Talk:Special Pilot Abilities

Deletion proposal

I have put a delete tag on this because right out the gate it has a HUGE rules section. I am of the opinion that rules are impossible to "rephrase". As a result any article dedicated to rules is going to be almost entierly plagiarism. At some point in the near future I plan to put a motion to the rest of the community to have the wiki go "rules free".--Dmon (talk) 07:49, 20 January 2022 (EST)

Got your point, and it is true it a huge list of rules which might impact the intent of the wiki. Then we do just put the pilots right?--Pserratv (talk) 07:50, 20 January 2022 (EST)

Yeah, lore stuff is 100% fair game as it can be rephrased, rules, if you rephrase you could be changing the rule, so in order to be clear, you are forced to copy the exact wording.. And that is a problem.--Dmon (talk) 07:53, 20 January 2022 (EST)

Then maybe we should just list the names of abilities and cost?--Pserratv (talk) 08:07, 20 January 2022 (EST)

Rules can be summarized without plagiarism. E.g. Blood Stalker: Decreases To-Hit Modifier against single enemy while increasing it against all others, until that enemy is removed from play. (Citation here)--Cache (talk) 08:12, 20 January 2022 (EST)

So names & descriptions but not exact rules you mean like modifiers and so on?--Pserratv (talk) 09:19, 20 January 2022 (EST). Let me amend the first two or three and you tell me--Pserratv (talk) 09:19, 20 January 2022 (EST)

That looks good to me. I would definitely like to see a reference on each to show people where to find the full information. --Cache (talk) 10:59, 20 January 2022 (EST)

That can be done. I'll take some time to do it.--Pserratv (talk) 11:18, 20 January 2022 (EST)

Dmon, I think we can take out the Deletion message. I'll keep descriptions as they are, no rules nor costs and I'll link the skills to the cards where they are explainedç, though most probably not today.--Pserratv (talk) 04:27, 21 January 2022 (EST)

Dmon is right to a degree, but I'm not completely on the same page. While we cannot reproduce rules here, we should still seek to have articles mentioning rules concepts like SPAs - at least give a description what this is and what rulebooks it is found in, perhaps a rundown list of SPAs that have been given, without going into rules detail. NB to a degree the game rules are already available as free download anyways, but that's probably the part of the rules that is so basic that we don't really need an article about it. Frabby (talk) 06:51, 21 January 2022 (EST)

As this is a part of a larger copyright discussion (I believe), I am asking that the "Game Rules" conversation be moved here: Policy_Talk:Copyrights#Game_Rules_Sections--Cache (talk) 10:56, 12 February 2022 (EST)