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=== Infoboxes and Templates ===
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*Ok, I'm really only learning that things I think I know aren't really so. I'm trying to figure out infoboxes (think they qualify as templates), but every time I copy code from MediaWiki or Wikipedia's Help, the box is not...boxed and on the right. I'm pretty much at an impasse. If you have any hints on this, then I can start moving forward again. I'll keep looking, but any help you provide would be much appreciated. [[User:Revanche|Revanche]] 14:26, 18 September 2006 (CDT)
 
** Nic, have you learned anything regarding info boxes? I've got a few more nights of working that would be good for this kind of leg work. [[User:Revanche|Revanche]] 23:30, 23 September 2006 (CDT)
 
*** I was talking with the guys over at MechWikia, and it sounds like the Info boxes automagically go to the right and in a box once there's enough content on the page.  Haven't tested this out.  [[User:Nicjansma|Nicjansma]] 10:16, 24 September 2006 (CDT)
 
**** That doesn't make sense to me. I can see the code involved with each box I've come across om Wikipedia. It refers to a template (hope I'm not using that term wrong) for a specifically-crafted box. Maybe what they mean is, when you insert the code on a given page and fill in the fields for that article (ex: insert code for a weapons box, and insert the data for the small laser), it only shows those fields you filled in. Meh...the help stuff at wiki and mediawiki haven't been to clear for a novice editor. [[User:Revanche|Revanche]] 22:47, 24 September 2006 (CDT)
 
***** Whoo-hoo...figured it out for myself, thanks to the use of one at MechWikia. Check [[Small laser|this]] out! Also, I've taken my lessons and I don't wanta forget 'em, so I'm starting a series of [[Help:Contents|Quick Article]] 'templates,' where editors can grab the code for specific types of articles (forming communities) and not have to worry about actually inserting templates. That's now my big project. I'll build each quick article and four examples. Hopefully, the souls will pick up from there. [[User:Revanche|Revanche]] 05:42, 26 September 2006 (CDT)
 
**** As for MechWikia, how's it going? Are they open to setting up shop here? [[User:Revanche|Revanche]] 22:47, 24 September 2006 (CDT) ''Edit: I started poking around again on MechWikia and I saw your post there regarding joining forces. As they didn't respond there, and you don't have a registration on their page, I was wondering if you had gotten a response from them. Looking around on their site, they have a lot of work done on 'mechs, which would be a huge resource for this site. Likewise, you have tons of information I feel they just could not easily replicate on their site. As sheer data goes, I imagine you have hundreds of more pages [looks like over 2,600 to his 65] and it'd be easier - right now - to port their articles over here. If you'd like, I'd be glad to speak with them also, but I wanted to make sure it was okay to represent Sarna. [[User:Revanche|Revanche]] 00:33, 25 September 2006 (CDT)
 
***** I've spoken with Kevin (Some_Guy) over at MechWikia via email, and he seems fairly receptive towards combining projects -- it sounds like he's willing to bring his resources over to Sarna.net.  We're still chatting, but things are proceeding smoothly!  Let's hope he's going to come help out! [[User:Nicjansma|Nicjansma]] 04:49, 25 September 2006 (CDT)
 
******Excellent! He welcomed me on my talk page over there and I expressed my interest in the merger, in response. [[User:Revanche|Revanche]] 20:51, 25 September 2006 (CDT)
 
 
 
 
 
=== Policies ===
 
* Nic, how do you feel about me working on some SarnaWiki policies? For example, the three-revert rule, community consensus decision-making process, vote calls and vote processes. If you're interested, I'll start looking to see how wikipedia does it and bring some starter ideas over here. (Reason I ask is because of the discussion I started with [[Rantamplan]] over his '[[My neveron history]]' article. Having a policy of voting would be helpful, especially in these early days (unless you want it to be by admins' fiat, until the article submission process is firmly established).) [[User:Revanche|Revanche]] 20:57, 25 September 2006 (CDT)
 
** Sounds great! I dont' have a lot of experience in those areas, and you're doing well.  Keep it up! [[User:Nicjansma|Nicjansma]] 02:38, 29 September 2006 (CDT)
 
 
 
 
 
=== Special Pages: Active Users ===
 
* Nic, do you have the option of adding the 'Active User List' page to 'Special Pages for all users?' Its valuable in that it reduces the users list to only those that have made changes or created pages. I've seen it at [http://battletech.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Specialpages MechWikia].[[User:Revanche|Revanche]] 02:33, 26 September 2006 (CDT)
 
** I don't see it in my list at all.  Is it an addon downloadable from somewhere? [[User:Nicjansma|Nicjansma]] 02:42, 29 September 2006 (CDT)
 
 
 
 
 
=== Copywrite Policy ===
 
* Nic, I've been observing entries over at MechWikia and I see that they have a standard policy regarding copywrited material, and one editor in particular is pretty adament about it? What are your views? Back in the day, FASA didn't really appear to be too strict on that and I know Sarna didn't really appear to enforce it either. Myself, I'm not really much of a stickler about that, so I wouldn't be a neo-police officer/editor on the matter, but if you're outright opposed to it, I want to be sure I don't violate it myself. Any elaboration on this would be helpful. Thanks. [[User:Revanche|Revanche]] 01:00, 29 September 2006 (CDT)
 
** I'd prefer to keep our content original, copyright-free. That being said, I'm not going to be a nazi checking every post to make sure, I don't think we have the time to do that.  [[User:Nicjansma|Nicjansma]] 02:42, 29 September 2006 (CDT)
 
*** I definitely agree with that. What about our policy in regards to when we (as editors) come across non-original material? Deletion of material, a tag requesting the plagerism to be re-written?  [[User:Revanche|Revanche]] 02:55, 29 September 2006 (CDT)
 
**** I believe a tag requesting the plagerism to be re-written would be more friendly, and probably get a better response. [[User:Nicjansma|Nicjansma]] 02:17, 4 October 2006 (CDT)
 
***** Rgr. I'll put that in my to-do list. --[[User:Revanche|Revanche]] 11:16, 4 October 2006 (CDT)
 
 
 
 
 
=== Featured Article ===
 
* One aspect I really like with some wikia projects (and wikipedia) is the Featured Article of the Day. Since you're in talks with Some_Guy about BattleTechWiki's (BTW) in regards to the Main Page, can you please look at reserving some space for a similar setup for us? I've got a few ideas (leading mostly to an award program) that would benefit from having Featured Articles on the main page. The main benefit to the first-time Reader is that they see an article that interests them (I'm thinking mainly of well-edited 'Mech entries by CJKey right now) and click on it, and end up exploring the links associated with it. Admins could control the length of the Feature time, etc. etc., but installing such a aspect on the main page is - I think - important. [[User:Revanche|Revanche]] 01:00, 29 September 2006 (CDT)
 
** I like that idea a lot!  Check the [[Main_Page_Test]] page out, and we can work on a prototype. [[User:Nicjansma|Nicjansma]]
 
*** Maybe I'm acting too eager, but I'm not seeing anything there. --[[User:Revanche|Revanche]] 02:57, 29 September 2006 (CDT)
 
**** I think the one thing missing from the front page right now is still the Featured Article.  Maybe as we develop some more articles we can start to fill it out? [[User:Nicjansma|Nicjansma]] 02:18, 4 October 2006 (CDT)
 
*****Definitely, but I've been searching for any information on /how/ to build a main page featured article. Media Wiki would seem to be the best source, but ''nada'' (that I can find). [[User:Revanche|Revanche]] 11:19, 4 October 2006 (CDT)
 
 
 
 
 
=== Awards ===
 
* Nic, how do you feel about an awards system here? I'm thinking along the line of the Wiki ribbons, rather than their barnstars and I've already created a few custom ribbons. I'm going to try and load a few, to make sure I understand the process of loading and awarding, so please take a look at [[Policy:Awards]] (not yet public) and tell me what you think. --[[User:Revanche|Revanche]] 06:02, 29 September 2006 (CDT)
 
** I hadn't really heard about it until you mentioned it.  I like the idea, but it may take a bit more for BTW to develop (i.e. more people) to get a good system going. [[User:Nicjansma|Nicjansma]] 02:19, 4 October 2006 (CDT)
 
***Concur. There are more important items for me to spend my time on, in order to get people to stay. But, I'd like to work on it once the templates are done. --[[User:Revanche|Revanche]] 11:13, 4 October 2006 (CDT)
 
 
 
  
 
=== Neveron article template===
 
=== Neveron article template===

Revision as of 23:13, 21 November 2006

Talk Archive

Neveron article template

  • Nic, ask a favor? Since you're familiar with your forums, could you ask someone on the Neveron side of the house to pop into my talkpage and suggest what an article on each Neveron faction should have? I'm thinking InfoBox type stuff (name, origination date, size, alliances, membership #, location, etc.) and then main article stuff (founder, history, significant events, external pages). In other words, other than what I just listed, what would a neveron player expect to see if he pulled up his faction's article on BTW? --Revanche 23:09, 29 September 2006 (CDT)
    • Some sort of template would be very helpful. I have tried to develop an interesting template for my own faction (Kommando Korps), including topics that would be neat for players outside the faction to comment on (enemies, friends, etc). Feel free to take a look at it if you'd like. Superjuke 14:02, 14 October 2006 (CDT)


Kudos & Thanks

  • I'm very impressed with the level of improvement being made to the Sarna wiki almost daily. It's a very large project, but it is getting done and that deserves plenty of kudos. Katrar 15:52, 14 October 2006 (CDT)
    • Thanks! I'm excited you're contributing. We're still all getting the ball rolling in a wiki form, but I have lots of ideas for things to expand upon. Very glad you're here! Nicjansma 23:40, 14 October 2006 (CDT)


500 Internal Server Error

  • Nic, I've tried it from two different comps. Edit and save any article; I'm getting the error. The save is made (as you'll see when you return to the article), but it fails every time. Its been this way for several hours. --Revanche (admin) 22:58, 23 October 2006 (CDT)
    • Doh! I've fixed this. Happened when I upgraded from mediawiki 1.7.x to 1.8.2. Nicjansma 23:38, 23 October 2006 (CDT)
      • Glad it was an easy fix. What new features do we get with the upgrade? --Revanche (admin) 00:23, 24 October 2006 (CDT)
      • Can you double-check for me regarding uploading files? I can't seem to do it and not sure if it is the software or my source files. --Revanche (admin) 08:10, 24 October 2006 (CDT)
        • I think they should be fixed now too. Nicjansma 11:34, 24 October 2006 (CDT)


BattleMech Portal

  • Nic, CJKeys & I are trying to develop a BattleMech 'portal,' where a user can click on a Portal link (following the Canon & Custom links) and see a 'main page' (of sorts) for all things BattleMech on BTW. What I'm starting off with is a copy of the BTW Main Page and will be replacing the directory template with one that displays all the CBT factions. The intent is when someone clicks on faction link within that directory, say the FWL, they'll eb directed to an all FWL category page list FWL BattleMechs. Now, I see this directory list being quite long, once all the factions get added. I could do it with tables, but that means every time a new faction is added, the table has to be adjusted. I'd like the list to automatically divide all the factions into two columns and display it in that one left-side panel. Do you know of any code that would take the list and make it columnar [right word?]? --Revanche (admin) 18:25, 29 October 2006 (CST)
Any guidance, Nic? --Revanche (admin) 16:19, 11 November 2006 (CST)
Sorry, must have missed this the first time. I do not know of anything, but I haven't looked into expanding the MediaWiki software yet. Maybe it will be decently easy? I'll take a look. Nicjansma 20:09, 11 November 2006 (CST)
Thanks. Also, if you could tell me how to shade the background for tables. BattleMech Portal looks a little odd with the white table on grey. The help pages at MW are a bit bare on the subject. --Revanche (admin) 20:52, 11 November 2006 (CST)
It's part of the style="background: #ABCDEFG" part on the first line of the text, such as this: Nicjansma 18:37, 12 November 2006 (CST)
{| style="width: 100%; margin-top: +.7em; background-color: #DCDCDC; border: 2px solid #000000"
That's simply...sniff...beautiful, man. Works perfectly. Thanks! --Revanche (admin) 18:42, 12 November 2006 (CST)


Fiction in Templates

  • Nic, why do you think that the four fiction stories are showing up in the Templates category? --Revanche (admin) 22:39, 13 November 2006 (CST)
    • I added the <noinclude>[[Category:Templates]]</noinclude> around the category on the Template:NoEdit page. That means that pages that include the NoEdit template won't include the Category part of the template, so they themselves won't be in the templates category. Nicjansma 01:31, 14 November 2006 (CST)
      • Got it...thanks. Lesson learned. --Revanche (admin) 01:37, 14 November 2006 (CST)


New Help

  • Nic, as discussed, I've advertised the site on my own forums. At least two have joined in and started some editing. Jimmy has already posted a story, made a few corrections and joined Project: BattleMechs. I think he's quite pumped. Bowtie Bob, another one of my forum admins, has also dropped by and made a few 'starter' edits. We'll see if we can pique his interest, as he wanders about. I'm anticipating the famous Medron Pryde to pop in and grace us with a number of excellent fan fiction. --Revanche (admin) 01:37, 14 November 2006 (CST)

CSS suggestion from Xoid

  • Nic, pls take a look on my talk page to see a suggestion Xoid has about indentions and CSS. --Revanche (admin) 20:48, 17 November 2006 (CST)
    • No problemo, I've added this to our css sheet.

Founder Userbar Bestowed

  • Nic, I hope you don't think this is too ostentatious, but I commissioned Skuggi at cbt.com to create some userbars for us. The idea came to me as I worked on the BTW policies today and I realized you had a position that is equivalent to Jimbo Wales' at Wikipedia. So, I asked him to make a custom one for you. Its the only one with stars on it, and all of the userbars make use of BTW's logo (the IS Map with the name across it). I still have to write up the position articles for most of the positions (advocate, moderator, arbiter, administrator), but I figured those people, when they are assigned, should 'wear' their userbars at the top of their userpages, for quicker identification. The Project team members and lead (for example Project:BattleMechs) will put them where ever on their pages they prefer. I was hoping you'd post your's at the top of your Userpage. Anyway, onto the ceremony..."[drumroll]...I bestow the following unique userbar upon BattleTechWiki's founder, Nic Jansma:

BTW Founder.jpg

"Congratulations and thanks, Nic." --Revanche (admin) 02:07, 20 November 2006 (CST)

    • This is awesome looking! I've added it now. Thanks Skuggi and Revanche!