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The [[DropShip]] '''''Success''''' was listed as part of the attached support vessels of the [[Choyer Garrison (Clan Wolf)|Choyer Garrison Cluster]] of [[Epsilon Galaxy (Clan Wolf)]] in a [[ComStar]] document dated 1 December [[3052]], as "''[[Union]]'' Class Command DropShip".<ref>''Wolf Clan Soucebook'', p. 109</ref>
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The [[DropShip]] '''''Success''''' was listed as part of the attached support vessels of the [[Choyer Garrison (Clan Wolf)|Choyer Garrison Cluster]] of [[Epsilon Galaxy (Clan Wolf)]] in a [[ComStar]] document dated 1 December [[3052]], as "''[[Union (DropShip class)|Union]]'' Class Command DropShip."<ref>''Wolf Clan Sourcebook'', p. 109</ref>
  
 
Notably, there was a second [[Success (Individual Union-class DropShip)|''Union''-class vessel bearing the same name]] serving in the same unit at the same time, though said other vessel was not identified as a Command DropShip. Context establishes that these were indeed two different vessels.
 
Notably, there was a second [[Success (Individual Union-class DropShip)|''Union''-class vessel bearing the same name]] serving in the same unit at the same time, though said other vessel was not identified as a Command DropShip. Context establishes that these were indeed two different vessels.
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==Implied data==
 
==Implied data==
 
===Exact Class===
 
===Exact Class===
It should be noted that sources from the early [[Clan Invasion era]], like the ComStar report naming the ''Success'', have been known to (mis-)report [[Clan]] DropShips of the ''[[Broadsword]]'', ''[[Union-C]]'' and ''[[Overlord-C]]'' classes in particular as vessels of equivalent [[Inner Sphere]] classes, namely the ''[[Leopard]]'', ''[[Union]]'', and ''[[Overlord]]''.<ref>According to an official [http://bg.battletech.com/forums/index.php?topic=56035.0 ruling] by [[Ray "Adrian Gideon" Arrastia]], made in the "Ask the Lead Developers" section of the [[BattleTech Forum]] which is reserved for official rulings.</ref> This leaves a distinct possibility that the ''Success'' was in fact a ''Union-C''. However, at the same time, other sources differentiated between these designs and still observed both Clan designs and their Inner Sphere predecessor designs serving side-by-side among the invading [[Clans]].<ref>''The Falcon and the Wolf'', cf. "1st Wolf Guards/Clan Command (The Golden Keshik)", where 1 Clan ''Overlord-C'' and 3 Clan ''Overlord''s are noted as Support Vessels on p. 54</ref> For a lack of conclusive evidence to the contrary, the notion that the ''Success'' was a ''Union'' (and not a ''Union-C'') is therefore taken at face value for the purpose of this article.
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It should be noted that sources from the early [[Clan Invasion era]], like the ComStar report naming the ''Success'', have been known to misreport [[Clan]] DropShips of the ''[[Broadsword]]'', ''[[Union-C]]'', and ''[[Overlord-C]]'' classes in particular as vessels of equivalent [[Inner Sphere]] classes, namely the ''[[Leopard (DropShip class)|Leopard]]'', ''Union'', and ''[[Overlord (DropShip class)|Overlord]]''.<ref>According to an official [http://bg.battletech.com/forums/index.php?topic=56035.0 ruling] by [[Ray "Adrian Gideon" Arrastia]], made in the "Ask the Lead Developers" section of the [[BattleTech Forum]] which is reserved for official rulings.</ref> This leaves a distinct possibility that the ''Success'' was in fact a ''Union-C''. However, at the same time, other sources differentiated between these designs and still observed both Clan designs and their Inner Sphere predecessor designs serving side-by-side among the invading [[Clans]].<ref>''The Falcon and the Wolf'', cf. "1st Wolf Guards/Clan Command (The Golden Keshik)", where 1 Clan ''Overlord-C'' and 3 Clan ''Overlord''s are noted as Support Vessels on p. 54</ref> For a lack of conclusive evidence to the contrary, the notion that the ''Success'' was a ''Union'' (and not a ''Union-C'') is therefore taken at face value for the purpose of this article.
  
 
===Command Vessel===
 
===Command Vessel===
 
The source makes a distinction between "''Command Union''" and other ''Union'' class DropShips, and does likewise for ''Command Overlord''s and ''Overlord''s, implying that this refers to the actual subvariant or configuration of the ship in question, and not merely its role.
 
The source makes a distinction between "''Command Union''" and other ''Union'' class DropShips, and does likewise for ''Command Overlord''s and ''Overlord''s, implying that this refers to the actual subvariant or configuration of the ship in question, and not merely its role.
  
(Specific "Command" variants are known to exist for both the ''Union'' and ''Overlord'' class;<ref>''Technical Readout: 3057'', p. 26 and ''Technical Readout: 3057 Revised'', p. 24 (''Intruder'' class entry)</ref> it is unknown if corresponding sub-variants exist of the ''Union-C'' and ''Overlord-C''.)
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(Specific "Command" variants are known to exist for both the ''Union'' and ''Overlord'' class;<ref>''Technical Readout: 3057'', p. 26 and ''Technical Readout: 3057 Revised'', p. 24 (''Intruder'' class entry)</ref> it is unknown if corresponding subvariants exist of the ''Union-C'' and ''Overlord-C''.)
  
 
==References==
 
==References==
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==Bibliography==
 
==Bibliography==
*''[[Wolf Clan Sourcebook]]''
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* ''[[Wolf Clan Sourcebook]]''
  
 
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Latest revision as of 05:41, 15 January 2024

Success
Vessel Profile
TypeDropShip
ClassCommand Union (see text)

The DropShip Success was listed as part of the attached support vessels of the Choyer Garrison Cluster of Epsilon Galaxy (Clan Wolf) in a ComStar document dated 1 December 3052, as "Union Class Command DropShip."[1]

Notably, there was a second Union-class vessel bearing the same name serving in the same unit at the same time, though said other vessel was not identified as a Command DropShip. Context establishes that these were indeed two different vessels.

Implied data[edit]

Exact Class[edit]

It should be noted that sources from the early Clan Invasion era, like the ComStar report naming the Success, have been known to misreport Clan DropShips of the Broadsword, Union-C, and Overlord-C classes in particular as vessels of equivalent Inner Sphere classes, namely the Leopard, Union, and Overlord.[2] This leaves a distinct possibility that the Success was in fact a Union-C. However, at the same time, other sources differentiated between these designs and still observed both Clan designs and their Inner Sphere predecessor designs serving side-by-side among the invading Clans.[3] For a lack of conclusive evidence to the contrary, the notion that the Success was a Union (and not a Union-C) is therefore taken at face value for the purpose of this article.

Command Vessel[edit]

The source makes a distinction between "Command Union" and other Union class DropShips, and does likewise for Command Overlords and Overlords, implying that this refers to the actual subvariant or configuration of the ship in question, and not merely its role.

(Specific "Command" variants are known to exist for both the Union and Overlord class;[4] it is unknown if corresponding subvariants exist of the Union-C and Overlord-C.)

References[edit]

  1. Wolf Clan Sourcebook, p. 109
  2. According to an official ruling by Ray "Adrian Gideon" Arrastia, made in the "Ask the Lead Developers" section of the BattleTech Forum which is reserved for official rulings.
  3. The Falcon and the Wolf, cf. "1st Wolf Guards/Clan Command (The Golden Keshik)", where 1 Clan Overlord-C and 3 Clan Overlords are noted as Support Vessels on p. 54
  4. Technical Readout: 3057, p. 26 and Technical Readout: 3057 Revised, p. 24 (Intruder class entry)

Bibliography[edit]