Talk:Reseen

About the Marauder

There are actually two distinct definitions of "Reseen":

Some now use the term to describe images that used to be unseen, but are not unseen anymore. I think this only applies to the Ost-Mechs at this time. Even those 'Mechs that may legally be shown again and some that were never illegal to show in the first place remain unseen because TPTB have decided to take no chances with out-of-house works and IPs anymore.

When the term "Reseen" was originally coined, it referred to new images depicting units whose older art was unseen - namely the Technical Readout: Project Phoenix designs. This is what the Marauder article refers to, as there is at least one (albeit apocryphal) novel cover that anachronistically depicts a 3067-era Project Phoenix Marauder on the cover of a 3025-era novel where the unseen shape was relevant as the Marauder's canonical shape.

This article does need cleanup because it fails to cover these two distinct definitions. Then again, I think it is somewhat superflous should be merged into an appropriate subsection of the article about the Unseen anyways. Redirect to Unseen#Reseen. Frabby (talk) 04:54, 3 September 2013 (PDT)

All of the 'mechs listed here are listed as part of Project Phoenix. You haven't clearly explained what the problem is. IMO the second definition is the only one that really matters for an article, but as GOLFisNOTaSPORT mentioned on the category discussion page, if you feel the need, you can go into detail regarding the two definitions rather than delete the article. I feel that having this list is important. I also think that any 'mech page that states that the 'mech is Unseen, that is listed in Project Phoenix, should also state that it is one of the Reseen. Otherwise we have lots of people (including game developers) who think the 'mech is not available for use in games simply based on that Unseen label. Mechwarrior Online added their Phoenix 'mechs based on the list of Reseen. --Trifler (talk) 06:08, 18 August 2014 (PDT)