Category talk:Game Aids

Cleanup

This has been in "Cleanup" since 2008, with the note in the cleanup tag as follows: "Game Aids are a separate article from rules. They are physical items sold by the various publishers of the game. Rules and concepts should be moved to a different, new category, or outright removed". Rather than remove the cleanup tag, I am putting the note here so in 2022 we can discuss what we want to do with this category.--Talvin (talk) 10:23, 19 March 2022 (EDT)

Talvin, Thanks for your note. Some progress was made on this back in 2021. The definition of Game Aids is intertwined with the definition of many of the product categories. For a page regarding the more general issue (and more top down classifcation approach), see Product Type Classification Tree and Talk:Product Type Classification Tree. --Dude RB (talk) 12:21, 19 March 2022 (EDT)

I am aware of those, but I am afraid this answer doesn't help me much. I am focused on going through the things marked "Cleanup", which are on the To-Do list off to the left, and trying to mind-read sometimes over a decade in the past of "OK, what did they want us to clean up?" This note was buried in the code, so I am bringing it out where it can at least be seen. Do we still want the Cleanup tag on this category after all these years, or do we want to pull it?--Talvin (talk) 12:24, 19 March 2022 (EDT)

Mind-reading from from the past decade is always a challenging endeavor. :-) In this case, I think that the issue was that the cateogry was being used for game rules as well as for products that would be properly termed games aids. [This is the conclusion I came to in reading through the pages listed here. But when I checked the clean-up tag I learned that it was added three years ago and its stated reason was this conflation between game rules pages and game aid pages. Perhaps I should have read the clean-up note in the page code first.]

I have since recategorized the game rules articles under their own (new) category Category:Game Rules and added an official definition for Game Aids. This appears to resolve the clean-up tag regarding this page and thus I have removed it. --Dude RB (talk) 15:15, 19 March 2022 (EDT)

Thank you. I know the BattleTechWiki:Project GameRules group was planning some drastic changes to how rules fit in the Wiki--at least last I heard, I have stepped back from it myself. That at least puts things where they can be found easily.--Talvin (talk) 15:25, 19 March 2022 (EDT)

Thanks for the note about the Rules Project. That is not something I was aware was happening (I tend to focus on the product side of things which is separate from both lore and rules). I can definitely see the need to thresh out the policy/practice on that given the potential copyright issues. In any case, the Category: Game Rules category tag would be a way to tag those pages for a proper closer look once it is identified what level of detail should be kept and what should not. --Dude RB (talk) 20:06, 19 March 2022 (EDT)