Talk:List of BattleTech products

Classic BattleTech Technical Readouts

I could use some input on this: Classic BattleTech Technical Readout 3025 and Classic BattleTech Technical Readout 3060 were both published by FanPro. I know next to nothing on either of these, but suspect I chose not to buy because I already had multiple editions of both from FASA. I went ahead and linked to their respective TRO article, but am unsure as to whether or not the visible title for the books (in the List of Products article) should read "Classic BattleTech" or -like the other TROs- be displayed only as "Technical Readout: Year." Feel free to make the change. (Note: if the FanPro editions did differentiate significantly, anyone with the means of comparison -even if its against the present articles- can indicate so in those articles.) --Revanche ^{(talk|contribs)} 12:13, 5 July 2008 (CDT)

What does qualify?

I see you are only including FASA, Catalyst and WizKids game material here. In the wake of the canonicity debate I suggest to expand this list to other official/licensed stuff like computer games, books, magazines, comics etc., in short anything that anyone might consider canon. Perhaps even the opening of the various BT centers has a place here, and the time of their closing (and that of FASA?) Frabby 09:49, 4 August 2008 (CDT)

I have no problem with that. In the manner in which the list has been built, each producer (rather than copyright holder) would have the products listed under its name. However, we would need to (IMO) either create a higher order list (ex: Gaming Products, Novels, Computer Games, Miniatures Games, etc) or accept that FASA would no longer lead the list (ex. - in order: Catalyst Games Labs, FanPro, FASA, Microsoft, ROC, etc.). I do think it is essential to keep the products listed by year under manufacturer.

Thinking again, if we do this, I'd probably want to copy FASA, FP & CGL into a more-approrpiately CBT-only-named list, and keep both updated. But, I'll see where you take it.

Speaking of the canoncity discussion, I believe Scaletail and I would both appreciate your input before further action.--Revanche ^{(talk|contribs)} 07:31, 6 August 2008 (CDT)

Today I added the RS: 3039 and besides them 3 RS that are from InMediaRes, I hope those 3 are OK.--BigDuke66 06:35, 16 June 2009 (PDT)

Fall of Terra

I've changed the wikilink for the product, as I feel that someday there will be an article about the actual event (or at least a redirect to the preferred name for the event). This is in keeping with the manner in which sourcebooks named after popular units is handled. --Revanche ^{(talk|contribs)} 01:20, 23 August 2008 (CDT)

The Battle For Twycross

Just checked the book and wonder where it mentions that it was release in 1988. I find 2 dates one under the credits and one on the backcover that both say copyright 1990.--BigDuke66 16:58, 7 January 2009 (PST)

I don't have the book, so I can't say what the copyright is, but I know it wasn't released in 1988. Nothing dealing with the clans came out prior to 1990.--Fulminata 05:59, 11 September 2009 (UTC)

I agree. Everything I see says it is 1990. I have no problem with the change being made. --Revanche ^{(talk|contribs)} 13:30, 11 September 2009 (UTC)

Sorting?

Is there any specific way to sort a new book into a year? Top, bottom or unimportant?--BigDuke66 06:21, 16 June 2009 (PDT)

The right answer is probably 'unimportant,' if there is no discernable method already used. I would be prone to using either chronological release (if known) or chronological product codes. --Revanche ^{(talk|contribs)} 06:55, 16 June 2009 (PDT)

Some form of sorting is required, imho. Unless you switch to strictly alphabetical sorting (which would cause problems because some product names are arbitrary), I suggest to continue with the approach I took when I re-worked the entire thing: I sorted by publisher first within a year, then by product code number, regardless of when exactly within the year a given product was released. Frabby 09:02, 9 April 2010 (UTC)

On the Main Page

As a large contributor to Sarna, I find this page rather important to my interests. It has been removed from the Category:Books twice now, which makes it rather difficult for me to quickly refer to it when I want. I don't agree that it doesn't fall under the category, because most of the products on the list /are/ books, though not completely all. However, its not something I'm fully invested in fighting for. So, the work around we shall go with is a direct link on the Main Page to this specific article. I leave it up to another soul to connect to a games-like category, in order to make the first Main Page link as correct as the category itself is. --Revanche ^{(talk|contribs)} 22:24, 2 February 2010 (UTC)

Year sorting

Another area this list can be improved upon is to make it as easy as it was in the previous incarnation to get to a year's products quickly. I intend to break up the mega-table by year, so that sections (and a TOC) can be added. --Revanche ^{(talk|contribs)} 22:27, 2 February 2010 (UTC)

TOC and sections provided. --Revanche ^{(talk|contribs)} 14:39, 13 February 2010 (UTC)

About the sections... this may be a cultural issue, but here a decade is considered to begin with the numeral year 1 and end with the 10th year, i.e. the 1990s would technically include the years between 1991 and 2000. Frabby 09:02, 9 April 2010 (UTC)

Maybe cultural here too, maybe a generalist-mathematician thing. But, I'm not sure breaking it into decades adds any value anyway. I'm reverting it. --Revanche ^{(talk|contribs)} 11:19, 9 April 2010 (UTC)

In all technicality, decades do begin with years that end in "1", but few people in the US treat it that way. I think it's a language thing: how do you argue that 1980 is, in fact, part of the 1970s? It doesn't make sense, except that it is. --Scaletail 23:27, 9 April 2010 (UTC)