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== Sarna.net Design Refresh ==
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==Rebecca "Spreadsheet" Taylor==
'''August 8, 2013''': The new skin is live for the wiki and news sections.  Please continue to let me know if you have any feedback. [[User:Nicjansma|Nicjansma]] ([[User talk:Nicjansma|talk]]) 20:22, 10 August 2013 (PDT)
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Excuse me Nic, never done this before, but how do I get Rebecca "Spreadsheet" Taylor added to the Canon character's page?  She's my late fiance and in Rec guide 12 [[User:Livewire2112|Livewire2112]] ([[User talk:Livewire2112|talk]]) 21:14, 12 May 2021 (EDT)
  
Here's what I've done so far:
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: Hello, Livewire. I am reasonably sure that if the character is canon (I don't have #12 yet), they will be added in some fashion. However, if you want to prime the pump a bit, and are not familiar with wikis, I'd recommend opening a similar character (maybe from an earlier ''Guide'') and starting an article named [[Rebecca Taylor]], copying all the stuff (text & code) over into the new article, changing everything that doesn't pertain and adding what is needed. Some other Editor will be sure to follow behind and correct any mistakes or add needed info. Good luck, and I'll be looking for the article (and the ''Guide'').--[[User:Revanche|Revanche]] <sup>([[User_talk:Revanche|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Revanche|contribs]])</sup> 21:21, 12 May 2021 (EDT)
* General
 
** Changed the global font (from Verdana to Open Sans), including the font size (to be larger than before)
 
** Changed the background color
 
** Many small visual updates and tweaks
 
** Update the Sarna logo
 
* Top navigation bar:
 
** Larger and easier to navigate with
 
** Includes Facebook and Twitter icons
 
** Responsive on mobile devices
 
* Wiki:
 
** Left navigation links have been cleaned up a bit
 
** Several parts of the wiki are more responsive on mobile devices
 
** Many misc visual style updates and fixes
 
** Faction skins work as before
 
  
To Do:
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: Update: [https://www.sarna.net/wiki/index.php?title=List_of_Clan_Invasion_Kickstarter_Characters&diff=prev&oldid=676150 The process has started], Livewire, thanks to [[User:Dmon|Dmon]].--[[User:Revanche|Revanche]] <sup>([[User_talk:Revanche|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Revanche|contribs]])</sup> 22:07, 12 May 2021 (EDT)
* Update the Downloads section
 
* Update the Forums
 
  
=== Sarna.net Design Refresh Comments ===
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== Potential issue in File:Götterdämmerung (system) 3151.svg ==
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*I care for content more than for fancy presentation. The change is a slight improvement in my book, nothing substantial in my eyes but there's certainly nothing wrong with it.<br />Given that Sarna is mostly perceived as the BT wiki these days, it's a bit odd that wiki isn't the first item in the navigation bar - and the "Sarna.net >>" link goes straigth to the wiki and not to some top level directory. My suggested order of items would therefore be wiki, news, forum, downloads and it goes without saying that the downloads section needs a massive cleanup. You might want to ask Catalyst if they'd allow you to host certain files that used to be free downloads from previous iterations of the official BT page: the House Books, ''[[Lawyers, Guns, & Money]]'', also important fan work such as ''[[Objective Raids: 3067]]'', etc.<br />Finally, I note that the ad sections are back even for registered user accounts. They are a bit annoying once you get used to working on a screen without ad bars... [[User:Frabby|Frabby]] ([[User talk:Frabby|talk]]) 14:51, 5 August 2013 (PDT)
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Hi Nik,
::Thanks for your feedback Frabby.  There will be a new landing page for the "Sarna.net >> link".  While Sarna is currently known for the wiki, the News section is new and I want to promote it.  I will be updating the downloads section a bit after the design refresh.  And not to worry, the ads will be hidden when the updated look goes live if you're using the NoAds skin. [[User:Nicjansma|Nicjansma]] ([[User talk:Nicjansma|talk]]) 15:05, 5 August 2013 (PDT)
 
  
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While reviwing images without category, I found out this one File:Götterdämmerung (system) 3151.svg, which had no category nor information unlike the rest. I remember you have the "macro" that creates them and prepares them and adds a category because I asked this to help clean the [https://www.sarna.net/wiki/Special:UncategorizedFiles "Uncategorized Files"] page. No idea why this one got nuts. I added the information. Maybe it is because of the nice german spelling, but it is not the only planet like this. Hope you can review and thanks in advance!--[[User:Pserratv|Pserratv]] ([[User talk:Pserratv|talk]]) 08:23, 5 November 2021 (EDT)
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: Perfect thanks!  I had to hand-upload that file, because the umlaut caused issues with the initial batch.  I think the rest were OK.  Appreciate you added the category! [[User:Nicjansma|Nicjansma]] ([[User talk:Nicjansma|talk]]) 21:07, 8 November 2021 (EST)
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:: No problem. Thanks to you for the macro and all other things you do for this page!--[[User:Pserratv|Pserratv]] ([[User talk:Pserratv|talk]]) 11:04, 9 November 2021 (EST)
  
* I've tired using the new layout here and at work, and it looks a bit odd at times. In some pages it's fine, but when I look at the front page and article pages, about a quarter of the screen on the right is white space. That may be a setting that I've missed somewhere in my preferences.
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== Help with Uncategorized files ==
* When I use the history section of an article to review changes that've been made, I'm getting the same problem, except that the text isn't formatting correctly - it's being truncated on the right hnd side. [[User:BrokenMnemonic|BrokenMnemonic]] ([[User talk:BrokenMnemonic|talk]]) 09:08, 6 August 2013 (PDT)
 
::What browser are you using?  Any chance you can email me a screen shot?  nic at nicj dot net. [[User:Nicjansma|Nicjansma]] ([[User talk:Nicjansma|talk]]) 10:11, 6 August 2013 (PDT)
 
:::I've sent an email with a couple of screenshots in - I'm using Firefox build 22.0. [[User:BrokenMnemonic|BrokenMnemonic]] ([[User talk:BrokenMnemonic|talk]]) 10:48, 6 August 2013 (PDT)
 
::::Wonderful, that helped a ton.  I believe I've fixed this issue -- let me know if not. [[User:Nicjansma|Nicjansma]] ([[User talk:Nicjansma|talk]]) 08:00, 7 August 2013 (PDT)
 
  
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Hi Nik, I've seen that the file with only have this category: [[:Category:Missing copyright information]] do not appear as Uncategorized... unfortunately, there are a lot of files with miss this but also other information and it is quite complex to find which ones only have the missing copyright... as those ones are missing some category else... Is there any way for you to help identify them?--[[User:Pserratv|Pserratv]] ([[User talk:Pserratv|talk]]) 08:21, 14 January 2022 (EST)
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: Hey Pserratv!  Sorry I'm not fully following.  You're looking for files that are *only* missing Copyright, but don't have any other categories assigned?  [[User:Nicjansma|Nicjansma]] ([[User talk:Nicjansma|talk]]) 14:59, 17 January 2022 (EST)
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::Yes Nick, that it is. I want to see which images are missing a real category as missing copyright is a "commonplace" not a category for me. It is good to know they are missing copyright, but for me it is even more to know which ones are missing a place like being an image of a Free Worlds League character...--[[User:Pserratv|Pserratv]] ([[User talk:Pserratv|talk]]) 05:07, 19 January 2022 (EST)
  
*Personally I don't like the new layout much; plus, in Firefox (which is all that I use) the font is messed up and looks constantly bolded and is much too large. Therefore, if you do change it for everyone, I suggest that you leave an old version for us editors to use if we want. That is my two cents. -[[User:BobTheZombie|BobTheZombie]] ([[User talk:BobTheZombie|talk]]) 10:55, 6 August 2013 (PDT)
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==Bug with Module:LuaTest==
::Can you say what you don't like about it specifically?  What OS / browser are you using?  The font looks fine for me on the latest Firefox, IE and Chrome on Windows 7... a screenshot showing the problem would be wonderful!  [[User:Nicjansma|Nicjansma]] ([[User talk:Nicjansma|talk]]) 16:19, 6 August 2013 (PDT)
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Hi Nic,<br>
:::The screenshot was very helpfulI believe I've fixed this issue as well, let me know if not. [[User:Nicjansma|Nicjansma]] ([[User talk:Nicjansma|talk]]) 08:00, 7 August 2013 (PDT)
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[[Module:LuaTest]] shows up as a blue link in [[Special:LonelyPages]], but the page appears to be deleted. Adding it to [[User:Talvin/Project_Orphanage#Technical_Pages]] shows it as a red link, and it does not disappear from the Orphans when that cache refreshes overnightThis is hardly a showstopper bug or even close, but it's odd. [[User:Talvin|Talvin]] ([[User talk:Talvin|talk]]) 10:57, 27 February 2022 (EST)
:::Note, for those of you seeing the font all-bold, check out [http://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/946005 this fix for FireFox], which helped [[User:BobTheZombie|BobTheZombie]] [[User:Nicjansma|Nicjansma]] ([[User talk:Nicjansma|talk]]) 06:39, 11 August 2013 (PDT)
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: Strange, I couldn't find any way to make it disappear either.  Must be a side-effect of it being a LUA module.  Since it's not affecting anything else (that I can tell) I'll leave it for now, but if there's a pattern of this happening I can dig into it more. Thanks for bringing to my attention! [[User:Nicjansma|Nicjansma]] ([[User talk:Nicjansma|talk]]) 22:26, 22 June 2022 (EDT)
  
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== Looks like a Bug. ==
  
*I tested the new layout and i have no problems what BM talk from, but i don't use it, i use the marik skin with CSS preferences.--[[User:Doneve|Doneve]] ([[User talk:Doneve|talk]]) 12:25, 6 August 2013 (PDT)
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[[:Category:Spanish language products]] is a double redirect, and it looks like it is locked up in the change propagation process since 26 March 2022It appears to need deletion.--[[User:Talvin|Talvin]] ([[User talk:Talvin|talk]]) 10:15, 14 June 2022 (EDT)
::The house-skins will change to look like the new layout, but the color overrides will be similar. [[User:Nicjansma|Nicjansma]] ([[User talk:Nicjansma|talk]]) 16:19, 6 August 2013 (PDT)
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: Thanks.  I had to set <code>$smwgChangePropagationProtection = false;</code> first, then remove the page.  <code>$smwgChangePropagationProtection</code> is now back to <code>true</code>. [[User:Nicjansma|Nicjansma]] ([[User talk:Nicjansma|talk]]) 22:32, 22 June 2022 (EDT)
:::The house skins should be updated with the new look. [[User:Nicjansma|Nicjansma]] ([[User talk:Nicjansma|talk]]) 20:22, 10 August 2013 (PDT)
 
 
 
 
 
*Hy Nic i appreciate your sarna refresh, but can you change the font size and the font Open Sans to another for the various house skins, it looks not so good for me and i think you become more messages about this, i don't like it, but this is my opinion, you want feedback you become feedback, and i notice some a broken table, please take a look on the [[Port Arthur]] page, the table on the left side is not closed and on other tables the same problem.--[[User:Doneve|Doneve]] ([[User talk:Doneve|talk]]) 18:36, 10 August 2013 (PDT)
 
::Hi Doneve.  The new font and font sizes were conscious decisions to make the page easier to read for everyone in general.  I'm sure everyone has their own preferences for fonts and font sizes, so I can't provide a custom skin for everyone's preference.  I'm not currently seeing a problem with the table on the [[Port Arthur]] pageI was in the middle of making several changes while you were online, can you reload to see if the problem goes away?  If not, please email me a screenshot showing me what you're seeing. [[User:Nicjansma|Nicjansma]] ([[User talk:Nicjansma|talk]]) 20:22, 10 August 2013 (PDT)
 
:::Thanks for response, the table problem is gone, and i must life with the new layout, no doubt, iam here :).--[[User:Doneve|Doneve]] ([[User talk:Doneve|talk]]) 20:42, 10 August 2013 (PDT)
 
::::Good to hear!  One option that you could do, if you want to see a smaller font, is to use the Firefox [https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/greasemonkey/ Greasemonkey] addon, which lets you insert your own personal CSS in any domain you visit. Thanks for your feedback! [[User:Nicjansma|Nicjansma]] ([[User talk:Nicjansma|talk]]) 20:46, 10 August 2013 (PDT)
 
:::::Thanks Nic for the addon help, it works :), oh and i like the new design more and more.--[[User:Doneve|Doneve]] ([[User talk:Doneve|talk]]) 09:53, 11 August 2013 (PDT)
 
 
 
 
 
*So far, am I loving it. :) More to come... [[User:ClanWolverine101|ClanWolverine101]] ([[User talk:ClanWolverine101|talk]]) 21:55, 10 August 2013 (PDT)
 
 
 
 
 
*Is there way for me to be able to login and have change the skin back to the old one? No offense, but i'm using a older computer and its kinda pain on it. -- [[User:Wrangler|Wrangler]] ([[User talk:Wrangler|talk]]) 05:29, 11 August 2013 (PDT)
 
::Are there specific things that you don't like about the new look?  Can you send me a screenshot, and which OS/browser you're using to show the things that don't work? I'd rather fix the issue for everyone than have to maintain the older skin. [[User:Nicjansma|Nicjansma]] ([[User talk:Nicjansma|talk]]) 06:39, 11 August 2013 (PDT)
 
:::Its mainly I'm XP user, i'm not planning replace it anytime soon. I've found that this type of interface is rather..challenging memorywise to the older ad-free skin. I'm not against swanky looks, its function for me.  Wikipedia next-generation skin is similarly do the same thing to me. -- [[User:Wrangler|Wrangler]] ([[User talk:Wrangler|talk]]) 08:53, 11 August 2013 (PDT)
 
 
 
 
 
*Hi Nic, i noticed something. With way this new adsense type skin works. Any files that i have an option of watching, aren't being being highlighted/shown in bold. -- [[User:Wrangler|Wrangler]] ([[User talk:Wrangler|talk]]) 05:40, 11 August 2013 (PDT)
 
::I believe I've fixed this. Note, you don't have to use the SarnaAdSense skin, you can use just the plain Sarna skin (which doesn't have ads) or any of the house skins (all of which don't have ads) [[User:Nicjansma|Nicjansma]] ([[User talk:Nicjansma|talk]]) 06:39, 11 August 2013 (PDT)
 
::::I'll try, try switching to the other Sarna skin.  This the original isn't it? -- [[User:Wrangler|Wrangler]] ([[User talk:Wrangler|talk]]) 08:54, 11 August 2013 (PDT)
 
::::::I've tried both, I guess its newer interface you switch too. You have to do what you have to do. I'll have try keep going till my browers can't handle it anymore.  I've used Chrome too and frankly i don't like it either. I know this is done of Touchscreen interfaces, but it makes it hell on wheels for me.  Sorry to trouble you, Nic. -- [[User:Wrangler|Wrangler]] ([[User talk:Wrangler|talk]]) 08:59, 11 August 2013 (PDT)
 
 
 
 
 
*Hello Nic, overall I like the new scheme, it seems cleaner and a bit more professional. The only issue I have noticed so far is that the BattleMech Portal section isn't framed correctly and the page cuts off the sides causing a horizontal slider bar to be generated. Previously I have visited this page and this was not the case under the old look (I am using a widescreen monitor, so width and aspect ratio of my equipment is not to blame here). Otherwise, I like what you have done. -- [[User:MadMechanic|MadMechanic]]
 
::Thanks MadMechanic, I've updated the [[BattleTechWiki:BattleMech Portal|BattleMech Portal]] a bit to be more responsive with the new design.
 
 
 
 
 
* Hi just thought I'd chime in too. Personally, I really like the new look of the wiki. Been using Sarna for little over a year I think. The old one was fine too, but as said before, this one looks more professional. For some reason it reminds me of the NGNG and MechSpecs sites. No idea if that's intended or not. Anyway, my only gripes with the new site are that articles don't fill the page width. This seems to be corrected when you make the window smaller (Nice touch btw, if intentional) My only other dislike is that the global font is quite large. Other than that, really love the new refreshed look. Keep it up! -- [[User:Mordynak|Mordynak]] ([[User talk:Mordynak|talk]]) 06:11, 13 August 2013 (PDT)
 
::Hi Mordynak, thanks for the input! We're using the same font (Open Sans) that NGNG is, and the overall design is "flatter", which is the direction web design is going lately.  The articles should fill the whole width!  What browser and OS are you using?  Can you send me a screenshot of what you see?  Yes, I spent quite a bit of time making smaller-screens work better -- the whole interface should 'collapse' a bit as you shrink the browser width.  This is to make it work better on tablets and phones.  I put a lot of time into making that work, I hope it's useful for people browsing on phones. Appreciate the feedback! [[User:Nicjansma|Nicjansma]] ([[User talk:Nicjansma|talk]]) 06:28, 13 August 2013 (PDT)
 
::: Hi again, was literally just taking a screenshot or two for you to see. Using Win7 and Firefox, latest version. http://i.imgur.com/3mZ06eV.jpg?1  and a second image a little wider. http://i.imgur.com/BJLgKA2.png?1 imgur chose the formats btw.... As you can see, the actual content resizes, but the blank space doesn't. This only seems to affect articles and not editing pages such as this one. Hope this helps! -- [[User:Mordynak|Mordynak]] ([[User talk:Mordynak|talk]]) 07:58, 13 August 2013 (PDT)
 
::::Hy Mordynak, have you tested this with the various house skins in your preferences, i have no problems, i use Win8 and Firefox, but i use in my marik house skin CSS prefs.--[[User:Doneve|Doneve]] ([[User talk:Doneve|talk]]) 08:17, 13 August 2013 (PDT)
 
:::::Ahh I see, cheers Doneve. I wasn't aware there were different skins. That said however, the problem still exists in the default skin. All other skins appear to be unaffected. -- [[User:Mordynak|Mordynak]] ([[User talk:Mordynak|talk]]) 08:26, 13 August 2013 (PDT)
 

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Rebecca "Spreadsheet" Taylor[edit]

Excuse me Nic, never done this before, but how do I get Rebecca "Spreadsheet" Taylor added to the Canon character's page? She's my late fiance and in Rec guide 12 Livewire2112 (talk) 21:14, 12 May 2021 (EDT)

Hello, Livewire. I am reasonably sure that if the character is canon (I don't have #12 yet), they will be added in some fashion. However, if you want to prime the pump a bit, and are not familiar with wikis, I'd recommend opening a similar character (maybe from an earlier Guide) and starting an article named Rebecca Taylor, copying all the stuff (text & code) over into the new article, changing everything that doesn't pertain and adding what is needed. Some other Editor will be sure to follow behind and correct any mistakes or add needed info. Good luck, and I'll be looking for the article (and the Guide).--Revanche (talk|contribs) 21:21, 12 May 2021 (EDT)
Update: The process has started, Livewire, thanks to Dmon.--Revanche (talk|contribs) 22:07, 12 May 2021 (EDT)

Potential issue in File:Götterdämmerung (system) 3151.svg[edit]

Hi Nik,

While reviwing images without category, I found out this one File:Götterdämmerung (system) 3151.svg, which had no category nor information unlike the rest. I remember you have the "macro" that creates them and prepares them and adds a category because I asked this to help clean the "Uncategorized Files" page. No idea why this one got nuts. I added the information. Maybe it is because of the nice german spelling, but it is not the only planet like this. Hope you can review and thanks in advance!--Pserratv (talk) 08:23, 5 November 2021 (EDT)

Perfect thanks! I had to hand-upload that file, because the umlaut caused issues with the initial batch. I think the rest were OK. Appreciate you added the category! Nicjansma (talk) 21:07, 8 November 2021 (EST)
No problem. Thanks to you for the macro and all other things you do for this page!--Pserratv (talk) 11:04, 9 November 2021 (EST)

Help with Uncategorized files[edit]

Hi Nik, I've seen that the file with only have this category: Category:Missing copyright information do not appear as Uncategorized... unfortunately, there are a lot of files with miss this but also other information and it is quite complex to find which ones only have the missing copyright... as those ones are missing some category else... Is there any way for you to help identify them?--Pserratv (talk) 08:21, 14 January 2022 (EST)

Hey Pserratv! Sorry I'm not fully following. You're looking for files that are *only* missing Copyright, but don't have any other categories assigned? Nicjansma (talk) 14:59, 17 January 2022 (EST)
Yes Nick, that it is. I want to see which images are missing a real category as missing copyright is a "commonplace" not a category for me. It is good to know they are missing copyright, but for me it is even more to know which ones are missing a place like being an image of a Free Worlds League character...--Pserratv (talk) 05:07, 19 January 2022 (EST)

Bug with Module:LuaTest[edit]

Hi Nic,
Module:LuaTest shows up as a blue link in Special:LonelyPages, but the page appears to be deleted. Adding it to User:Talvin/Project_Orphanage#Technical_Pages shows it as a red link, and it does not disappear from the Orphans when that cache refreshes overnight. This is hardly a showstopper bug or even close, but it's odd. Talvin (talk) 10:57, 27 February 2022 (EST)

Strange, I couldn't find any way to make it disappear either. Must be a side-effect of it being a LUA module. Since it's not affecting anything else (that I can tell) I'll leave it for now, but if there's a pattern of this happening I can dig into it more. Thanks for bringing to my attention! Nicjansma (talk) 22:26, 22 June 2022 (EDT)

Looks like a Bug.[edit]

Category:Spanish language products is a double redirect, and it looks like it is locked up in the change propagation process since 26 March 2022. It appears to need deletion.--Talvin (talk) 10:15, 14 June 2022 (EDT)

Thanks. I had to set $smwgChangePropagationProtection = false; first, then remove the page. $smwgChangePropagationProtection is now back to true. Nicjansma (talk) 22:32, 22 June 2022 (EDT)