Talk:Frank Trollman case

Cleanup, or Clean Out

First I am going to address what I see as the minimum necessary "cleanup" here, and then I will discuss why I think we should either delete this page or signficantly pare it down.

Minimum for cleanup: This is written in present tense, but it is over twelve years past and needs to be in the past tense. Even if the case is ongoing, we can still stick to that to keep this page "current" ("As of May 2020, blah blah" or such.) It needs to be updated if possible with some resolution, as it gives the reader the impression this is an ongoing matter. Every statement should be clearly cited from an external source. That's what I see as minimum.

Now, what I feel is best: I am very uncomfortable with having pages like this on the Wiki, as it is all too easy to, even in Good Faith, stumble into Libel. Issues like the Unseen have a significant impact on the playerbase and the look and contents of the products, and I feel that needs some coverage. This does not feel like that kind of situation. Rather than trying to cover it in detail, if we keep this page and others like it at all, they need to be minimal, primarily pointers to outside sources that cover the details. Those outside sources are probably not Wikis that anyone can edit, and in any case Sarna.net is not liable for their contents. Right now this page is linked from Loren L. Coleman and InMediaRes Productions, LLC, both of which have summaries that, while maybe some more citations would be desirable, seem quite adequate (and have some closure attached). Maybe those sections of those pages should just be merged here?

Summary: my preferences for this page are Best Outcome: Delete perhaps with Redirect to one of the linking pages, Acceptable Outcome: take those summaries out of Coleman and IMR's pages and just use that here, Minimum Outcome: make it past tense, pare it down and cite extensively.

--Talvin (talk) 14:41, 29 April 2022 (EDT)

Would it makes sense to have a single page for all the various lawsuits? Madness Divine (talk) 15:03, 29 April 2022 (EDT)

Not seeing a practical benefit to that, and I do see a possibility for confusion between cases. I just don't think we should have much coverage of behind-the-scenes legal matters like this unless it directly impacts the BattleTech Universe in some meaningful way (hence the comparison between this and the stuff surrounding the Unseen.)--Talvin (talk) 16:42, 29 April 2022 (EDT)

Removal of unsourced information and follow-up on the court case would be a good idea. If you haven't already, take a look at the edit history of the Eridani Light Horse lawsuit for an example.--Cache (talk) 18:53, 29 April 2022 (EDT)