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−	{{otheruses|a design that evolved from the original ''Griffin''|the original parent design or other uses|Griffin|Griffin (disambiguation)}}
	{{InfoBoxBattleMech		{{InfoBoxBattleMech
−	|image=Super_Griffin_GRF-2N-X_XTROSW1.jpg	+	|image=Griffin.jpg
−	|name=''Super Griffin''	+	|name=Super Griffin
	|manufacturer=none (prototype)		|manufacturer=none (prototype)
−	|model=GRF-2N-X<ref name=xtro5>''Experimental Technical Readout: Succession Wars, Volume 1'', p. 5</ref>	+	|model=GRF-2N
−	|production year=3020	+	|class=Heavy
−	|year reference=<ref>''[http://www.masterunitlist.info/Unit/Details/5771/ MUL online date for the ''{{PAGENAME}}'']''</ref>
−	|cost= 6,400,960 C-bills
−	|Tech Base=Inner Sphere
−	|mech type=BattleMech
	|mass=60		|mass=60
	|chassis=custom (prototype)		|chassis=custom (prototype)
−	|armor=Unknown	+	|armor=unknown
−	|engine=[[Core Tek 275]]	+	|engine=Core Tek 275
	|speed=64.8		|speed=64.8
−	|comsys = Unspecified	+	|jumpjets=manufacturer unknown
−	|T&T = Unspecified
−	|heat sinks=10 [[Heat Sink|single]] and 5 [[Double Heat Sink#Prototype Double Heat Sinks|experimental double]]
−	|jumpjets=Unknown
	|armament=		|armament=
−	*1x [[PPC]]	+	*1 [[PPC]]
−	*1x [[LRM-10]]	+	*1 [[LRM-10]]
−	*1x [[medium laser]]	+	*1 [[Medium Laser]]
−	*1x [[Small Laser]]<ref name=xtro5/>
	|BV (1.0)=?		|BV (1.0)=?
−	|BV (2.0)=1,310	+	|BV (2.0)=?
	}}		}}
−	==Overview==	+	==Description==
−	The GRF-2N-X '''''Super Griffin''''' is an evolution of the classic ''[[Griffin]]'', a redesign that essentially produced a new [[BattleMech]] with even a different tonnage. Using a sixty ton frame, engineers fitted [[Prototype Improved Jump Jet]]s to the 'Mech to compensate for its reduced speed.<ref name=xtro5/>	+	The GRF-2N '''''Super Griffin''''' is an evolution of the classic ''[[Griffin]]'', a re-design that essentially produced a new [[BattleMech]] with even a different tonnage (similar to the -IIC variants that the [[Clans]] created for many classic designs). While its overall weight was increased to 60 tons, meaning more powerful [[jump jet]]s are required for the 'Mech, the ''Super Griffin'' retains the CoreTek 275 [[fusion engine]] which could only provide a ground speed of 64.8 km/h for the heavier frame. To make up for this, the armor has been increased by half a ton and a [[Medium Laser]] has been added. Also, the ''Super Griffin'' mounts thirteen [[heat sink]]s (as opposed to the twelve regular heat sinks on the standard ''Griffin''), three of which are experimental [[double heat sink]]s, for a total heat dissipation capacity of 16 per turn.
		+	:''Note that the'' Super Griffin ''as described in the sourcebook is an illegal design and cannot be built under standard rules:
		+	:*''The armor allocation of 22/7 to both torso sides is illegal. Even on a 60-ton frame the 'Mech may only mount altogether 28 points of armor on any side torso location. However, the ''Super Griffin'' has one less point of armor on both arms compared to the standard ''Griffin'' on which it is based, for no apparent reason. This suggests that the armor configuration given is in error, and that the illegal armor point on the side torso locations belongs to the respective arm instead.
		+	:*''Although it is technically legal to have a mismatched engine, the'' Super Griffin ''suffers a reduction in speed due to its increased mass and may only have four jump jets (at one ton each), not nine as shown in the sourcebook. This was presumably a misprint, and supposed to read four instead; no record sheet exists to show the location, and thereby the number, of the jump jets.
		+	:*''Double heat sinks cannot normally be mixed with standard heat sinks. However, special house rules regarding experimental double heat sinks that could be substituted for regular heat sinks were provided within the [[Tales of the Black Widow Company|sourcebook for that particular campaign]].
		+	:''With thirteen heat sinks and four jump jets the 'Mech comes out at 59.5 tons and is actually 0.5 tons underweight.''
		+	:''It's also possible that since Tales of the Black Widow Company (where the Super Griffin appears) was the first scenario book published it may have been built using the original Battledroid rules. In those rules there was no restriction on how many jump jets you could mount on a mech (beyond tonnage and space) and all jump jets weighed 0.5 tons regardless of the mechs tonnage. Using those rules the Super Griffin could easily mount 9 jump jets and still be legal.
−	==Weapons and Equipment==	+	Together with the ''[[Super Wasp]]'', the ''Super Griffin'' was designed at the [[Friden Aerospace Park]] research facility on [[Hoff]] by [[House Davion]] scientists in "[[Project Phoenix]]". After eighteen months of work, an operational prototype had been completed but was yet untested when the [[Black Widow Company]] attacked the facility on 13 May [[3022]]. It was deployed as a last line of defense together with the ''Super Wasps'', and was presumably destroyed. There have been no recorded encounters with either design afterwards.
−	The ''Super Griffin'' retains the weapon configuration of the regular GRF-1N ''Griffin'', namely a [[PPC]] in the right arm and an [[LRM-10]] launcher with two tons of ammunition in the right torso. A [[medium laser]] was added to the left arm.
−	==History==	+	The ''Super Griffin'' was apparently never considered for full production, but the exact reasons for this remain unknown. (The ''[[Hatchetman]]'' which entered full production a few years later was hailed as the [[Inner Sphere]]'s first new 'Mech design in over a century, and in the [[Periphery]] the ''[[Merlin (BattleMech)|Merlin]]'' had been designed twelve years earlier already.) Since the design stretches the construction rules it could be speculated that the ''Super Griffin'''s new technology turned out to be unreliable, or otherwise unsuitable for mass production for technical or economic reasons; alternatively it could be assumed that the research results and blueprints were irrevocably lost over the course of the battles for Hoff.
−	The ''Super Griffin'' was designed in [[Introduction Year::3020]] as a part of "[[Project Phoenix]]" together with the ''[[Super Wasp]]'' at the [[Friden Aerospace Park]] research facility on [[Hoff]] by the [[Federated Suns]] scientists including Dr. [[Jorge Belasco]]. After eighteen months of work, an operational ''Super Griffin'' prototype had been completed but it was still untested when the [[Black Widow Company]] attacked the facility on 13 May [[3022]]. The ''Super Griffin'' was a testbed for prototype Improved Jump Jets and [[Prototype Double Heat Sinks]] developed by the [[NAIS]] after reviewing the [[Halstead Collection]].<ref name=xtro4>''Experimental Technical Readout: Succession Wars, Volume 1'', p. 4</ref>
−	The ''Super Griffin'' and ''Super Wasp'' were described as the first fully redesigned units in four decades, but the ''[[Hatchetman]]'' was hailed as the [[Inner Sphere]]'s first new 'Mech design in over a century when it entered full production a few years after the attack on Hoff (and in the [[Periphery]] the ''[[Merlin (BattleMech)|Merlin]]'' had been designed in [[3010]] already). This suggests the ''Super Griffin'' and ''Super Wasp'' never came beyond the prototype stage.	+	==Armament==
−		+	The ''Super Griffin'' retains the weapon configuration of the regular GRF-1N ''Griffin'', namely a [[PPC]] in the right arm and a [[LRM-10]] launcher with two tons of ammunition in the right torso. A [[Medium Laser]] was added to the left arm.
−	==Experimental Technical Readout: Succession Wars, Volume 1 variant (Legal)==
−	This design uses a standard sixty ton frame protected by ten tons of armor. The ''Super Griffin'' uses five prototype Double Heat Sinks combined with ten standard heat sinks to dissipate twenty points of heat per turn. In addition, the ground speed has been reduced to that of a ''[[Crusader]]'' or ''[[Archer]]'', but the use of six Prototype Improved Jump Jets allows it to cover 180 meters in a jump. The armament has been updated to include a single Small Laser in the torso. The armor allocation has been fixed.<ref name=xtro5/>
−
−	When the [[Black Widow Company]] attacked Hoff, the ''Super Griffin'' was deployed alongside two ''Super Wasps.'' The ''Super Griffin'' used its improved jump ability to land an attack in the rear of a ''[[Rifleman]]'', but the return fire from the ''Rifleman'' destroyed a Prototype Improved Jump Jet. This led to an explosion as the jump jets' uncontrolled ignition led the LRM ammunition being ignited. The resulting explosion destroyed the ''Super Griffin'' completely.<ref name=xtro5/>
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−	==Tales of the Black Widows Design (Illegal)==
−	While its overall weight was increased to 60 tons, necessitating a slightly heavier internal structure, the ''Super Griffin'' retains the original [[Core Tek 275]] [[fusion engine]] which could only provide a reduced ground speed of 64.8 km/h for the heavier frame. To make up for this, the 'Mech mounts 9 special [[Jump Jet]]s, giving it an unpredecented jump range of 270 meters. The armor was increased by half a ton and a medium laser was added on the left arm. Also, the ''Super Griffin'' mounts thirteen [[heat sink]]s, three of which are experimental [[Double heat sink#Double-strength heat sinks|double-strength heat sinks]], for a total heat dissipation capacity of 16 per turn, as opposed to the twelve regular heat sinks on the standard ''Griffin''.
−
−	It should be noted that the ''Super Griffin'' as described in the sourcebook is an illegal design and cannot be built under current rules:
−
−	===Jump jets===
−	According to the construction rules, the number of jump jets is limited to the walking movement points. A 60-ton 'Mech with a class 275 fusion engine like the ''Super Griffin'' would therefore only be allowed to mount four jump jets which would weigh one ton each. Even reducing the oversized engine to a fitting class 240 fusion engine would not free up enough mass to improve the jump distance further through [[Improved Jump Jet]]s (which only became available in 3069).<br>(It is technically legal to mount a mismatched fusion engine but the performance is rounded down, in this case to equal a class 240 fusion engine.)
−
−	The ''Super Griffin'', however, is said to mount nine jump jets which together weigh 4.5 tons, i.e. half a ton each. No record sheet exists to indicate the location of the jump jets.
−
−	''This allocation of jump jets does in fact conform with the original construction rules from the ''[[Battledroids]]'' game: These early rules had no limit on the number of jump jets that could be mounted, and they were always half a ton in weight irrespective of the 'Mech's tonnage. ''[[Tales of the Black Widow Company]]'', which is the source for the ''Super Griffin'' and ''Super Wasp'', was the very first sourcebook published for the franchise and was presumably written using the first draft of the construction rules; when it was published, the game had already been renamed to ''[[BattleTech]]'' and the construction rules had also changed.''
−
−	To remedy this rules violation it has been suggested to assume the ''Super Griffin'' has only four jump jets, at 1 ton each. However, this is not supported by canon sources and the reduced movement leaves the 'Mech somewhat hamstrung. It would also leave the design half a ton underweight which is technically legal.
−
−	===Mixing standard and double heat sinks===
−	[[Double heat sink]]s cannot normally be mixed with standard heat sinks. However, special house rules regarding experimental double-strength heat sinks that could be substituted for and mixed with regular heat sinks were provided within Tales of the Black Widow Company, the sourcebook for that particular campaign.
−
−	===Armor distribution===
−	The ''Super Griffin'''s armor allocation of 22/7 to both torso sides is illegal. Even on a 60-ton frame the 'Mech may only mount altogether 28 points of armor on any side torso location. However, the ''Super Griffin'' has one less point of armor on both arms compared to the standard ''Griffin'' on which it is based, for no apparent reason. This suggests that the armor configuration given is in error, and that the extra armor point on the side torso locations belongs on the respective arm instead. (The error was fixed in the version presented in ''Experimental Technical Readout: Succession Wars, Volume 1''.)
	==Variants==		==Variants==
−	None known. Although a functional prototype was built, the ''Super Griffin'', itself a variant of the ''Griffin'', apparently never advanced beyond the prototype stage.	+	None known. The ''Super Griffin'' never came beyond the prototype stage.
−
−	==Design Quirks==
−	The ''GRF-2N-X Super Griffin'' variant is subject to the following [[Design Quirks]]:<ref name=xtro5/>
−	* [[Prototype]]
−
−	The original design from Tales of the Black Widow Company is subject to the following Design Quirks:
−	* [[Illegal]] (for various reasons, see above)
−	* [[Obsolete|Obsolete\3020]]
−
−	==BattleMech Gallery==
−	<Gallery>
−	Griffin.jpg|The Original Unseen Griffin
−	</Gallery>
	==References==		==References==
−	<references/>	+	*[[Tales of the Black Widow Company]]
−
−	==Bibliography==
−	* ''[[Experimental Technical Readout: Succession Wars, Volume 1]]''
−	* ''[[Master Unit List]]''
−	* ''[[Tales of the Black Widow Company]]''
−	[[Category:'Mechs]]	+	[[Category:BattleMechs]]
		+	[[Category:Heavy BattleMechs]]
		+	[[Category:60 ton BattleMechs]]

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{{InfoBoxBattleMech |image=Griffin.jpg |name=Super Griffin |manufacturer=none (prototype) |model=GRF-2N |class=Heavy |mass=60 |chassis=custom (prototype) |armor=unknown |engine=Core Tek 275 |speed=64.8 |jumpjets=manufacturer unknown |armament= *1 [[PPC]] *1 [[LRM-10]] *1 [[Medium Laser]] |BV (1.0)=? |BV (2.0)=? }} ==Description== The GRF-2N '''''Super Griffin''''' is an evolution of the classic ''[[Griffin]]'', a re-design that essentially produced a new [[BattleMech]] with even a different tonnage (similar to the -IIC variants that the [[Clans]] created for many classic designs). While its overall weight was increased to 60 tons, meaning more powerful [[jump jet]]s are required for the 'Mech, the ''Super Griffin'' retains the CoreTek 275 [[fusion engine]] which could only provide a ground speed of 64.8 km/h for the heavier frame. To make up for this, the armor has been increased by half a ton and a [[Medium Laser]] has been added. Also, the ''Super Griffin'' mounts thirteen [[heat sink]]s (as opposed to the twelve regular heat sinks on the standard ''Griffin''), three of which are experimental [[double heat sink]]s, for a total heat dissipation capacity of 16 per turn. :''Note that the'' Super Griffin ''as described in the sourcebook is an illegal design and cannot be built under standard rules: :*''The armor allocation of 22/7 to both torso sides is illegal. Even on a 60-ton frame the 'Mech may only mount altogether 28 points of armor on any side torso location. However, the ''Super Griffin'' has one less point of armor on both arms compared to the standard ''Griffin'' on which it is based, for no apparent reason. This suggests that the armor configuration given is in error, and that the illegal armor point on the side torso locations belongs to the respective arm instead. :*''Although it is technically legal to have a mismatched engine, the'' Super Griffin ''suffers a reduction in speed due to its increased mass and may only have four jump jets (at one ton each), not nine as shown in the sourcebook. This was presumably a misprint, and supposed to read four instead; no record sheet exists to show the location, and thereby the number, of the jump jets. :*''Double heat sinks cannot normally be mixed with standard heat sinks. However, special house rules regarding experimental double heat sinks that could be substituted for regular heat sinks were provided within the [[Tales of the Black Widow Company|sourcebook for that particular campaign]]. :''With thirteen heat sinks and four jump jets the 'Mech comes out at 59.5 tons and is actually 0.5 tons underweight.'' :''It's also possible that since Tales of the Black Widow Company (where the Super Griffin appears) was the first scenario book published it may have been built using the original Battledroid rules. In those rules there was no restriction on how many jump jets you could mount on a mech (beyond tonnage and space) and all jump jets weighed 0.5 tons regardless of the mechs tonnage. Using those rules the Super Griffin could easily mount 9 jump jets and still be legal. Together with the ''[[Super Wasp]]'', the ''Super Griffin'' was designed at the [[Friden Aerospace Park]] research facility on [[Hoff]] by [[House Davion]] scientists in "[[Project Phoenix]]". After eighteen months of work, an operational prototype had been completed but was yet untested when the [[Black Widow Company]] attacked the facility on 13 May [[3022]]. It was deployed as a last line of defense together with the ''Super Wasps'', and was presumably destroyed. There have been no recorded encounters with either design afterwards. The ''Super Griffin'' was apparently never considered for full production, but the exact reasons for this remain unknown. (The ''[[Hatchetman]]'' which entered full production a few years later was hailed as the [[Inner Sphere]]'s first new 'Mech design in over a century, and in the [[Periphery]] the ''[[Merlin (BattleMech)|Merlin]]'' had been designed twelve years earlier already.) Since the design stretches the construction rules it could be speculated that the ''Super Griffin'''s new technology turned out to be unreliable, or otherwise unsuitable for mass production for technical or economic reasons; alternatively it could be assumed that the research results and blueprints were irrevocably lost over the course of the battles for Hoff. ==Armament== The ''Super Griffin'' retains the weapon configuration of the regular GRF-1N ''Griffin'', namely a [[PPC]] in the right arm and a [[LRM-10]] launcher with two tons of ammunition in the right torso. A [[Medium Laser]] was added to the left arm. ==Variants== None known. The ''Super Griffin'' never came beyond the prototype stage. ==References== *[[Tales of the Black Widow Company]] [[Category:BattleMechs]] [[Category:Heavy BattleMechs]] [[Category:60 ton BattleMechs]]

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