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=== Neveron article template===
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==Rebecca "Spreadsheet" Taylor==
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Nic, ask a favor? Since you're familiar with your forums, could you ask someone on the Neveron side of the house to pop into my talkpage and suggest what an article on each Neveron faction should have? I'm thinking InfoBox type stuff (name, origination date, size, alliances, membership #, location, etc.) and then main article stuff (founder, history, significant events, external pages). In other words, other than what I just listed, what would a neveron player expect to see if he pulled up his faction's article on BTW? --[[User:Revanche|Revanche]] 23:09, 29 September 2006 (CDT)
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Excuse me Nic, never done this before, but how do I get Rebecca "Spreadsheet" Taylor added to the Canon character's page? She's my late fiance and in Rec guide 12 [[User:Livewire2112|Livewire2112]] ([[User talk:Livewire2112|talk]]) 21:14, 12 May 2021 (EDT)
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: Some sort of template would be very helpful. I have tried to develop an interesting template for my own faction (Kommando Korps), including topics that would be neat for players outside the faction to comment on (enemies, friends, etc). Feel free to take a look at it if you'd like. [[User:Superjuke|Superjuke]] 14:02, 14 October 2006 (CDT)
 
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:: You're breaking new ground here!  Feel free to develop it however you want. Looking great so far! [[User:Nicjansma|Nicjansma]] 21:19, 21 November 2006 (CST)
 
  
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: Hello, Livewire. I am reasonably sure that if the character is canon (I don't have #12 yet), they will be added in some fashion. However, if you want to prime the pump a bit, and are not familiar with wikis, I'd recommend opening a similar character (maybe from an earlier ''Guide'') and starting an article named [[Rebecca Taylor]], copying all the stuff (text & code) over into the new article, changing everything that doesn't pertain and adding what is needed. Some other Editor will be sure to follow behind and correct any mistakes or add needed info. Good luck, and I'll be looking for the article (and the ''Guide'').--[[User:Revanche|Revanche]] <sup>([[User_talk:Revanche|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Revanche|contribs]])</sup> 21:21, 12 May 2021 (EDT)
  
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: Update: [https://www.sarna.net/wiki/index.php?title=List_of_Clan_Invasion_Kickstarter_Characters&diff=prev&oldid=676150 The process has started], Livewire, thanks to [[User:Dmon|Dmon]].--[[User:Revanche|Revanche]] <sup>([[User_talk:Revanche|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Revanche|contribs]])</sup> 22:07, 12 May 2021 (EDT)
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I'm very impressed with the level of improvement being made to the Sarna wiki almost daily. It's a very large project, but it is getting done and that deserves plenty of kudos. [[User:Superjuke|Katrar]] 15:52, 14 October 2006 (CDT)
 
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: Thanks!  I'm excited you're contributing.  We're still all getting the ball rolling in a wiki form, but I have lots of ideas for things to expand upon.  Very glad you're here!  [[User:Nicjansma|Nicjansma]] 23:40, 14 October 2006 (CDT)
 
  
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== Potential issue in File:Götterdämmerung (system) 3151.svg ==
  
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===Fiction in Templates===
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Nic, why do you think that the four fiction stories are showing up in the Templates category? --[[User:Revanche|Revanche (admin)]] 22:39, 13 November 2006 (CST)
 
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: I added the <nowiki><noinclude>[[Category:Templates]]</noinclude></nowiki> around the category on the [[Template:NoEdit]] page.  That means that pages that include the ''NoEdit'' template won't include the Category part of the template, so they themselves won't be in the templates category. [[User:Nicjansma|Nicjansma]] 01:31, 14 November 2006 (CST)
 
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:: Got it...thanks. Lesson learned. --[[User:Revanche|Revanche (admin)]] 01:37, 14 November 2006 (CST)
 
  
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While reviwing images without category, I found out this one File:Götterdämmerung (system) 3151.svg, which had no category nor information unlike the rest. I remember you have the "macro" that creates them and prepares them and adds a category because I asked this to help clean the [https://www.sarna.net/wiki/Special:UncategorizedFiles "Uncategorized Files"] page. No idea why this one got nuts. I added the information. Maybe it is because of the nice german spelling, but it is not the only planet like this. Hope you can review and thanks in advance!--[[User:Pserratv|Pserratv]] ([[User talk:Pserratv|talk]]) 08:23, 5 November 2021 (EDT)
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: Perfect thanks!  I had to hand-upload that file, because the umlaut caused issues with the initial batch.  I think the rest were OK.  Appreciate you added the category! [[User:Nicjansma|Nicjansma]] ([[User talk:Nicjansma|talk]]) 21:07, 8 November 2021 (EST)
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:: No problem. Thanks to you for the macro and all other things you do for this page!--[[User:Pserratv|Pserratv]] ([[User talk:Pserratv|talk]]) 11:04, 9 November 2021 (EST)
  
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== Help with Uncategorized files ==
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Nic, as discussed, I've advertised the site on my own forums. At least two have joined in and started some editing. Jimmy has already posted a story, made a few corrections and joined Project: BattleMechs. I think he's quite pumped. Bowtie Bob, another one of my forum admins, has also dropped by and made a few 'starter' edits. We'll see if we can pique his interest, as he wanders about. I'm anticipating the famous Medron Pryde to pop in and grace us with a number of excellent fan fiction. --[[User:Revanche|Revanche (admin)]] 01:37, 14 November 2006 (CST)
 
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: This is great Revanche, thanks a ton for spearheading this.  The new users are making some great contributions and it's all wonderful that they're willing to help out.  Let's get the ball rolling! [[User:Nicjansma|Nicjansma]] 21:19, 21 November 2006 (CST)
 
  
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Hi Nik, I've seen that the file with only have this category: [[:Category:Missing copyright information]] do not appear as Uncategorized... unfortunately, there are a lot of files with miss this but also other information and it is quite complex to find which ones only have the missing copyright... as those ones are missing some category else... Is there any way for you to help identify them?--[[User:Pserratv|Pserratv]] ([[User talk:Pserratv|talk]]) 08:21, 14 January 2022 (EST)
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: Hey Pserratv!  Sorry I'm not fully following.  You're looking for files that are *only* missing Copyright, but don't have any other categories assigned?  [[User:Nicjansma|Nicjansma]] ([[User talk:Nicjansma|talk]]) 14:59, 17 January 2022 (EST)
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::Yes Nick, that it is. I want to see which images are missing a real category as missing copyright is a "commonplace" not a category for me. It is good to know they are missing copyright, but for me it is even more to know which ones are missing a place like being an image of a Free Worlds League character...--[[User:Pserratv|Pserratv]] ([[User talk:Pserratv|talk]]) 05:07, 19 January 2022 (EST)
  
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===Founder Userbar Bestowed===
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==Bug with Module:LuaTest==
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Nic, I hope you don't think this is too ostentatious, but I commissioned [[User:Skuggi|Skuggi]] at cbt.com to create some userbars for us. The idea came to me as I worked on the BTW policies today and I realized you had a position that is equivalent to Jimbo Wales' at Wikipedia. So, I asked him to make a custom one for you. Its the only one with stars on it, and all of the userbars make use of BTW's logo (the IS Map with the name across it). I still have to write up the position articles for most of the positions (advocate, moderator, arbiter, administrator), but I figured those people, when they are assigned, should 'wear' their userbars at the top of their userpages, for quicker identification. The Project team members and lead (for example Project:BattleMechs) will put them where ever on their pages they prefer. I was hoping you'd post your's at the top of your Userpage. Anyway, onto the ceremony..."[drumroll]...I bestow the following unique userbar upon BattleTechWiki's founder, Nic Jansma:
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[[Image:BTW Founder.jpg]]
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[[Module:LuaTest]] shows up as a blue link in [[Special:LonelyPages]], but the page appears to be deleted. Adding it to [[User:Talvin/Project_Orphanage#Technical_Pages]] shows it as a red link, and it does not disappear from the Orphans when that cache refreshes overnight.  This is hardly a showstopper bug or even close, but it's odd. [[User:Talvin|Talvin]] ([[User talk:Talvin|talk]]) 10:57, 27 February 2022 (EST)
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: Strange, I couldn't find any way to make it disappear either.  Must be a side-effect of it being a LUA module. Since it's not affecting anything else (that I can tell) I'll leave it for now, but if there's a pattern of this happening I can dig into it more. Thanks for bringing to my attention! [[User:Nicjansma|Nicjansma]] ([[User talk:Nicjansma|talk]]) 22:26, 22 June 2022 (EDT)
  
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"Congratulations and thanks, Nic."
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== Looks like a Bug. ==
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--[[User:Revanche|Revanche (admin)]] 02:07, 20 November 2006 (CST)
 
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: This is awesome looking!  I've added it now.  Thanks Skuggi and Revanche! {{Unsigned|Nicjansma}}
 
  
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[[:Category:Spanish language products]] is a double redirect, and it looks like it is locked up in the change propagation process since 26 March 2022. It appears to need deletion.--[[User:Talvin|Talvin]] ([[User talk:Talvin|talk]]) 10:15, 14 June 2022 (EDT)
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:I notice that I can't upload them here. Could you please enable them? There are so many decent SVGs from Wikipedia that are under some form 'copyleft' that we could use. --[[User:Xoid|Xoid]] 18:00, 29 November 2006 (CST)
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: Thanks.  I had to set <code>$smwgChangePropagationProtection = false;</code> first, then remove the page.  <code>$smwgChangePropagationProtection</code> is now back to <code>true</code>. [[User:Nicjansma|Nicjansma]] ([[User talk:Nicjansma|talk]]) 22:32, 22 June 2022 (EDT)
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::Sure, is that just a matter of enabling uploads of *.svg?  If so, done! [[User:Nicjansma|Nicjansma]] 21:49, 29 November 2006 (CST)
 
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:::I think that'll be the case. Lets see if the disambig image I wanted to upload works. --[[User:Xoid|Xoid]] 22:12, 29 November 2006 (CST)
 
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::::Nope, seems you're missing something. If you want, I can research it later today. --[[User:Xoid|Xoid]] 22:15, 29 November 2006 (CST)
 
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:::::OK, I think it's fixed now.  I had to change the MIME detection logic. [[User:Nicjansma|Nicjansma]] 23:13, 29 November 2006 (CST)
 
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::::::Excellent. Thank you very much; I'll get to work on uploading what I think will be some commonly used SVGs, as well as some for basic "prettification" of templates. --[[User:Xoid|Xoid]] 03:46, 30 November 2006 (CST)
 
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:::::::Sorry to bother you again, but just something I thought I'd bring up. Wikipedia has their MIME type for SVGs as "image/svg+xml", theirs display correctly. The source of our [[:Image:padlock.svg|first SVG]] also contains that MIME type. --[[User:Xoid|Xoid]] 05:38, 30 November 2006 (CST)
 
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::::::::I've been getting a lot of messages like this one here: <span style="color:red">The file is corrupt or has an incorrect extension. Please check the file and upload again.</span> for PNGs, despite the fact that the images work elsewhere. Could you please look into fixing the MIME types.
 
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::::::::: OK, strange.  I've disabled MIME verification completely ($wgVerifyMimeType=false). The other two verifiers I used (built-in and ''file -bi'' both seemed to not like certain types).  [[User:Nicjansma|Nicjansma]] 23:55, 7 December 2006 (CST)
 
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::::::::::Which leads to [[:Image:Planet.png|that problem]]. This is something I've come to expect from new MediaWiki installations. A right royal pain. --[[User:Xoid|Xoid]] 02:44, 8 December 2006 (CST)
 
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:::::::::::Any suggestions for how to fix? [[User:Nicjansma|Nicjansma]] 02:51, 8 December 2006 (CST)
 
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::::::::::::No idea. Honestly, while I've seen the problems it causes I've never been into the guts of the MIME detection stuff before. I could do some research on it or I could ask the owners the UD and NW wiki how they dealt with it, but I honestly think that'd it be easier to ask at the Wikipedia help desk — it's highly likely that fixing this is going to be something convoluted that we'll need to be walked through and I know they [owners, now Wikipedia's help desk] wouldn't have the time. --[[User:Xoid|Xoid]] 03:10, 8 December 2006 (CST)
 
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:::::::::::::I think I've fixed this by editiing ''/etc/http/conf/magic'' so Apache knows the mime type for PNG.  You'll have to re-upload previously broken PNG uploads to fix.  Are all other image types working? [[User:Nicjansma|Nicjansma]] 17:45, 20 December 2006 (CST)
 
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::::::::::::::SVGs still look screwier than hell. Apparently, Wikipedia doesn't use ImageMagic, but something else entirely. Obstensibly, this was due to the poor quality of the images after it had been through with them. I'm officially giving up on them… they've delayed me long enough. Just gonna stick with the use of PNGs instead. --[[User:Xoid|Xoid]] 05:19, 21 December 2006 (CST)
 
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Could you make a custom namespace called 'Policy'? Make sure any pages that are currently named 'Policy:' are renamed to something else ''before'' you do, or else they might be permanently destroyed. (General mentioned something about that happening when they did that on the Scroll Wars wiki, I'd take his word on it.) --[[User:Xoid|Xoid]] 20:37, 1 December 2006 (CST)
 
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: All set! [[User:Nicjansma|Nicjansma]] 23:59, 7 December 2006 (CST)
 
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::While pages weren't obliterated, seems we have yet another problem. Though this one's 'strange' more than problematic. [http://sarna.net/wiki/index.php?title=Special:Whatlinkshere&target=2Policy%3AAwards Whatlinks here] for 2Policy:Awards. Most curious. Methinks I'll be asking the gurus at meta about this… oddity. --[[User:Xoid|Xoid]] 15:13, 8 December 2006 (CST)
 
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:::Yeah, to solve the move problem I moved all of the Policy: pages to "2Policy:..." first, then moved them to the policy namespace.  So there are probably some weird redirects floating around. [[User:Nicjansma|Nicjansma]] 23:29, 8 December 2006 (CST)
 
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===Not my forte===
 
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*[[Special:Contributions/201.213.4.41|201.213.4.41]] has been modifying some articles on planets. They're no my forte, so I can't tell whether its vandalism. His contributions do look suspicious though. --[[User:Xoid|Xoid]] 13:46, 14 December 2006 (CST)
 
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::Yeah, Nic: I was going to step up and the changes, but I'm not certain I'd be judging fairly (looking at some of the entries he made). --[[User:Revanche|Revanche (admin)]] 11:14, 17 December 2006 (CST)
 
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:::I rolled back one of the edits that removed all of the Nearby links.  For the other planets, I think he is technically correct, so I've left them.  Thanks for the heads up. [[User:Nicjansma|Nicjansma]] 15:08, 17 December 2006 (CST)
 
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:That'd be great to see what you have.  We currently have [[Clan Bloodnames]] but I don't know if it's accurate or complete. [[User:71.205.214.60|71.205.214.60]] 11:39, 24 December 2006 (CST)
 

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Rebecca "Spreadsheet" Taylor[edit]

Excuse me Nic, never done this before, but how do I get Rebecca "Spreadsheet" Taylor added to the Canon character's page? She's my late fiance and in Rec guide 12 Livewire2112 (talk) 21:14, 12 May 2021 (EDT)

Hello, Livewire. I am reasonably sure that if the character is canon (I don't have #12 yet), they will be added in some fashion. However, if you want to prime the pump a bit, and are not familiar with wikis, I'd recommend opening a similar character (maybe from an earlier Guide) and starting an article named Rebecca Taylor, copying all the stuff (text & code) over into the new article, changing everything that doesn't pertain and adding what is needed. Some other Editor will be sure to follow behind and correct any mistakes or add needed info. Good luck, and I'll be looking for the article (and the Guide).--Revanche (talk|contribs) 21:21, 12 May 2021 (EDT)
Update: The process has started, Livewire, thanks to Dmon.--Revanche (talk|contribs) 22:07, 12 May 2021 (EDT)

Potential issue in File:Götterdämmerung (system) 3151.svg[edit]

Hi Nik,

While reviwing images without category, I found out this one File:Götterdämmerung (system) 3151.svg, which had no category nor information unlike the rest. I remember you have the "macro" that creates them and prepares them and adds a category because I asked this to help clean the "Uncategorized Files" page. No idea why this one got nuts. I added the information. Maybe it is because of the nice german spelling, but it is not the only planet like this. Hope you can review and thanks in advance!--Pserratv (talk) 08:23, 5 November 2021 (EDT)

Perfect thanks! I had to hand-upload that file, because the umlaut caused issues with the initial batch. I think the rest were OK. Appreciate you added the category! Nicjansma (talk) 21:07, 8 November 2021 (EST)
No problem. Thanks to you for the macro and all other things you do for this page!--Pserratv (talk) 11:04, 9 November 2021 (EST)

Help with Uncategorized files[edit]

Hi Nik, I've seen that the file with only have this category: Category:Missing copyright information do not appear as Uncategorized... unfortunately, there are a lot of files with miss this but also other information and it is quite complex to find which ones only have the missing copyright... as those ones are missing some category else... Is there any way for you to help identify them?--Pserratv (talk) 08:21, 14 January 2022 (EST)

Hey Pserratv! Sorry I'm not fully following. You're looking for files that are *only* missing Copyright, but don't have any other categories assigned? Nicjansma (talk) 14:59, 17 January 2022 (EST)
Yes Nick, that it is. I want to see which images are missing a real category as missing copyright is a "commonplace" not a category for me. It is good to know they are missing copyright, but for me it is even more to know which ones are missing a place like being an image of a Free Worlds League character...--Pserratv (talk) 05:07, 19 January 2022 (EST)

Bug with Module:LuaTest[edit]

Hi Nic,
Module:LuaTest shows up as a blue link in Special:LonelyPages, but the page appears to be deleted. Adding it to User:Talvin/Project_Orphanage#Technical_Pages shows it as a red link, and it does not disappear from the Orphans when that cache refreshes overnight. This is hardly a showstopper bug or even close, but it's odd. Talvin (talk) 10:57, 27 February 2022 (EST)

Strange, I couldn't find any way to make it disappear either. Must be a side-effect of it being a LUA module. Since it's not affecting anything else (that I can tell) I'll leave it for now, but if there's a pattern of this happening I can dig into it more. Thanks for bringing to my attention! Nicjansma (talk) 22:26, 22 June 2022 (EDT)

Looks like a Bug.[edit]

Category:Spanish language products is a double redirect, and it looks like it is locked up in the change propagation process since 26 March 2022. It appears to need deletion.--Talvin (talk) 10:15, 14 June 2022 (EDT)

Thanks. I had to set $smwgChangePropagationProtection = false; first, then remove the page. $smwgChangePropagationProtection is now back to true. Nicjansma (talk) 22:32, 22 June 2022 (EDT)

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