Talk:Kallon Industries

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BTW editors are discouraged from adding unofficial fan-made information to articles that contain canonical or apocryphal information otherwise. Fan-created material may not be included within the body of any non-Fanon articles, but may be linked to in the ==See Also (Fandom)== section (please feel free to add this to any articles, if it is not already present). We also ask that fan-created articles not be included in any categories that do not have a derivative of the word "fan" or "custom" in the category name.

A huge amount of material is being added by this user from MadCapellan's Objective Raids: 3067, an (awesome) fan-work, but still a fanwork.--— The preceding unsigned comment was posted by 65.190.30.41 (talk • contribs) 18:04, 24 January 2010 .

I agree with the sentiment of this statement but have you found the data to be wrong? Talk to the editor rather than make a general statement to everybody, most folk around here will gladly take constructive critercism. --Dmon 00:38, 25 January 2010 (UTC)

65.190.30.41, I agree with Dmon (regarding the truthfulness of the added materials). Doneve was told the difference between an official source and a meta-source, which is a source compiling information from official sources (just as BTW does also). As such, he does not reference MadCapellan's work any longer. But, just like every other edit made with a reference, facts can be kept if not proven wrong (or, at least without a great deal of doubt regarding its veracity). In other words, there is nothing wrong with putting true statements into an article. (See also: OR:3067 Notes)--Revanche ^{(talk|contribs)} 02:40, 25 January 2010 (UTC)

I agree with Revanche. MadCapellan's Objective Raid: 3067 if it is only support material for me, i searce in the TRO's and other material, for the correctnes, what was added in MadCapellan's book.I see no proplems with my addings, I added some references and update some references there other editors not added on the articles. Greetings Doneve 12:19, 25 January 2010 (UTC)

Three points to be made from me on this topic:

1) OR:3067 is a fan-made compliation of information drawn from canonical sources. This means that OR:3067 is not itself a canonical product, but in the light of BTW's aim to include "anything to do with BattleTech", it is a notable piece of work that deserves its own article - appropriately marked as a Fan Creation, of course.

2) The content of OR:3067 is not canon on grounds of being published in OR:3067; it can only be canon on grounds of being published in a canonical source which OR:3067 isn't. OR:3067, like most (all) meta-sources, aims to compile only canonical data but this is still an important distinction. Most importantly, it means OR:3067 itself can never be used for a citation or to prove an item's canonicity on BTW, only whatever sources it drew its (canonical) information from.

3) The Fanon Content part of our Policy:Canon cited above is meant to cover original Fanon fiction, which is yet another different issue. To keep OR:3067 as an example, the in-character introduction claiming it to be a ComStar document within the universe is Fanon in the sense of completely Fan-made fiction; it adds something that wasn't there before (as opposed to compiling information that was previously published in various canonical publications).

Hope this makes sense and clears this up. :) Frabby 16:51, 25 January 2010 (UTC)