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==Rebecca "Spreadsheet" Taylor==
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Hi Nic, why is the image summary template gone when i uploade new images? In the past the template was automatical shown on the uploade page!--[[User:Doneve|Doneve]] ([[User talk:Doneve|talk]]) 04:29, 17 June 2016 (PDT)
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Excuse me Nic, never done this before, but how do I get Rebecca "Spreadsheet" Taylor added to the Canon character's page?  She's my late fiance and in Rec guide 12 [[User:Livewire2112|Livewire2112]] ([[User talk:Livewire2112|talk]]) 21:14, 12 May 2021 (EDT)
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:I've noticed this as well; I originally thought it was only removed from the "upload new version" option but it seems that all forms of file uploading do that now. -[[User:BobTheZombie|BobTheZombie]] ([[User talk:BobTheZombie|talk]]) 13:00, 17 June 2016 (PDT)
 
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::I'm sorry, I'm confused on what you're talking about.  Are you talking about the text box called Summary when you've selected your file?  Or was there another form that was shown after uploading your image that is now gone?  [[User:Nicjansma|Nicjansma]] ([[User talk:Nicjansma|talk]]) 21:00, 29 January 2017 (EST)
 
  
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: Hello, Livewire. I am reasonably sure that if the character is canon (I don't have #12 yet), they will be added in some fashion. However, if you want to prime the pump a bit, and are not familiar with wikis, I'd recommend opening a similar character (maybe from an earlier ''Guide'') and starting an article named [[Rebecca Taylor]], copying all the stuff (text & code) over into the new article, changing everything that doesn't pertain and adding what is needed. Some other Editor will be sure to follow behind and correct any mistakes or add needed info. Good luck, and I'll be looking for the article (and the ''Guide'').--[[User:Revanche|Revanche]] <sup>([[User_talk:Revanche|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Revanche|contribs]])</sup> 21:21, 12 May 2021 (EDT)
  
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Nic - Do you know when the Edit Counter list updates? This one? [[Special:UserScore|Edit Counter]] Thanks. [[User:ClanWolverine101|ClanWolverine101]] ([[User talk:ClanWolverine101|talk]]) 16:56, 6 March 2017 (EST)
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: Update: [https://www.sarna.net/wiki/index.php?title=List_of_Clan_Invasion_Kickstarter_Characters&diff=prev&oldid=676150 The process has started], Livewire, thanks to [[User:Dmon|Dmon]].--[[User:Revanche|Revanche]] <sup>([[User_talk:Revanche|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Revanche|contribs]])</sup> 22:07, 12 May 2021 (EDT)
  
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: Good catch, fixed!  Should be updated daily. [[User:Nicjansma|Nicjansma]] ([[User talk:Nicjansma|talk]]) 19:46, 30 March 2017 (EDT)
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== Potential issue in File:Götterdämmerung (system) 3151.svg ==
  
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It's only taken me about four or five years to think of asking this question, but... rather than us creating new maps for all of the planet articles from the published maps, if I gave you the updated list of correct coordinates, could you respawn new map images the way you did when first creating the planet articles? [[User:BrokenMnemonic|BrokenMnemonic]] ([[User talk:BrokenMnemonic|talk]]) 18:46, 18 March 2017 (EDT)
 
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: Absolutely!  With the X/Y fixed this time :)  Do you currently have a better list of images and X/Ys?  In addition, I could create "expanded" images, so when you click on a 2-jump image, it could grow out to 5 jumps, or more. [[User:Nicjansma|Nicjansma]] ([[User talk:Nicjansma|talk]]) 20:53, 30 March 2017 (EDT)
 
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:: Cool! But if this is going to happen, we need a solid database to work from. Not only X/Y coordinates (which in and of itself could be problematic enough!), but we need to decide on which system name we want to display on the maps (e.g. Hesperus II or Hesperus? Klathandu or Klathan? Norn or Verthandi? Carver, Carver V or Liberty?) and we'd also need to adress the question how to deal with the individual Mica Majority planets, nebulae, or special cases like Flannagan's Nebula.
 
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::I guess we're all aware of user gruese's [http://community.battletechgame.com/forums/threads/3607?page=1 map project thread] over at the HBS forum? There's some notes and corrections concerning the Sarna data in there that I've not yet come round to checking and working into Sarna.
 
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::And while it's a long shot, we might just try and ask [[Øystein Tvedten]] if he would kindly offer his "official" system position database for our project. I'm not sure if he and CGL would be cool with that, but it's certainly worth a try to see if a miracle happens. [[User:Frabby|Frabby]] ([[User talk:Frabby|talk]]) 05:30, 31 March 2017 (EDT)
 
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:::There are a lot of points here, so I'm going to try and tackle them in order - let me know if I miss something...
 
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:::1. Thanks to Volt and Bad_Syntax, there is a spreadsheet that contains accurate X/Y coordinates for every system that's been shown on a map, and which was calculated using some kind of ArcGIS software that Bad_Syntax's conversations with Øystein indicated were generating X/Y coordinates that were within decimal point value accurate to those used by Øystein. Whilst it's still a case of working backwards from the maps rather than forwards from the source data, if something's accurate to within 0.15 LY (which I think is the value Bad Sytanx quoted) then I think it's good enough for our work. Unfortunately, while I have a copy of the last version of the spreadsheet Volt generated, neither person is currently working on any BT stuff, so I don't think it's likely to get updated. That does mean that new planets are starting to appear that we won't have coordinates for - Jasmine in ''First Succession War'' is the example that springs to mind.
 
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:::2. I really like the idea of the maps as described - two jump radius in the small maps, jumping to five jump radius in the larger maps. I think that'll be useful to a lot of people looking to use the maps casually.
 
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:::3. I think that where names are concerned, given that this is maps, rather than articles, we should use the names that are going to be most recognisable to a majority of users. If we don't auto-generate maps, then the alternative is to use cut-up sections of published maps, and those don't use system names. Players generally know the notable planet names, not the system names, where there's a difference. A player looking for Alula Australis is going to look for Alula Australis because that's how it's referred to almost everywhere - they aren't going to look for (or consciously recognise) Xi Ursae Majoris 99.5% of the time. Where we can't autogenerate maps, we're going to have to use published maps, which also won't be using the system names but rather the well-known world name format currently in use, which means we'll end up with dissonance between visual sources, which is a bad thing. I'm all for using system names in the articles, and I'm the one updating all of the articles and creating redirects to make sure all of the articles work, so I'm committed to it, but switching our maps over to use the system names as well feels like a step that will only make life more confusing for the vast majority of users.
 
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:::4. For multi-world systems (Niops, etc) I think we should do what the system articles do - pick the coordinates of the most notable and use that for the map, and only include the one entry. There aren't that many, so I can go through a list manually and create the single entries. I remember seeing the conversations about how the Niopian planets technically being 1.4 LY away from each other was an artifact of how the maps had been done historically, not a reflection of reality, so I think that's a case of tidying up more than anything else. I don't think that a region like Flannagan's Nebulae should be on the map, because it's not a defined astrogeographical point - it's a nebula. We don't have a centrally-defined point around which to base it, unlike something like the Chaine Cluster. Where there's a crossover - and the Pleiades and Pirate's Haven clusters are the two I can think of - the map/article should simply use the coordinates of the most well-known point, be that Badlands or whichever one of the three names Pleiades worlds are in the middle. There are other stellar features that have articles but no coordinates, either already in place or due to be worked up - things like the Orion Nebula - and in general, I think those are better served through using extracts from existing published maps to highlight their location, rather than trying to shoehorn something into a mathematical/coding construct intended to work around defined points.
 
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:::5. I'm not aware of greuse's work - I haven't any particular interest in the HBS game, and there's a limit to the number of internet forums I have the headspace to engage with, I'm afraid. I've started reading through the thread, and from what I can see of the errors picked up, the coordinates ones are typoes from when Doneve and I were updating the articles the first time around. Those coordinates are being updated, but it takes a while - either Doneve is catching them when he generates the new system neighbours tables, or I'm catching them when I update the article format, but I'm 2-3 years into that and only 40% of the way through, so there's a ways to go yet. Greuse indicated that he'd fixed the ones he'd found though, so I'm not sure that's still much of an issue?
 
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:::6. I'm all for using the source data that Øystein used to generate the maps - first generation data is much better as a source - but I'm leery of contacting CGL because of the whole potential can of worms over Sarna's status as an unofficial fan wiki. I suspect that any data Øystein has is covered by NDAs or the equivalent privilege relating to his time as a CGL employee, so he may not be allowed to provide us with a copy. I don't want to be the one asking, though, for various reasons.
 
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:::I think I've weighed in on everything? I'm in a bit of a rush today... [[User:BrokenMnemonic|BrokenMnemonic]] ([[User talk:BrokenMnemonic|talk]]) 04:30, 3 April 2017 (EDT)
 
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::::I'll provide as much support here as I can for you guys.  Everything you've said sounds reasonable.  I think the best way I can help is to take the output of a curated list someone creates, and generate some beautiful jump-maps from them.  If there's something else before we get to that point that I can help with, let me know.  Otherwise I'll just plan on being the "jump image generator" :) [[User:Nicjansma|Nicjansma]] ([[User talk:Nicjansma|talk]]) 22:00, 22 May 2017 (EDT)
 
  
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While reviwing images without category, I found out this one File:Götterdämmerung (system) 3151.svg, which had no category nor information unlike the rest. I remember you have the "macro" that creates them and prepares them and adds a category because I asked this to help clean the [https://www.sarna.net/wiki/Special:UncategorizedFiles "Uncategorized Files"] page. No idea why this one got nuts. I added the information. Maybe it is because of the nice german spelling, but it is not the only planet like this. Hope you can review and thanks in advance!--[[User:Pserratv|Pserratv]] ([[User talk:Pserratv|talk]]) 08:23, 5 November 2021 (EDT)
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: Perfect thanks!  I had to hand-upload that file, because the umlaut caused issues with the initial batch.  I think the rest were OK.  Appreciate you added the category! [[User:Nicjansma|Nicjansma]] ([[User talk:Nicjansma|talk]]) 21:07, 8 November 2021 (EST)
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:: No problem. Thanks to you for the macro and all other things you do for this page!--[[User:Pserratv|Pserratv]] ([[User talk:Pserratv|talk]]) 11:04, 9 November 2021 (EST)
  
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Nic - No rush, but should the awards for 2016 be processed? Thanks. [[User:ClanWolverine101|ClanWolverine101]] ([[User talk:ClanWolverine101|talk]]) 18:58, 30 April 2017 (EDT)
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: My bad it took so long!  (Newborn at home!)  Was happy to give out the awards today. [[User:Nicjansma|Nicjansma]] ([[User talk:Nicjansma|talk]]) 21:55, 22 May 2017 (EDT)
 
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:: No problem and belated congratulations! [[User:ClanWolverine101|ClanWolverine101]] ([[User talk:ClanWolverine101|talk]]) 07:17, 24 May 2017 (EDT)
 
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Yeah - congrats for the newborn! :) [[User:Frabby|Frabby]] ([[User talk:Frabby|talk]]) 07:33, 24 May 2017 (EDT)
 
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:::Congratulations on the newborn! I'm now an uncle four times over, and all my nieces are below 19 months in age - and it's great getting to spend time with tiny humans. [[User:BrokenMnemonic|BrokenMnemonic]] ([[User talk:BrokenMnemonic|talk]]) 02:59, 25 May 2017 (EDT)
 
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::::Congratulations on the new baby [[User:Dark Jaguar|Dark Jaguar]] ([[User talk:Dark Jaguar|talk]]) 21:28, 27 May 2017 (EDT)
 
  
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Hi Nik, I've seen that the file with only have this category: [[:Category:Missing copyright information]] do not appear as Uncategorized... unfortunately, there are a lot of files with miss this but also other information and it is quite complex to find which ones only have the missing copyright... as those ones are missing some category else... Is there any way for you to help identify them?--[[User:Pserratv|Pserratv]] ([[User talk:Pserratv|talk]]) 08:21, 14 January 2022 (EST)
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: Hey Pserratv!  Sorry I'm not fully following.  You're looking for files that are *only* missing Copyright, but don't have any other categories assigned?  [[User:Nicjansma|Nicjansma]] ([[User talk:Nicjansma|talk]]) 14:59, 17 January 2022 (EST)
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::Yes Nick, that it is. I want to see which images are missing a real category as missing copyright is a "commonplace" not a category for me. It is good to know they are missing copyright, but for me it is even more to know which ones are missing a place like being an image of a Free Worlds League character...--[[User:Pserratv|Pserratv]] ([[User talk:Pserratv|talk]]) 05:07, 19 January 2022 (EST)
  
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Morning, Nic. Thought I'd share this tidbit with you: MW 1.28.2 automatically lists cited references under a section called "references", without any need for the ref code (''i.e.'', '''<nowiki><references/></nowiki>'''). Not a reason to update alone, but I discovered it by accident on one of my wikis. Cheers. --[[User:Revanche|Revanche]] <sup>([[User_talk:Revanche|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Revanche|contribs]])</sup> 11:38, 25 June 2017 (EDT)
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==Bug with Module:LuaTest==
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== [[Template:InfoBoxBattleMech]] ==
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[[Module:LuaTest]] shows up as a blue link in [[Special:LonelyPages]], but the page appears to be deleted. Adding it to [[User:Talvin/Project_Orphanage#Technical_Pages]] shows it as a red link, and it does not disappear from the Orphans when that cache refreshes overnight. This is hardly a showstopper bug or even close, but it's odd. [[User:Talvin|Talvin]] ([[User talk:Talvin|talk]]) 10:57, 27 February 2022 (EST)
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: Strange, I couldn't find any way to make it disappear either.  Must be a side-effect of it being a LUA module.  Since it's not affecting anything else (that I can tell) I'll leave it for now, but if there's a pattern of this happening I can dig into it more.  Thanks for bringing to my attention! [[User:Nicjansma|Nicjansma]] ([[User talk:Nicjansma|talk]]) 22:26, 22 June 2022 (EDT)
  
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Hello there. I've [[BattleTechWiki talk:Project BattleMechs#New infobox|been told]] that you are the one to speak to about scripted/bot tasks.
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I made some changes to [[Template:InfoBoxBattleMech]] to improve its functionality, but they do mean that [[:Category:Empty or nonstandard InfoBoxBattleMech tech base parameter|hundreds of mech articles]] need updating to use [http://www.sarna.net/wiki/index.php?title=Template%3AInfoBoxBattleMech%2Fdoc&type=revision&diff=447100&oldid=349082 the new parameters]. I don't know the first thing about bots or scripting to avoid having to do that by hand. Do you? [[User:Cease to Hope|Cease to Hope]] ([[User talk:Cease to Hope|talk]]) 19:50, 9 September 2017 (EDT)
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[[:Category:Spanish language products]] is a double redirect, and it looks like it is locked up in the change propagation process since 26 March 2022.  It appears to need deletion.--[[User:Talvin|Talvin]] ([[User talk:Talvin|talk]]) 10:15, 14 June 2022 (EDT)
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: Thanks. I had to set <code>$smwgChangePropagationProtection = false;</code> first, then remove the page. <code>$smwgChangePropagationProtection</code> is now back to <code>true</code>. [[User:Nicjansma|Nicjansma]] ([[User talk:Nicjansma|talk]]) 22:32, 22 June 2022 (EDT)

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Rebecca "Spreadsheet" Taylor[edit]

Excuse me Nic, never done this before, but how do I get Rebecca "Spreadsheet" Taylor added to the Canon character's page? She's my late fiance and in Rec guide 12 Livewire2112 (talk) 21:14, 12 May 2021 (EDT)

Hello, Livewire. I am reasonably sure that if the character is canon (I don't have #12 yet), they will be added in some fashion. However, if you want to prime the pump a bit, and are not familiar with wikis, I'd recommend opening a similar character (maybe from an earlier Guide) and starting an article named Rebecca Taylor, copying all the stuff (text & code) over into the new article, changing everything that doesn't pertain and adding what is needed. Some other Editor will be sure to follow behind and correct any mistakes or add needed info. Good luck, and I'll be looking for the article (and the Guide).--Revanche (talk|contribs) 21:21, 12 May 2021 (EDT)
Update: The process has started, Livewire, thanks to Dmon.--Revanche (talk|contribs) 22:07, 12 May 2021 (EDT)

Potential issue in File:Götterdämmerung (system) 3151.svg[edit]

Hi Nik,

While reviwing images without category, I found out this one File:Götterdämmerung (system) 3151.svg, which had no category nor information unlike the rest. I remember you have the "macro" that creates them and prepares them and adds a category because I asked this to help clean the "Uncategorized Files" page. No idea why this one got nuts. I added the information. Maybe it is because of the nice german spelling, but it is not the only planet like this. Hope you can review and thanks in advance!--Pserratv (talk) 08:23, 5 November 2021 (EDT)

Perfect thanks! I had to hand-upload that file, because the umlaut caused issues with the initial batch. I think the rest were OK. Appreciate you added the category! Nicjansma (talk) 21:07, 8 November 2021 (EST)
No problem. Thanks to you for the macro and all other things you do for this page!--Pserratv (talk) 11:04, 9 November 2021 (EST)

Help with Uncategorized files[edit]

Hi Nik, I've seen that the file with only have this category: Category:Missing copyright information do not appear as Uncategorized... unfortunately, there are a lot of files with miss this but also other information and it is quite complex to find which ones only have the missing copyright... as those ones are missing some category else... Is there any way for you to help identify them?--Pserratv (talk) 08:21, 14 January 2022 (EST)

Hey Pserratv! Sorry I'm not fully following. You're looking for files that are *only* missing Copyright, but don't have any other categories assigned? Nicjansma (talk) 14:59, 17 January 2022 (EST)
Yes Nick, that it is. I want to see which images are missing a real category as missing copyright is a "commonplace" not a category for me. It is good to know they are missing copyright, but for me it is even more to know which ones are missing a place like being an image of a Free Worlds League character...--Pserratv (talk) 05:07, 19 January 2022 (EST)

Bug with Module:LuaTest[edit]

Hi Nic,
Module:LuaTest shows up as a blue link in Special:LonelyPages, but the page appears to be deleted. Adding it to User:Talvin/Project_Orphanage#Technical_Pages shows it as a red link, and it does not disappear from the Orphans when that cache refreshes overnight. This is hardly a showstopper bug or even close, but it's odd. Talvin (talk) 10:57, 27 February 2022 (EST)

Strange, I couldn't find any way to make it disappear either. Must be a side-effect of it being a LUA module. Since it's not affecting anything else (that I can tell) I'll leave it for now, but if there's a pattern of this happening I can dig into it more. Thanks for bringing to my attention! Nicjansma (talk) 22:26, 22 June 2022 (EDT)

Looks like a Bug.[edit]

Category:Spanish language products is a double redirect, and it looks like it is locked up in the change propagation process since 26 March 2022. It appears to need deletion.--Talvin (talk) 10:15, 14 June 2022 (EDT)

Thanks. I had to set $smwgChangePropagationProtection = false; first, then remove the page. $smwgChangePropagationProtection is now back to true. Nicjansma (talk) 22:32, 22 June 2022 (EDT)

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