammer. I changed the page back to the proper format.--[[User:CJKeys|CJKeys]] 21:11, 30 November 2006 (CST)

== WHM-6D irregularities ==
[http://sarna.net/wiki/index.php?title=Warhammer&diff=16355&oldid=15553 This diff.] strikes me as odd, it seems that neither the original nor the altered version are correct. Isn't the WHM-6D a 2x PPC, 2x ML, 2x SL variant? (Source: [http://www.solaris7.com/TRO/HTMLBattleMech/BattleMechInfo.asp?ID=574 TRO of the WHM-6R and it's variants, from Solaris 7]) As always, I'll bow to other's superior knowledge to canon 'Mechs. --[[User:Xoid|Xoid]] 01:12, 24 January 2007 (CST)
:Checked it through HMP, dont know how I missed that. --[[User:CJKeys|CJKeys]] 09:05, 24 January 2007 (CST)
::Heh, don't worry. When you do enough of any one thing you'll eventually slip up. I've made thousands of templates yet I can still mung them up with the best of 'em. ;-) --[[User:Xoid|Xoid]] 20:30, 26 January 2007 (CST)

== Dual Cockpit variant ==
Where does this come from? I don't know of any canon variants of this dual cockpit variant. -- [[User:Wrangler|Wrangler]] 01:35, 12 August 2009 (UTC)
: [[MechWarrior Companion]] pg 52. Pretty much the bulk of the [[Dual Cockpit]] page on BTW comes from the Companion. [[User:Cyc|Cyc]] 13:47, 12 August 2009 (UTC) 

==Similar imagines of Robotech/Battletech Mechs==

Has anyone else noticed the similarities between the illustration of the WHM-6R and the Destroid Tomahawk of Robotech fame? [http://www.robotech.com/infopedia/mecha/viewmecha.php?id=17] --[[User:OneUseOnly|OneUseOnly]] 16:31, 1 September 2009 (UTC)
::Thats because they own the copy right of the original imagine of the Tomahawk Destroid. FASA got the their license for Macross Mech from same "company" as Harmony Gold. Thus, they are one in the same 'Mech. I'm not sure if their allow to use exact picture done FASA itself, but they can use the imagines. -- [[User:Wrangler|Wrangler]] 17:41, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

==Too Many Images==
IMO there are too many images on this article, too cluttered, too messy, crowding out the text which is the reason for its existence. [[User:Cyc|Cyc]] 10:37, 7 March 2010 (UTC)
:I agree, the first image in the top left corner should go as well as the image in the armament section. It sort of ruins the format for mech pages and clogs up the page heaps. --[[User:Mop no more|Mop no more]] 11:18, 7 March 2010 (UTC)

:'''Concur'''. I hold the philosophy that pictures should only be added below the infoxbox (when displayed). If the pictures wish to be tetained, a gallery of Warhammer pictures can be created and linked to on the article. In fact, I'll be bold and do just that.--[[User:Revanche|Revanche]] <sup>([[User_talk:Revanche|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Revanche|contribs]])</sup> 12:26, 7 March 2010 (UTC)
::Fits just as well in their own section on the article! --[[User:Revanche|Revanche]] <sup>([[User_talk:Revanche|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Revanche|contribs]])</sup> 12:32, 7 March 2010 (UTC)

==''Warhammer C''==

I added the details of the ''Warhammer C'' from [[The Battle for Twycross]] scenario pack.  I explicitly included the details of the source for this design, as I realize these designs have not appeared often, and their canonicity could be considered questionable.  The inclusion of this design is strictly informational, and can be removed if considered too controversial.--[[User:S.gage|S.gage]] 02:54, 1 May 2010 (UTC)

Anyone got info on the -10T? All I know is that it's a variant that moves 5/8/7.

== Historical Turning Points mallory's world ==

I've removed the update needed tag for Historical Turning Points Mallory's World. The Warhammer described there is a WHM-6K variant, which is already described in the article.--[[User:Mbear|Mbear]] 20:44, 1 June 2011 (UTC)

== The Lich ==

Shouldn't the Lich receive its own page? {{unsigned|77.0.79.194|on 2 June 2011}}
: Not sure about that. It *IS* the same chasis. [[User:ClanWolverine101|ClanWolverine101]] 08:58, 2 June 2011 (UTC)
:: Yes, but so would be the Temax Cat Ninjabolt (Thunderbolt) and the Schwerer Gustav (Annihilator). It only uses a Warhammer torso and rips everything else from other units.
::: I would say no to this, due to fact the Lich doesn't have much of a write up for it aside from XTRO info.  The variant, WHD-10CT is basically considered a production version of it. -- [[User:Wrangler|Wrangler]] ([[User talk:Wrangler|talk]]) 13:06, 26 October 2015 (PDT)
:::: The ''[[Thug]]'' and ''[[Hatamoto-Chi]]'' share the same chassis and have nearly identical design specs, yet they have separate entries. I think it is time to split the ''Lich'' off into its own page. There is enough info for a full entry.--[[User:Cache|Cache]] ([[User talk:Cache|talk]]) 07:40, 29 October 2015 (PDT)
:::::I would be in favour of splitting it off.--[[User:Dmon|Dmon]] ([[User talk:Dmon|talk]]) 14:57, 29 October 2015 (PDT)
::::::Thug and Hatamoto were intended to be separate 'Mechs, but the Litch was just a fancy name for a Warhammer variant prototype, the Litch entry shows that Starcorps was fully behind its development.[[User:Cyc|Cyc]] ([[User talk:Cyc|talk]]) 15:10, 29 October 2015 (PDT)

== Classics images ==
Now that the first of the reimagined 'mechs have been published on the MUL (by my count, the Warhammer, Locust, Marauder, Shadow Hawk and OstScout), and they are explicitly stated to retcon out the old Unseen designs, is it time to add the new art to the article? --[[Special:Contributions/216.52.210.36|216.52.210.36]] 10:32, 26 October 2015 (PDT)
::I'm not the admin, I'm only editor.  However usually Sarna.net needs to wait until a published canon book (like [[Combat Manual: Mercenaries]]) comes out.  Sarna needs wait until a published source comes out moratorium expires for legal reasons.  Until, then old image will remain like all the rest unless admins want to make that call. -- [[User:Wrangler|Wrangler]] ([[User talk:Wrangler|talk]]) 13:09, 26 October 2015 (PDT)
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 :::: The ''[[Thug]]'' and ''[[Hatamoto-Chi]]'' share the same chassis and have nearly identical design specs, yet they have separate entries. I think it is time to split the ''Lich'' off into its own page. There is enough info for a full entry.--[[User:Cache|Cache]] ([[User talk:Cache|talk]]) 07:40, 29 October 2015 (PDT)
 :::::I would be in favour of splitting it off.--[[User:Dmon|Dmon]] ([[User talk:Dmon|talk]]) 14:57, 29 October 2015 (PDT)
-::::::Thug and Hatamoto were intended to be separate 'Mechs, but the Lich was just a fancy name for a Warhammer variant prototype, the Litch entry shows that Starcorps was fully behind its development.[[User:Cyc|Cyc]] ([[User talk:Cyc|talk]]) 15:10, 29 October 2015 (PDT)
+::::::Thug and Hatamoto were intended to be separate 'Mechs, but the Litch was just a fancy name for a Warhammer variant prototype, the Litch entry shows that Starcorps was fully behind its development.[[User:Cyc|Cyc]] ([[User talk:Cyc|talk]]) 15:10, 29 October 2015 (PDT)
-:::::::The way the the write up is written in the XTRO it states that the arms are from a MAD-5R. The legs is a bit more vague. If it said the arms where "copies of" or had their "design based upon" but it says they are actually MAD arms. Thus making the lich a frankenmech for testing purposes not a ground up prototype. I see this as grounds to count it as something different. I would even be tempted to go as far as to say that the WHD-10TC is not actually a Warhammer but possibly a Warhammer II since the chassis is a new design but that is me.--[[User:Dmon|Dmon]] ([[User talk:Dmon|talk]]) 15:52, 29 October 2015 (PDT)
-::::::::I can confirm that the legs are most definitely Nova Cat legs. That is all. -[[User:BobTheZombie|BobTheZombie]] ([[User talk:BobTheZombie|talk]]) 23:21, 29 October 2015 (PDT)
-:::::::::I think there's sufficient difference to warrant a separate article for the FrankenMech, and both articles should mention the ''Warhammer'' evolution variant that it spawned and provide plenty links back and forth. [[User:Frabby|Frabby]] ([[User talk:Frabby|talk]]) 03:16, 30 October 2015 (PDT)
 == Classics images ==
 Now that the first of the reimagined 'mechs have been published on the MUL (by my count, the Warhammer, Locust, Marauder, Shadow Hawk and OstScout), and they are explicitly stated to retcon out the old Unseen designs, is it time to add the new art to the article? --[[Special:Contributions/216.52.210.36|216.52.210.36]] 10:32, 26 October 2015 (PDT)
-:I'm not the admin, I'm only editor.  However usually Sarna.net needs to wait until a published canon book (like [[Combat Manual: Mercenaries]]) comes out.  Sarna needs wait until a published source comes out moratorium expires for legal reasons.  Until, then old image will remain like all the rest unless admins want to make that call. -- [[User:Wrangler|Wrangler]] ([[User talk:Wrangler|talk]]) 13:09, 26 October 2015 (PDT)
+::I'm not the admin, I'm only editor.  However usually Sarna.net needs to wait until a published canon book (like [[Combat Manual: Mercenaries]]) comes out.  Sarna needs wait until a published source comes out moratorium expires for legal reasons.  Until, then old image will remain like all the rest unless admins want to make that call. -- [[User:Wrangler|Wrangler]] ([[User talk:Wrangler|talk]]) 13:09, 26 October 2015 (PDT)
-::The [[MUL]] is now displaying the new art, and it is an official source. I'd say the new art is thus officially published and could be uploaded here. I just haven't come round to do it myself yet. The old (unseen) art needs to still be depicted in the article of course (in the gallery), but as the new art has been retconned in it needs to be put into the infobox. [[User:Frabby|Frabby]] ([[User talk:Frabby|talk]]) 03:16, 30 October 2015 (PDT)
-== WHM-7K Variant ==
-Was the WHM-7K Variant finally published?  For a long time it appeared to be 'apocryphal'  appearing only by reference without a readout or sheet I thought ?
-:The reference provided shows that the information comes from ''[[Record Sheets: 3085 Unabridged - Project Phoenix]]'', p. 165, which was released in 2010.--[[User:Cache|Cache]] ([[User talk:Cache|talk]]) 17:45, 18 March 2021 (EDT)