BattleTechWiki talk:Project Unfinished Book/JTP:New Avalon/Unwelcome Guests

Starting

Afternoon, CW. Just a few starting points:

• The intent of the Unfinished Book Project (UBP) is to document every fact of the assignment at least once on the wiki, multiple places where appropriate. The more degrees removed from the mentioned subjects on the assignment, the less granularity an article's added material must have. For example, James McFarland is not mentioned in "Unwelcome Guests" at all, but because he's the CO of the 10th, it stands to reason his page should make mention of the Battle of McCarel Farm. However, it won't need as much detail as the 10th's page will.
• Don't forget your citations. You'll pick up tricks to make their inclusion more efficient. Unless asked, I'll leave that up to you.
• Don't take my involvement as negative. While I'll be critical, my role as fact checker is intended that way. Likewise, when you play Fact Checker (and then Mission leader), you'll need to be similarly involved.
• Normally, a mission (in this case JTP: Luthien) develops from front-to-back, meaning some articles that you'll be starting here (Avalon City, for example) would normally already be somewhat developed by preceding material. If we (collectively) feel that we're missing too much by jumping ahead this time, we can re-engage and start with the first assignment.
• You'll recognize Step 3 from its original version (as it appeared on your talk page). That should help get you started.
• When you complete an article, just put it in your table/graph. No need to wikilink it. If you'd prefer to have me hold off on commenting for some reason (you don't feel its quite ready), either leave it off or put an asterisk after the name, and I won't critique it until you clear it.
• Ask me questions, debate with me, etc. Don't feel like you're doing this in a vaccuum.--Revanche ^{(talk|contribs)} 14:31, 20 March 2012 (PDT)

Questions!

Question 1 : Do we think Avalon County is worthy of its own article? ClanWolverine101 17:12, 20 March 2012 (PDT)

Hm this is a good question, at this time i say yes, following the [subject]. I think it can included when a Geography of New Avalon page is created, take a look on this example: Geography of Luthien, we can set up a redirect etc., this is my point of view, but some critism is welcom.--Doneve 17:36, 20 March 2012 (PDT)

Evolving answer: UBP doesn't judge notability...kinda stole the theme from the actual Unfinished Book Movement. If it's mentioned, it's notable. However, I conceded Basin Lake doesn't deserve its own article, hence the creation of the "Geography of [planet]" articles (with re-directs to that article for all entries).

If I could find a similar subject name for an article about (ahem) 'less notable' man-made structures, designations, etc, I'd say let's build Avalon County into that article.

So, what would be the equivalent of Geography of New Avalon, but for constructs to include counties, parks, memorials, facilities, etc.?--Revanche ^{(talk|contribs)} 19:30, 20 March 2012 (PDT)

I'll say this: There's a lot of material on New Avalon. From Avalon City to the 'mech factories to the NAIS to a bunch of other places. Does New Avalon merit an in-depth article on this geography? Certainly. Does every element require its own article? Not sure that's wise. I've always been of the mind that these "eternal stub" articles aren't in Sarna's best interests for aesthetic reasons. (Look at most SLDF unit entries that are only mentioned once in the SL sourcebook.) So that's my two cents. ClanWolverine101 11:41, 21 March 2012 (PDT)

Related - re: Harold McCarel. Does one farmer, mentioned once on one page of one book, merit his own article, considering he will likely never be mentioned again? ClanWolverine101 11:44, 21 March 2012 (PDT)