Talk:Tex Talks Battletech

Promotional piece

This article is essentially promotional marketing for the youtube channel. Links to all episodes, ego fluffing for Tex's cononized character and a full section about the groups apparent charity work but no attempt to talk about the history of the channel. This article is not objective or informative, as such I am going to propose to delete it unless it can be rewritten.--Dmon (talk) 15:33, 26 December 2023 (EST)

Hi, and first off, thank you for the feedback! I must admit this was written with a fan's outlook, however, i do not believe i ever set out to grant undue praise or state falsehood. As you may have noticed, the history section exists, but is currently empty. This is because i am currently in contact with Tex and others in order to get an inside perspective in addition to the readily available resources from social media and interviews. I am aware that these must be recorded and referenced. I disagree with your statement that the article is not informative, as it provides a basic overview of the premise and dimensions of the series. To address the mentioned lack of objectivity, i will look into rewriting sections that may contain loaded language or inappropriate turns of phrase.

I ask for leniency, as i am working not only on a delicate subject, that being: Real-Life contributors to both the Fandom and the Hobby as a whole rather than Authors or Artists, but also on a page format which lacks precedence (as far as i can tell). If anyone wishes to assist, the use of inline comments seems prudent. I also wish to call to mind that even an objectively written piece would have some arguable promotional character if it includes references to the body of work of a given contributor. The impression given by direct linkage may appear promotional or even have that effect, but given that there is no "offline" variant of the work being referenced, direct links seem to me the most reasonable option. T1MM5H (talk) 18:57, 26 December 2023 (EST)

In case a tl;dr is needed; i will try to rewrite the page to be more objective and concise. However, i do not believe any article on a non-canon-contributing person of interest will be able to shake the "impression" of being promotional by virtue of addressing topics, organizations and persons which may or may not be known to the wider Fandom and are not affiliated with CGL, Topps, or other rights holders. Larger Forum discussion on this Topic may be in order. T1MM5H (talk) 19:09, 26 December 2023 (EST)

I agree that the article should be reworked to become more encyclopedic and less "promotional" as Dmon put it; but I disagree with the notion that it should be deleted. We need an article for a high-profile show like this, so for me it's no question that the article can stay. Stylistic issues are solvable. Frabby (talk) 06:57, 27 December 2023 (EST)

Suggestions

Since i am having a bit of trouble finding a good middle ground and tone for this page, i'd like to ask for feedback about which information is prudent to include and how to package it best. I am currently unsure wether a full Episode List is actually needed/if it can be condensed, and wether to go into more or less detail regarding the fictitious/fanon elements of the series. Thoughts?

Go for an encyclopedic approach. Presume a reader will read up on the subject matter because they are not familiar with it. The article should provide a solid overview of what "Tex Talks BattleTech" is, without losing itself in details. In its current form I think it is way too long and detailed. Frabby (talk) 06:57, 27 December 2023 (EST)