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::::First the Thorin FTM was part of the LAAF. Then it went renegade. Then it became part of the 1st Thorin Regiment of the unofficial AFFS (of the then-non-existing FedSun) of Victor during the FedCom Civil War. That means, that after the FCCWar the 1st Thorin re-joined the LAAF and was renamed to Thorin FTM. --[[User:Detlef|Detlef]] 03:25, 6 March 2009 (PST)
 
::::First the Thorin FTM was part of the LAAF. Then it went renegade. Then it became part of the 1st Thorin Regiment of the unofficial AFFS (of the then-non-existing FedSun) of Victor during the FedCom Civil War. That means, that after the FCCWar the 1st Thorin re-joined the LAAF and was renamed to Thorin FTM. --[[User:Detlef|Detlef]] 03:25, 6 March 2009 (PST)
 
:::::So, we have a Thorin FTM page which mentions all that and a redirect for the 1st Thorin Regiment to that entry, two separate articles is too confusing, especially for a different name that lasted lasted only a tiny amount of time.[[User:Cyc|Cyc]] 05:16, 6 March 2009 (PST)
 
:::::So, we have a Thorin FTM page which mentions all that and a redirect for the 1st Thorin Regiment to that entry, two separate articles is too confusing, especially for a different name that lasted lasted only a tiny amount of time.[[User:Cyc|Cyc]] 05:16, 6 March 2009 (PST)
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::::::Okay, but then we will need 3 separate info-boxes because of the name-change. --[[User:Detlef|Detlef]] 08:15, 6 March 2009 (PST)

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Since they're the same unit, I propose that this article be merged into Thorin FTM. --Scaletail 18:09, 4 March 2009 (PST)

IIRC (hard to check at work) Field Manual: Updates list them as the Thorin FTM again too. Cyc 19:46, 4 March 2009 (PST)
The 1st Thorin consists of the original Thorin FTM and various other rebells. Later "Archer's Avengers" spread to two further regiments: the Muphrid-Rangers and the Minutemen.
From what I have heard in a forum, The Muphrid-Rangers and the Minutemen stayed on Twycross after the CJF-incursion, while the 1st Thorin flew back to aid Victor. The Muphrid-Rangers and the Minutemen were destroyed by Clan Diamond Shark when it took over Twycross. The 1st Thorin went back to it's original role of defending Thorin.
Maybe it was renamed to Thorin FTM in that process.
I would keep these two units seperate (at least for now) because I think, it would add additional confusion as long as the articles are not finished. --Detlef 04:28, 5 March 2009 (PST)
The listing in Field Manual: Updates reads "Better known as Archer's Avengers, the Thorin FTM is the only regional militia regarded as a front-line unit by the LAAF, its performance against the Fifteenth Arcturan, Snords' Irregulars and the Jade Falcons earning the unit a solid reputation in the short time of its existence as an independent formation."
The way I understand it, the 1st Thorin Regiment/Thorin Militia became Archer's Avengers during the FCCW so that they could technically be part of a foreign military. Following the end of that war and their reintegration into the LAAF, the unit became the Thorin FTM. --Scaletail 19:02, 5 March 2009 (PST)
First the Thorin FTM was part of the LAAF. Then it went renegade. Then it became part of the 1st Thorin Regiment of the unofficial AFFS (of the then-non-existing FedSun) of Victor during the FedCom Civil War. That means, that after the FCCWar the 1st Thorin re-joined the LAAF and was renamed to Thorin FTM. --Detlef 03:25, 6 March 2009 (PST)
So, we have a Thorin FTM page which mentions all that and a redirect for the 1st Thorin Regiment to that entry, two separate articles is too confusing, especially for a different name that lasted lasted only a tiny amount of time.Cyc 05:16, 6 March 2009 (PST)
Okay, but then we will need 3 separate info-boxes because of the name-change. --Detlef 08:15, 6 March 2009 (PST)