User talk:Scaletail

I encourage you to read through my archived talk posts. A question you have may well be answered there. You should also check out the FAQ. --Scaletail

Archive 1 (Dec. 2006-Sep. 2007) includes welcomes, as well as discussions about the list of Davion rulers and why there is confusion between Blue Diamond and Menkent.

Archive 2 (Oct. 2007-Feb. 2008) includes responses to welcomes, an explanation of the difference between the Marauder IIC and the Marauder II C, my opinion on linking from manufacturing center articles, becoming a SysOp, a discussion concerning the consensus policy, years & the timeline, usage of .svg files, and the reason that red-linked categories give that weird message at the top.

Archive 3 (Apr. 2008-May 2009) has all sorts of stuff.

Moratorium

Scaletail, good job with the tag. I was thinking that adding a Category:Moratorium to the tag itself, so that each article under the moratorium would be in the cat, would allow us to better police expired periods. I'd do it myself, but my wiki-break has resulted in a loss of some wiki-skills. In any case, open for discussion. --Revanche ^{(talk|contribs)} 09:13, 31 May 2009 (PDT)

Hm. I thought I had done that. Let me go fix.... Nice to have you back, btw. You on leave? --Scaletail 11:43, 31 May 2009 (PDT)

Naw, not really, no. I was transferred back before the ship (she's on deployment) and now am located in Gulfport (at a Seabee base). Still getting settled in but just got my PC set back up. I am simply amazed at how much work has gone on here. Great to see...though we still need to increase the weekly base of editors. Frabby, Cyc and you are still the most common editors, but I can see some relatively new faces (Wrangler, for one) that are making their marks. I, for one, would love to get the MW software updated. I'll see what I can do to get Nic inspired. --Revanche ^{(talk|contribs)} 17:00, 31 May 2009 (PDT)

Don't forget about Alkemita, who has really taken charge of articles on commands. I know I've slowed down a lot. Alas, being thrust into the real world has taken its toll. No more two-day marathon writings sessions for me. I'm mostly just trying to keep the level of quality up. --Scaletail 18:30, 1 June 2009 (PDT)

Empty Articles discussion

Hey, Scaletail: I'd like you to weigh in here, since I know you have an opinion on this. Thanks. --Revanche ^{(talk|contribs)} 14:39, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

Ion Rush

A seriously good bio. Good job.--Revanche ^{(talk|contribs)} 03:07, 25 August 2009 (UTC)

Looking for a Battle Template

I am looking to list all the participants in the Capellan Civil War. Do you know any good templates I can use? --Aldous, 18 October 2009 (UTC)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Infobox_Military_Conflict. --Scaletail 17:33, 18 October 2009 (UTC)

24.34.239.208 unsource articles

Hi Scaletail. I'm trying to clean up the articles that 24.34.239.208 if rapidly posting, which are unsourced. Some of the information author is posting is correct, but some of it has wild eye mentions i can't figure out where they got them from. Operation Scatter and Free Worlds League-Lyran Commonwealth War‎ for examples have mentions of don't come from sources books i've found. Is there way to talk to this person about citing some of the information their posting? I believe Rev has tried contact the author, but no response. I'll try to sort these article out, but i'm not sure if you want keep articles as they appear. Their basicly timeline notes verses actual articles. -- Wrangler 02:56, 16 November 2009 (UTC)

To my knowledge, nobody has made an attempt to directly contact the editor in question. I've posted numerous statements and questions on talk pages, but it's almost impossible to get in touch with an unregistered user whose IP keeps changing (to the best of my knowledge). The articles contain no sources or citations and little attempt at wikification. For all intents and purposes, these articles are being created and abandoned. I believe this is exactly the situation Revanche had in mind when he suggested deleting unsourced articles. If you want to take the effort to find sources for the information, it would be appreciated. With sources, at least I can feel good about merging the information into other articles. Information that is being created and not referenced may simply be deleted, though that would be the last recourse. --Scaletail 01:43, 17 November 2009 (UTC)

Okay then. I'll attempt to source the ones i think i Can salvage. Hopefully the poster will realize they need register and add references to the the articles. -- Wrangler 11:54, 17 November 2009 (UTC)

MWDA Dossiers

Scaletail, I just posted this on Wrangler's talk page, and thought I should let you know as well.--mbear

Wrangler, I've split the large PDF's from http://www.warrenborn.com/ into single page PDF files. Before I upload them though, or do any other modifications, I wanted to let you know that apparently I can export the PDFs to plain text which we could upload directly to BTW. (Be a big help for the Principes Guards, Hastati Sentinels, and Triarii Protectors articles.) I would have done this text export, but thought I should talk to you and Scaletail first. Thoughts? (Will crosspost to Scaletails talk page.)--Mbear 17:16, 28 November 2009 (UTC)

Kept them as PDF files, and uploaded them. Wrangler's working on fixing deader links.--Mbear 21:48, 30 November 2009 (UTC)

Awards

Scaletail, I took the liberty of installing an awards board on your main page. Please place it where it best fits your design. Happy New Year! --Revanche ^{(talk|contribs)} 04:57, 1 January 2010 (UTC)

Hetzer

Hey, thanks for the variants! they aren't included in my ancient german version of the TRO! learn something everyday and stuff :D --RagTag 21:03, 28 January 2010 (UTC)

Founder's Outstanding Member of the Year Award

Hi Scaletail. I wanted to give you Founder's Outstanding Member of the Year Award. I've seen the contributions you've made over the past year reach all parts of the wiki, including interacting with other editors and admins, which I think is a big part of what makes this wiki so successful. You've done a lot to "clean up" posts which isn't the most glamorous thing to do, but needs to be done. Thanks for all of your hard work, edits and contributions. Congrats! Nicjansma 06:32, 8 February 2010 (UTC)

Remove of Blood Spirit table

Hi, the tables that I added to every clans was the first step. In the next phase I will add insignias and a short information about the unit. Please let my work unchanged. decide when i finished. I think a overview which galaxy containts which clusters is helpful. Tnx Neuling 06:49, 17 March 2010 (UTC)

Those things will already go into the articles for each unit and Galaxy. Isn't it redundant to have all that information in two different places? --Scaletail 02:29, 19 March 2010 (UTC)

Game Notes

Hey Scaletail - I saw your post on the "Armor Tonnages" discussion, and I wanted to know specifically what we are and are not allowed to put in equipment descriptions. One of the projects I've been working on is adding "Game Notes" to many of equipment articles. (You can see one such example of my work in the MASC section.) Please note I do not copy from the book, nor do I quote it more than absolutely necessary. Is this permitted? ClanWolverine101

There are no "specifics" enshrined in policies or even guidelines anywhere. It's just this vague idea that we don't want anybody to reconstruct 'Mechs for use in the game from the articles on 'Mechs here. I don't have a problem with what you wrote on MASC. --Scaletail 02:32, 19 March 2010 (UTC)

Template:Sign

Thanks! I guess I didn't realize that the ~~~~ code would auto-translate to my name when saved. Thanks for fixing.--Revanche ^{(talk|contribs)} 02:59, 19 March 2010 (UTC)

Oh, that's what you were trying to do. I'm too tired to have given it any thought. My pleasure. --Scaletail 03:00, 19 March 2010 (UTC)

Image Policy

Hoolla i give you the for your response about Image Policy.Doneve 01:38, 24 March 2010 (UTC)

Random Act of Appreciation Award

Scaletail, for various contributions on improving the overall quality of the site, I award you the.

Thanks! ClanWolverine101 21:45, 30 March 2010 (UTC)

deletion of content why

I can not understood why you deleted my work. I take the content and wrote it in my word what is worng with that. Explain my please. Nobody say to me that the articles about the FWLM were plagiarized. I hope for an anwser... Neuling 21:22, 3 April 2010 (UTC)

I will have a second look at the content that you added for the FWLM-related articles. The problem is that the articles I deleted were not written entirely in your own words. Since many topics in BT are difficult to use more than one source to write about, considerable leeway is usually allowed. In these instances, however, you used phrases that were reproduced word-for-word, which is plagiarism. I appreciate that you are actively trying not to run afoul of this issue. I don't know how you write, so it's difficult for me to offer help, but Revanche left some good advice on Jherbert2's talk page. --Scaletail 21:38, 3 April 2010 (UTC)

It take two hours of hard work to rewrite the text of the deleted aricles. I see for every article that I wrote, there will be the damocles sword of deletion. When it your opinion that is a copy it will be deleted with no change to rewrte my work. Thats life... — The preceding unsigned comment was posted by Neuling (talk • contribs) on 3 April 2010.

It is not my opinion that there were phrases that were exactly the same, it is a fact. If I may be so bold, based upon your previous statement, I think your writing style may be the problem. I'm working off of an assumption here, but if you rewrote the text from the sourcebook, that would explain why it sounds just like Field Manual: Federated Suns, why it's laid out in exactly the same way, and why many phrases are written exactly alike. If my assumptions are correct, I strongly encourage you to read Revanche's advice, because it that is exactly what he is addressing in the link I posted above. --Scaletail 22:07, 3 April 2010 (UTC)

I try another way to write. I will take the infos, write simple sentences and hope that will be accepted. It saves time for me and make it easer. Thanx for your advice and your right some words/part of sentences were the same/sounds like the orginal but that was not my intention. with greeting Neuling 22:19, 3 April 2010 (UTC)

You have done it. I hold all further work in the near future for sarna.net. You are the only administrator how deleted my work and give me no chance for a rewrite and i know that i wrote every word by my own. You deleted articles with a work time of 6 hours. I will not waste time in the future. I ask for support and i get it. I know the tale of sissiphyus. And the stone rolll back from the top when i finished a article. I had bold plans but they r.i.p.... Neuling 06:37, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

I made a last attemp. I'm interested how long it take for another deletion or the phrase plagiarized will stand in my watchlist...— The preceding unsigned comment was posted by Neuling (talk • contribs) 02:48, 4 April 2010 .

Neuling, please consider taking a break, instead of quitting completely.

Scaletail was doing exactly what he was charged with doing by Nic: protect the wiki and ensure it runs smoothly. Scaletail does this for free, much as you add content for free - as a labor of interest (if not love). The material you wrote is still there (Nic is required to completely delete it from the historical entries), so its not like you don't have something to work worth, but the site is protected from legal threats from either the owners or the licensees. Scaletail did his job.

Many of us do our writings using materials off the main spaces or even on paper, before putting it in the articles. There is no reason why you can't do that also. The risk in adding plagiarized content to the site is that you may (unintentionally) forget about it and it remains for a copyright lawyer to challenge (threatening everything everyone has done) or have some reader think that everyone who has written on that article is complicit in the plagiarizing and, therefore, does it himself, adding to the problem.

Again, please consider taking a break and don't get so emotionally involved. It should only be fun, but rules have to be followed. --Revanche ^{(talk|contribs)} 12:12, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

To all administrator, I think my new style is accept in such cases like regional training battalions and combat centers. I agree my emotions were involded in my words (I think its human). The source of my anger was the deletion with out a message to me to change the article. And I hope I can take the strutcture of a existing article and forged it with the content to a new one with out a copy of the origninal text. I'm glade that not every article from me is considered as a copy. And i will use more tables again for better understanding that the article is a orginal from me. also it gives me more opportunities. And I have one wish, before anyone change one of my table please ask me what i will think about it. I respect your work to and change nothing from the major articles, i put only my content to it. Neuling 12:57, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

Jackson Davion

Scaletail - Great job. ClanWolverine101 16:45, 4 April 2010 (UTC) p.s. Do you not post editor awards on your page?

One thing you should know about Scaletail: he's in a minority of fans who feel that the game is too militaristic, that primary characters that serve in military leadership roles are over-emphasized (which is why he's a BIG Katherine Morgan Steiner-Davion fan) and that the game universe should really have a chance to 'reset' and have a period of peace, with the story focusing on the politics of the characters, rather than their military conquests. Ribbons like these just add to the push for new fans to become more militarily-saavy. Oh, and I'm known to lie thru my teeth sometimes.--Revanche ^{(talk|contribs)} 20:55, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

Rev - I do not know you nearly well enough to know when you are kidding.

Also - Katherine was the Queen Bitch of the Cosmos. ClanWolverine101 21:19, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

Oh it gives so many bitch or bitches or or or...in th BT universe, do you want a bitch category: no no it was a joke, but you take a tick on the ball there come in next time by myself.Doneve 21:27, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

Gallery

Hy Scaletail tanks for fix my grammer.Doneve 20:01, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

I forgot a question, ok this is a, american page, but why we must translate in the orgin. american translation, is the english and german translation to boring, some user's are not from the big ocean country, or came frome other countrys, england, germany, australia...ok it gives difference, but a little bit feeling in this spart is usefully, from the not so perfect writers, its my opinion.Doneve 20:18, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

BattleTech is, at its roots, an American game/product and being published in the US is one of the criteria for canonical publications according to the Line Developer. For this reason, American English is considered the "standard" language that should be used on BTW. There are German, French, Italian and even Japanese versions of BattleTech but they are only translations from the US stuff most of the time. Frabby 20:31, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

Okidoky you give me the answer, but i learn in, we write colour and not colorDoneve 20:34, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, and don't get too caught up on whether you are using the American or British spelling; us Yanks will fix (without slapping hands) when we see them. --Revanche ^{(talk|contribs)} 20:46, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

Ha ha ha, i make a notice.Doneve 20:51, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

You're welcome. The Manual of Style specifically says that you can write in English English or Australian English or German English or whatever you want, but that it should eventually be converted to American English. Though I suspect we have as many editors who would understand a German BTW better. --Scaletail 22:17, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

No kidding: I count 4 regulars that are German-speakers as a primary language.--Revanche ^{(talk|contribs)} 00:34, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

BC Stories & Scenarios

Scaletail, I 'know' the answer, but wanted to confirm with you. I've seen both Frabby and you make updates based on BattleCorps releases. As a new member also, I just found myself halfway through an update of Brotherhood of Randis based on the Lost Souls scenario when I remembered the moratorium policy. How do you handle this? Remember individually when a story is released, review Roosterboy's posts for 2 month marks, another method? --Revanche ^{(talk|contribs)} 12:02, 13 April 2010 (UTC)

(Chiming in since you mentioned my name too) - I didn't consciously apply the moratorium to BC stories so far, but more out of a lack of though than deliberate decision. I think I've even written articles on stories the day the story was released. The way I write them, I take care to ensure the article appropriately milks the story for information but doesn't go into so much detail as to rendering reading the story pointless. You could say in a way the articles are teasers. But if you feel the moratorium should apply, I'll comply. Frabby 12:31, 13 April 2010 (UTC)

Different issue, in my opinion: we write articles about the source as soon as they are released; we don't add to (other) subject articles to after moratorium. I thnk you're in the clear (if I read the above correctly).--Revanche ^{(talk|contribs)} 14:39, 13 April 2010 (UTC)

My appologies

Self explanitory: but I will say it is wrong to copy someone elses amterial and use it for your own. --Tyler Jorgensson 16:22, 13 April 2010 (UTC)