Talk:Operation BULLDOG

Hi

this is my latest work. I hope yu enjoy it. I have more material for this topic => Omnimechvariant with Clantech for IS omnis and maps. When you are interested le me know.Neuling 21:20, 25 February 2010 (UTC)

Very nice work.. but you might want to wikilink a bit more --Dmon 09:44, 25 February 2010 (UTC)

I've fixed some of the wikilinks, and some unit mis-spellings. -- Wrangler 13:22, 25 February 2010 (UTC)

At last I finished my project and i hope you are satisfied with it, the next project will start soonNeuling 22:51, 25 February 2010 (UTC)

Plagiarism Concern

A brief examination of some of the text (particularly Lonaconing) indicates to me that major sections of the material were directly plagiarized the [from] The Dragon Roars. (This, incidentally, has nothing to do with Neuling's tables.) I would request that other editors and admins give this a look. I believe the plagiarism banner is called for, here. ClanWolverine101 03:57, 5 March 2011 (UTC)

That's one of the few sources I don't have in any format. However, I trust CW101 does and agree that the tag is warranted. CW, if you'd help me by identifying what material is directly lifted, I'd appreciate it.--Revanche ^{(talk|contribs)} 16:31, 5 March 2011 (UTC)

Ditto Revanche. --Scaletail 18:21, 5 March 2011 (UTC)

Well, I need to go through it with a comb, but it looks like every single individual battle description has been lifted word for word. Don't know who's work that was, but I will keep you posted. ClanWolverine101 20:52, 5 March 2011 (UTC)

Hy guys, the work is from Neuling i hope this helps.--Doneve 20:57, 5 March 2011 (UTC)

I'm doesnt know that the content was considered as plagarism. Can anyone help me please? I will rewrite the articels with the incoporation of the Nova Cat forces but have no idea how could I do that we out the fear to make another plagarism. Tnx Neuling 23:31, 5 March 2011 (UTC)

Neuling - I'd like to help you. But do you honestly know what plagiarism is? A lot of that text was copied word-for-word from the book, and that is not okay. Can you tell me what wasn't copied? ClanWolverine101 15:29, 6 March 2011 (UTC)

I take alot of the information from a web side which is down or closed. I think it is best to rework every single planet with information from the field manual update. I can make a sub section of my personal site, where I can provide you with the correct content and you could rewrite the text to different/unique style. Lets begin... Neuling 16:06, 6 March 2011 (UTC)

I can see now why Neuling had no idea it was plagiarism. Since it was copied from another site, and because that site didn't cite the official source, he assumed it was written by that site's author(s).

Neuling, this is exactly why a) we do require references for every citation (and are free to delete contested data) and b) why we also require that only official sources be used. Data acquired from another site could very well be corrupted with fanon, but now you're representing it as official.

I recommend we delete and start over with a well-researched article. If I get consensus agreement with deletion, the article will be re-written by someone who feels its important enough to write correctly.--Revanche ^{(talk|contribs)} 18:58, 6 March 2011 (UTC)

Hey, I delete the content which was considered as plagarism and I replaced the content with verified text. I had began with wave one and the rest will follow soon. Each planet has it souce and it is hard to write alot of text with onyl one short noctice like the planet was secured in wave one of operation bulldog. With my rework the information getting also more accurate as before. I think one reference per planet is enougth and the units can verified by the deployment pages of dragon roars. Other sources are the Field Manual Update, Field Manual Comstar and other Field Manuals to. See yaNeuling 21:16, 6 March 2011 (UTC)

Neuling - I appreciate you trying to resolve this, but why would you copy directly from another source regardless?

Rev - So - its okay to plagiarize another website? Forgive me - that doesn't seem right to me. Granted, I think we should be allowed to take from one article on the wiki and post to another. After all, we have fair-use policies and so on. But other website's aren't usually free to use in a word for word context. Granted, I have used some myself when I believed the material to be based on canon material, but I always rewrote it and put in a "citation needed" tag. ClanWolverine101 22:43, 6 March 2011 (UTC)

regardless?

No, it is not proper to use another website at all, and Neuling's shown why. Only official sources may be used AS sources. Revanche ^{(talk|contribs)} 03:44, 9 March 2011 (UTC)

I had finished my rework of the article and removed also the plagarism sub. Also written text is from my mind and no copy of the original source. Neuling 17:17, 5 May 2011 (UTC)

Mess

The article is complete a mess, i started with double check the reference notes ect. but i stop do this, some ref. notes don't match refered page numbers ect. ect.--Doneve 16:00, 29 May 2012 (PDT)

Even given my rather obsessive editing tendencies, I'm forced to agree. Nuclear-Fridge (talk) 07:15, 10 June 2013 (PDT)

Shouldn't we move all the citations from the planet name to at the end of the outcome? It has made citations pop up in the table of contents and just looks bad. Also, I changed the "+"'s to commas to better organize the attacking/defending parties. I'll be completely overhauling this page now, so tell me if I am doing something wrong. -BobTheZombie (talk) 23:14, 1 August 2013 (PDT)

I noticed that there are units called "Amphigean"; is this supposed to say "amphibian", or is the original correct? -BobTheZombie (talk) 23:20, 6 August 2013 (PDT)