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Line 21: ===BattleCorps vs. PDF releases=== ===BattleCorps vs. PDF releases=== − Recently, CGL has begun to shift from print products to PDF releases. Not only are almost all old books now available as PDF scans, newer products tend to be released in PDF first and then get a print publication date later, often much later and sometimes not at all. The various turning points, dossiers, and XTRO series, for example, are pure PDF products. + Recently, CGL has begun to shift from print produts to PDF releases. Not only are almost all old books now available as PDF scans, newer products tend to be released in PDF first and then get a print publication date later, often much later and sometimes not at all. The various turning points, dossiers, and XTRO series, for example, are pure PDF products. This is becoming a problem for this list, as we need to re-define the parameters here. As of yet, the list treats print products as the "prime product". I am tempted, however, to change this to "whatever is released first", be that print or PDF. It also blurs the line between PDF releases and BattleCorps releases. Revanche just added two unit digests which are BattleCorps publications, not PDF releases: To get them you must have subscribed to BC; you cannot simply buy them through BattleShop like other PDF products. They don't belong on this list under current rules as outlined at the beginning of the article. I deliberately avoided including BattleCorps because we'd be facing literally hundreds of publications from that source breaking the boundaries of this product list (much like miniatures and CCG cards). That's why I originally included a "notable BC publications" section, but I fear it't going to blow out of proportions. This is becoming a problem for this list, as we need to re-define the parameters here. As of yet, the list treats print products as the "prime product". I am tempted, however, to change this to "whatever is released first", be that print or PDF. It also blurs the line between PDF releases and BattleCorps releases. Revanche just added two unit digests which are BattleCorps publications, not PDF releases: To get them you must have subscribed to BC; you cannot simply buy them through BattleShop like other PDF products. They don't belong on this list under current rules as outlined at the beginning of the article. I deliberately avoided including BattleCorps because we'd be facing literally hundreds of publications from that source breaking the boundaries of this product list (much like miniatures and CCG cards). That's why I originally included a "notable BC publications" section, but I fear it't going to blow out of proportions. Line 52:
Line 52: ::::*'''Category:BattleCorps Publications''': While sub-categories are definitely a possibility, I think most "other" (non-story) BC publications could be sorted into one catchall-article each (i.e. one article [[MilSpecs]] covering all of these updates, one article [[BattleCorps News]] covers the general issue of an ongoing canonical newsfeed with the occasional interesting bit of info - by the way, the MilSpecs are technically part of these BC news. ::::*'''Category:BattleCorps Publications''': While sub-categories are definitely a possibility, I think most "other" (non-story) BC publications could be sorted into one catchall-article each (i.e. one article [[MilSpecs]] covering all of these updates, one article [[BattleCorps News]] covers the general issue of an ongoing canonical newsfeed with the occasional interesting bit of info - by the way, the MilSpecs are technically part of these BC news. − ::::*'''Category:Short Stories & Comics''': I'm not dead set on combining these categories, but when you look at the grand total of 3 entries in the ''Comics'' category you'll probably agree that they all arguably belong into ''Short Stories'' as well. Perhaps ''Comics'' should become a subcategory of ''Short Stories'' then?+ :::*'''Category:Short Stories & Comics''': I'm not dead set on combining these categories, but when you look at the grand total of 3 entries in the ''Comics'' category you'll probably agree that they all arguably belong into ''Short Stories'' as well. Perhaps ''Comics'' should become a subcategory of ''Short Stories'' then? − ::::*'''PDF vs. Print ''': Gut feeling tells me we're going to hit a brick wall here at some point in the not too distant future. The article is already very long, it is bound to grow ever more, and the PDFs aggravate the problem. See, I like and use this list just like you, but it is already now somewhat unwieldy due to its sheer size. Sooner or later we'll just have to sort and categorize it somehow. Also, the bigger it grows with PDFs, the smaller the excuse ''not'' to include each individual miniature, CCG or BC release. See where this is going? That said, I guess we're good for another year or two. But the issue doesn't go away, and we will invariably have this discussion again at some point.+ :::*'''PDF vs. Print ''': Gut feeling tells me we're going to hit a brick wall here at some point in the not too distant future. The article is already very long, it is bound to grow ever more, and the PDFs aggravate the problem. See, I like and use this list just like you, but it is already now somewhat unwieldy due to its sheer size. Sooner or later we'll just have to sort and categorize it somehow. Also, the bigger it grows with PDFs, the smaller the excuse ''not'' to include each individual miniature, CCG or BC release. See where this is going? That said, I guess we're good for another year or two. But the issue doesn't go away, and we will invariably have this discussion again at some point. − ::::[[User:Frabby|Frabby]] 17:06, 23 November 2010 (UTC)+ :::[[User:Frabby|Frabby]] 17:06, 23 November 2010 (UTC) :::::*'''Category:BattleCorps Publications''':Not a bad idea at all (regarding catch-all articles). Why create an article for each mil-spec article? :::::*'''Category:BattleCorps Publications''':Not a bad idea at all (regarding catch-all articles). Why create an article for each mil-spec article?
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| − | Recently, CGL has begun to shift from print | + | Recently, CGL has begun to shift from print produts to PDF releases. Not only are almost all old books now available as PDF scans, newer products tend to be released in PDF first and then get a print publication date later, often much later and sometimes not at all. The various turning points, dossiers, and XTRO series, for example, are pure PDF products. |
This is becoming a problem for this list, as we need to re-define the parameters here. As of yet, the list treats print products as the "prime product". I am tempted, however, to change this to "whatever is released first", be that print or PDF. It also blurs the line between PDF releases and BattleCorps releases. Revanche just added two unit digests which are BattleCorps publications, not PDF releases: To get them you must have subscribed to BC; you cannot simply buy them through BattleShop like other PDF products. They don't belong on this list under current rules as outlined at the beginning of the article. I deliberately avoided including BattleCorps because we'd be facing literally hundreds of publications from that source breaking the boundaries of this product list (much like miniatures and CCG cards). That's why I originally included a "notable BC publications" section, but I fear it't going to blow out of proportions. | This is becoming a problem for this list, as we need to re-define the parameters here. As of yet, the list treats print products as the "prime product". I am tempted, however, to change this to "whatever is released first", be that print or PDF. It also blurs the line between PDF releases and BattleCorps releases. Revanche just added two unit digests which are BattleCorps publications, not PDF releases: To get them you must have subscribed to BC; you cannot simply buy them through BattleShop like other PDF products. They don't belong on this list under current rules as outlined at the beginning of the article. I deliberately avoided including BattleCorps because we'd be facing literally hundreds of publications from that source breaking the boundaries of this product list (much like miniatures and CCG cards). That's why I originally included a "notable BC publications" section, but I fear it't going to blow out of proportions. | ||
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::::*'''Category:BattleCorps Publications''': While sub-categories are definitely a possibility, I think most "other" (non-story) BC publications could be sorted into one catchall-article each (i.e. one article [[MilSpecs]] covering all of these updates, one article [[BattleCorps News]] covers the general issue of an ongoing canonical newsfeed with the occasional interesting bit of info - by the way, the MilSpecs are technically part of these BC news. | ::::*'''Category:BattleCorps Publications''': While sub-categories are definitely a possibility, I think most "other" (non-story) BC publications could be sorted into one catchall-article each (i.e. one article [[MilSpecs]] covering all of these updates, one article [[BattleCorps News]] covers the general issue of an ongoing canonical newsfeed with the occasional interesting bit of info - by the way, the MilSpecs are technically part of these BC news. | ||
| − | + | :::*'''Category:Short Stories & Comics''': I'm not dead set on combining these categories, but when you look at the grand total of 3 entries in the ''Comics'' category you'll probably agree that they all arguably belong into ''Short Stories'' as well. Perhaps ''Comics'' should become a subcategory of ''Short Stories'' then? | |
| − | + | :::*'''PDF vs. Print ''': Gut feeling tells me we're going to hit a brick wall here at some point in the not too distant future. The article is already very long, it is bound to grow ever more, and the PDFs aggravate the problem. See, I like and use this list just like you, but it is already now somewhat unwieldy due to its sheer size. Sooner or later we'll just have to sort and categorize it somehow. Also, the bigger it grows with PDFs, the smaller the excuse ''not'' to include each individual miniature, CCG or BC release. See where this is going? That said, I guess we're good for another year or two. But the issue doesn't go away, and we will invariably have this discussion again at some point. | |
| − | + | :::[[User:Frabby|Frabby]] 17:06, 23 November 2010 (UTC) | |
:::::*'''Category:BattleCorps Publications''':Not a bad idea at all (regarding catch-all articles). Why create an article for each mil-spec article? | :::::*'''Category:BattleCorps Publications''':Not a bad idea at all (regarding catch-all articles). Why create an article for each mil-spec article? | ||