Talk:Unseen

Other Unseens

Wasn't the Stone Rhino an unseen?--173.66.141.199 19:41, 15 July 2009 (UTC)

Yes it was, it was part of the 2nd batch of unseen(s). Author may not had remembered that, along with the Raijin and the Nexus. -- Wrangler 22:02, 3 May 2010 (UTC)

BattleMaster IIC

Where is this coming from? There never been a canon Reseen/unseen BattleMaster IIC design. Only Clan influenced BattleMaster was the BattleMaster C, Red Corsair's BattleMaster, and the refitted one from Tukayyid (scenario pack). The Red Corsair was never given or named designation with "IIC". -- Wrangler 22:02, 3 May 2010 (UTC)

That's how it has been referred everywhere, obviously after the assumed scheme shown in other mech types. I didn't intend to create confusion but it was reasonable without making something up, and create more inconsistency. We could put it on a to be determined classification/name list. A kind of all present earmark/reminder.

On another note it seems the Super Griffin and Super Wasp have been given an exempt, but I can confirm it for sure yet.

-- Almighty 16:24, 4 May 2010 (UTC)

Regarding the Super Wasp and Super Griffin, it should be pointed out that there are no canonical pictures of either in the TotBW sourcebook - the articles provide the regular pictures of a (standard) Wasp and Griffin, respectively. As such, both 'Mechs do not belong on the list. Frabby 23:06, 9 May 2010 (UTC)

Yes. However, it stands to reason that they look the same. The unseen rules will apply as soon as someone uses those pictures. Almighty 23:23, 17 May 2010 (UTC)

Unseen IICs

Wait a minute... the IICs from TRO3055 are also done by Victor Musical Industries But I know they're derived from such designs. I have the copy of the original 1992 Technical Readout 3055, within mech images such as the Marauder IIC, it says "Battlemech Design (C) 1992 Victor Musical Industries, Inc." --76.170.230.129 19:46, 9 May 2010 (UTC)

Going by the Gallleon tank and Leopard DS, I think a picture/depiction is only unseen if it was specifically declared, irrespective of where it came from. To wit, if something wasn't declared unseen, then it isn't. Frabby 23:06, 9 May 2010 (UTC)

Since, the agreements are changing and the matter has not really been settled. These design images should be careful dealt with. As we have seen the upcoming PC game "MechWarrior 3015" already ran into trouble by using the Warhammer. Almighty 23:23, 17 May 2010 (UTC)

How best to incorporate this info?

It looks like there's a quasi-official list of the current Unseen (pretty much all the Macross mecha, with a couple of exceptions) on the official CBT boards (this page, look at Rule 8). Should this be taken as gospel (along with the latest Historical Turning Point PDFs) as to what is and what isn't officially an Unseen as far as Catalyst/InMediaRes/FanPro/WizKids are concerned? 68.5.200.198 06:56, 18 July 2010 (UTC)

Firebee and Hornet?

Since when are they part of the Unseen?