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Dropship / Small Craft Templates

Hi Rev, Happy New Year to you. I've been doing some Small Craft and DropShip articles as of late. I've noticed that the info boxes are lacking listing for Safe Thrust & Maximum Thurst. Is possible for you to added them to the info box? I've tried do it manually, but they don't appear when i enter them. -- Wrangler 16:18, 7 January 2010 (UTC)

Sure. I can't do them /right/ now, but I should have made some attempt (maybe even succeed) by the end of the workday. --Revanche ^{(talk|contribs)} 16:48, 7 January 2010 (UTC)

Not rush, I'm not some task master or something! heh. I was going suggest to add slot for fuel too. Sorry keep imposing. I'm justing finding alot missing things in the template. I've changed the articles I've been doing's Armaments to Armaments & Capacities since there alot stuff cover that description doesn't cover or too much. -- Wrangler 17:01, 7 January 2010 (UTC)

I just added those fields to the dropship template. Unfortunately, I do not have the current information on those values as all I have is TRO 3057. It shouldn't be to much trouble to add them though. --Peregry 19:50, 7 January 2010 (UTC)

Thanks Peregry, Anything is better than nothing. I'm been just frustrated lacking ability to fix problems with existing templates. -- Wrangler 22:40, 7 January 2010 (UTC)

One hint, Wrangler, is to mimic what already exists. For example, I had a HUGE learning curve when trying to figure out how to adopt infoboxes (from WP) onto this site. But, since then, I've forgotten a lot of what I've learned. When I do have to do it again, I get into the guts of the template I want to change and find some code close to where I put to put the adaption, find where the code repeats and then copy the kit-&-kaboodle. Test around with it, until it does what you want it to do, look at the history of other Editors to see what they did. Trust me, with your lengthy history here, you get some massive leeway if you screw up a template...plus you know how to put it back to what it was before you tested on it. Be bold!--Revanche ^{(talk|contribs)} 22:47, 7 January 2010 (UTC)

Leviathan Question

Hi Rev I wanted to ask you as i'm writing up the Leviathan Warship article. I have dilimea, i want to keep Transport and Heavy Battleship information seperate from one another. This is due to Transport and Battleship specs are rattly differient from one another. The Transports are all being converted in to the Battleship design. Should i just keep them into one article, or seperate them. I normally want keep together, but the Transport hasn't done alot beside move folks across space, Leviathan II battleship is making history in Jihad as thing move along. At the moment, the article is one piece, however I believe and think it deserves seperate article. What should i do? -- Wrangler 22:44, 7 January 2010 (UTC)

Armchair answer: discuss as two separate variants on the same article and then include both cats at the bottom. To me, Leviathans are Leviathans...the ship is the same model, but different variant (and missions). However, I do recommend you bring the question up at BattleTechWiki:RequestForComment, so you get more than my opinion on the matter.--Revanche ^{(talk|contribs)} 22:50, 7 January 2010 (UTC)

Cost for BattleMechs and Combat Vehicles

Hi Rev, is it possible to add a cost section to both BattleMech & Combat Vehicle templates? (Djuice 17:46, 8 January 2010 (UTC))

Absolutely. If you want me to do it, let me know, and I'll get to it shortly. --Revanche ^{(talk|contribs)} 17:51, 8 January 2010 (UTC)

If you could then it's much appreciated. Djuice 18:03, 8 January 2010 (UTC)

Roger. Let me finish up what I'm working on, and then I'll get to it. --Revanche ^{(talk|contribs)} 18:04, 8 January 2010 (UTC)

Okay, Djuice: try the BattleMech one out. I've got it as collapsable, meaning it won't show unless a value is there. Let me know how it works.--Revanche ^{(talk|contribs)} 18:48, 8 January 2010 (UTC)

Okay, I'll give it a try. Thanks, edit: Okay there seems to be a problem, when adding in the cost, it moves the technical specifications bar into a funky position making it look kinda weird. Djuice 18:57, 8 January 2010 (UTC)

Go ahead and re-create the problem with a 'Mech article. I'll investigate that one. --Revanche ^{(talk|contribs)} 19:19, 8 January 2010 (UTC)

Hi there, here how it looks. http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Akuma <-- weird funkiness thingy with the tabs. Also for the Combat Vehicles the cost tabs doesn't even show up. Djuice 19:23, 8 January 2010 (UTC)

I was quick to find my mistake for the 'Mech infobox. Go ahead and set up a Vee one for me, pls. --Revanche ^{(talk|contribs)} 19:26, 8 January 2010 (UTC)

Thanks, they are all working fine now. http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Zorya <-- See you handy work :p Now I can get to adding some cost for those vehicles/Mechs :D Djuice 19:29, 8 January 2010 (UTC)

Excellent. Glad it worked out. Good luck with your endeavor! (As an aside, wikilinks (i.e. Zorya) work on talk pages too, so you don't havw to copy urls over.) --Revanche ^{(talk|contribs)} 19:36, 8 January 2010 (UTC)

Fuel + Tons/Burn-day For Dropships & Warships

Hi, it's me again :p If you have any free time could you add those two additional boxes to both Dropship & Warship templates :p Take as long as you need, it's not urgent. Thanks Djuice 22:59, 9 January 2010 (UTC)

Do Small Craft and ASFs need this too? --Revanche ^{(talk|contribs)} 23:33, 9 January 2010 (UTC)

Not both, just the fuel.. Djuice 23:40, 9 January 2010 (UTC)

Try a DropShip now. Let me see how it goes. --Revanche ^{(talk|contribs)} 00:00, 10 January 2010 (UTC)

Thanks, it worked. Achilles <- example. Djuice 00:10, 10 January 2010 (UTC)

I'll try start filling in all other articles with dropships and small craft. They all have been altered now with new template change. -- Wrangler 01:14, 10 January 2010 (UTC)

Hmmmph. I didn't expect it to work at first.--Revanche ^{(talk|contribs)} 02:37, 10 January 2010 (UTC)

Bad news, Template is wrong due to confusion. I take full responiblity for this mistake for accuring. This what the writer wrote back since i'm not bright enough to clearly write it correctly.

“	No, it does not. It burns 1.84 tons per day. That means 15 tons of fuel lasts 8.15 days.	”
	— quote

This need to be changed on all effected template. Sorry for this big error. I tried to fix the template manually, but I was unable to do so. Can the template be changed to Burn Rate/Per Days-- Wrangler 02:00, 11 January 2010 (UTC)

Okay, I changed it to 'Burn Rate.' Will that work? (Not too current on BattleSpace stuff, even though I was a playtester for Heavy Metal Aero.)--Revanche ^{(talk|contribs)} 02:13, 11 January 2010 (UTC)

The Small Craft template still needs to be fixed. Its still missing the Burn Rate. The Tigress article one doesn't have the issue since I originally used the Dropship template for it when i was unable find smallcraft template (don't ask). In response in regards to the changes Battlespace vs current SO rules. The changes are not as visable in the stats we are been putting up in the article per say. Its more rules based things regarding the ships types and game play itself. I can't remember off hand right now what they are. My problem which started whole mess was that i kept miss-reading some things in stats. However, its still little confusing to me how they listed this particular stat for the ships. Example: The Tigress article, where this mess got started from. The Tigress is a small craft which lists 15 tons of fuel in Major Periphery States sourcebook. The Burn Rate is 8.15 days. Meaning the burn rate was done in days, not by ton way i've been mis-reading it. The Aquarius and Lyonesse articles are older than Tigress (despite being printed in TRO:3075.) They forgot to print the burn rate for those ships. The reason why i got confused besides mis-reading Tigress article in the source book was that the Burn Rate name didn't what you use to list how many days of fuel you have. I would thought they would have printed a stat like that as Maximum Fuel Range (Days) = 8.15. I kept miss the conection that rate was MAX Days of fuel verses how much fuel is burned. -- Wrangler 02:50, 11 January 2010 (UTC)

Okay, try that. Let me know if it doesn't work. Off to bed, tho, I think. G'night. --Revanche ^{(talk|contribs)} 03:05, 11 January 2010 (UTC)

So the new burn rate figure should be calculated as (Fuel/Burn per day) = No. of days ? Djuice 17:18, 11 January 2010 (UTC)

[hands up] Sorry; don't really know. I was just making the changes to the template, as requested. I didn't and don't have time to figure it out myself, but was just relying on what Wrangler and you requested of me. Please let me know if I need to change anything. --Revanche ^{(talk|contribs)} 17:45, 11 January 2010 (UTC)

Question

Hy Revanche I think you see my last addings about Manufacturing Centers...I hope my edditing on this is ok...i fixing in next time...I hope it was a expansion on the wiki site. 03:44, 10 January 2010 (UTC) Doneve 03:45, 10 January 2010 (UTC)

I absolutely think linking manufacturing centers to planets (and vice versa) is helpful. Good job. --Revanche ^{(talk|contribs)} 03:49, 10 January 2010 (UTC)

Removed Pages

Hy Revanche i see you removed some references on the Abysmal Manufacturing Complex page why? I am not finished with the page. --Doneve 18:10, 14 January 2010 (UTC)

Apologies. Please feel free to revert my edits. As part of my spot copyediting, I checked the referenced pages and didn't see anything on those pages regarding Abysmal, and, wanting to keep the integrity of BTW high, I removed them. It sounds like, though, since you are still working on that page, you were just using the entries as templates? Also, if you are going to be working on a page for some length of time, you might find using the {{inuse}} or {{Underconstruction}} tags to be helpful, to protect it from other Editors (but you don't have to). Sorry to disrupt, and feel free to revert my works. --Revanche ^{(talk|contribs)} 18:44, 14 January 2010 (UTC)

No problem Revanche. You give me the answer. THX--Doneve 18:58, 14 January 2010 (UTC)

McKinnon's Company?

Hi Rev, i noticed you made a re-direct for future article named McKinnon's Company. Are you talking about McKinnon's Raiders? -- Wrangler 02:35, 15 January 2010 (UTC)

Negs. Take a look at the last entry on Cyc's talk page. It was me clearing up any other similar issues with that rarer form of apostrophe. --Revanche ^{(talk|contribs)} 02:50, 15 January 2010 (UTC)

Uploading imagine problem

Hi Rev. Something screwing going on with the uploading. I made Jpg file for the Storm Raider BattleMech for a place holder article. I took the imagine from PDF, into a paint file and made it into jpg file. Which turn out fine. However, when i went to upload the picture, the imagine does not appear. I'm not certain what heck I'm doing wrong. I been doing this method three times. Have I rain into a quota problem or something? The file is File:MWDA Storm Raider.jpg. Help? -- Wrangler 22:14, 17 January 2010 (UTC)

Wrangler, I see all three images you uploaded. --Revanche ^{(talk|contribs)} 22:35, 17 January 2010 (UTC)

I can see them too, I would suspect that you have a browser/cache problem. Try closing down the browser and reloading, that usually fixes it. Djuice 22:43, 17 January 2010 (UTC)