Talk:Jump Jet

Revision as of 21:46, 11 July 2011 by Cyc (talk | contribs) (Keep Model List - Dump Used By List)

Cleanup and merge

I just noticed this page is in dire need of cleanup. Most of the page consists of model names provided as fluff in the TROs and their accompanying references. i was wondering if I should just get rid of that list and leave the page as a description of jump jets, possibly with info about the game rules. Additionally, improved jump jets is a stub. I was wondering if it is al right if I add them to this page as a category and turn the old page into a redirect. BirdofPrey 00:05, 12 July 2011 (UTC)

Leave the model list. You'll see that on every weapon and for plenty of equipment. I would also not merge IJJ here because that is a separate piece of equipment. I think these two articles treat JJs and IJJs as equipment mounted on 'Mechs, but this article fails to adequately address the concept of a jump jet; that is, a technology that enables 'Mechs to jump. Am I on the right track? --Scaletail 01:09, 12 July 2011 (UTC)
At the very least the references list needs to be condensed. There's only a few books, but they are listed dozens of times. I may need help on that front, since I am not that familiar with references. I'll drop another note if I can't figure it out. I was going to rewrite this with the mechanics behind jumps jets followed by an equipment section talking about jump jets as a piece of equipment (tonnage based on mech weight, 30 meter jump capacity per jet) for mechs as well as details of protomech and battle armor jets then a mention of the Kanga jump tank and vehicular jump jets. I figured if I were including standard jump jets in an equipment section, I might as well include improved jump jets. If they need their own page I can just write that improved jump jets allow a mech to jump further at the cost of using more mass and space and then link IJJs.BirdofPrey 01:32, 12 July 2011 (UTC)
The reference list is broken down by page number so no way to really condense that as each page number is a separate reference, however I'm of the opinion that while we need to model list, we do not need the used by list below it. Its been added haphazardly at best, has multiple instances of the same model getting separate entires and doesn't even link out to the units in question. Cyc 01:46, 12 July 2011 (UTC)

Vehicular Jump jets

As a construction option, I was planning on adding Vehicular jump jets to this page in lieu of making a new page since they follow most of the rules of battlemech jump jets. I was wondering if mentioning the new Hephaestus variant in TRO:Prototypes is a moratorium violation (I wasn't planning on editing the Hephaestus page until TRO:Prototypes leaves the moratorium period. I was just thinking of mentioning the new variant along with the Kanga) BirdofPrey 00:05, 12 July 2011 (UTC)

If you would need to cite a source that is under moratorium, then it is a violation of that policy, unless it falls under one of the exceptions. --Scaletail 01:09, 12 July 2011 (UTC)