User talk:Doneve
Contents
- 1 Welcome
- 2 Archived
- 2.1 Happy New Year
- 2.2 XTRO Primitives Vol 3
- 2.3 Planet InfoBox
- 2.4 Skye Rangers Commando
- 2.5 Task Force Serpent
- 2.6 Rewritten: 4th Skye Rangers
- 2.7 Images
- 2.8 Individual WarShips
- 2.9 Individual Vessel infobox
- 2.10 Contact
- 2.11 Image Discussion
- 2.12 Product infobox
- 2.13 WarShip Pages
- 2.14 Combat Vehicle Infobox
- 2.15 Ulric Quote
- 2.16 Objectives: Clans
- 2.17 Beowulf IIC
- 2.18 Puma Tank & Components of Odin
- 2.19 Enterprise
- 2.20 Design Quirks
- 2.21 ProtoMech Infobox
- 2.22 Ares Conventions
Welcome
Archived
User talk:Doneve/Archive1
User talk:Doneve/Archive2 April 2010-January 2011
User talk:Doneve/Archive3 January 2011-December 2011
User talk:Doneve/Archive4 January 2012-December 2012
Happy New Year
Hy Doneve,
I'd like to wish you and your family a Happy New Year - I hope that 2013 is a great year for everyone.
If nothing else, TPTB have started it off with Objectives: Periphery, which seems like a good start to me BrokenMnemonic (talk) 12:46, 1 January 2013 (PST)
- Hy BM, sorry for the late response, i wish you and your family also a Happy New Year.--Doneve (talk) 13:57, 2 January 2013 (PST)
XTRO Primitives Vol 3
Doneve, Just FYI: I undid your formatting changes to the TOC of XTRO Primitives Vol. 3. Battlemechs, Aerospace Fighters, DropShips, Jumpships, Warships are all italicized, but battle armor and combat vehicles aren't. This is how CGL does it and follows the italics policy. --Mbear(talk) 04:16, 3 January 2013 (PST)
Planet InfoBox
Copied from my talk page Mbear, as the resident expert on infobox construction, is there any way to amend the Template:InfoBoxPlanetStandard template so that if the image is already less than 225 pixels in width, it isn't increased automatically to a width of 225 pixels? Some of the info boxes (like Denbar) are suffering from image bloat because the long, think planetary flags are being scaled up dramatically... BrokenMnemonic (talk) 12:27, 9 January 2013 (PST)
- I don't know off the top of my head. Let me look into it.--Mbear(talk) 04:17, 10 January 2013 (PST)
Skye Rangers Commando
Doneve - So in the back of FM:Lyran Alliance, there's a color pic of a Commando in Skye Ranger colors. Could you upload this one for me? ClanWolverine101 (talk) 10:50, 16 January 2013 (PST)
- Done :).--Doneve (talk) 11:50, 16 January 2013 (PST)
- Thanks! ClanWolverine101 (talk) 22:14, 16 January 2013 (PST)
Task Force Serpent
Hy Doneve,
Do you know where a list of the WarShips assigned to Task Force Serpent could be found? I notice from the Essex page that several ComStar vessels apparently went, but I've checked all the sourcebooks I can think of and haven't turned anything up. BrokenMnemonic (talk) 12:29, 18 January 2013 (PST)
- Ok! i look what i can do for you.--Doneve (talk) 22:12, 19 January 2013 (PST)
- Okidoky, the source is Twilight of the Clans sourcebook, p. 8, and on other pages, i hope this helps.--Doneve (talk) 22:21, 19 January 2013 (PST)
Rewritten: 4th Skye Rangers
For your approval, I give you the 4th Skye Rangers. ClanWolverine101 (talk) 21:32, 21 January 2013 (PST)
- That's one heck of a re-write. Very sharp looking article. --Rebs (talk) 10:58, 30 January 2013 (PST)
Images
Hello Doneve!
Nic deleted the unused Viper images. :( But that's OK. I dropped him a note and said hello and apologized about cluttering up his database. I explained about the holidays and stuff too. He said it was cool, and to upload the images any time. So... If you are cool with it as well, could you please re-upload Natalie Breen for me? :) (page 91 ER: 3052) I just finished her bio, its a good one. :) And it is also for your approval, or anyone else too. --Rebs (talk) 10:35, 30 January 2013 (PST)
- Okidoki, work in progress :).--Doneve (talk) 10:38, 30 January 2013 (PST)
- Thank you much, as always. More to come. --Rebs (talk) 12:11, 30 January 2013 (PST)
- Hello Doneve :) Could you re-upload Perigard Zalman from pages 92 of ER: 3052, and page 98 of ER:3062? And while in the second book, possibly Steel Viper Alpha Galaxy, Beta Galaxy and Gamma Galaxy insignia from page 63 and 64 of ER:3062. I'll put them with their respective galaxies right away so they will definitely be used... and I'll use the Alpha galaxy pic in an article that is getting close. I know you are busy, so whenever is cool, I'll keep an eye open.--Rebs (talk) 22:17, 13 February 2013 (PST)
- Thank you much, as always. More to come. --Rebs (talk) 12:11, 30 January 2013 (PST)
Individual WarShips
Hi Doneve. Had question for you. Why are you making so many sub-directories for individual ships? There aren't that many ships that have extensive information on them them to warrent their own individual articles. I originally made individual ship category, because there only handful ships that had extensive detail to warrent its down profile. Now there ones for individual ships of each Class, whats going on?-- Wrangler (talk) 18:20, 4 February 2013 (PST)
- Doneve, i was looking how you were splitting up the Named vessels into their own files. Category for Point Barrow (Vessel) is listed in the Vigiliant Class category, yet the ship's article says its Robinson Class Transport. Could you double check your linking? -- Wrangler (talk) 12:15, 10 February 2013 (PST)
Hy Doneve,
Thanks for helping with the individual ships There are thousands of them tucked away in various books. I'm sorry I'm not helping more at the moment - I'm laid up with a nasty chest infection, and while I'm getting better pretty quickly, I've not had a lot of time to get on with editing because the convention work has been pretty busy this week. I'm hoping that'll change this weekend though!
One thing I thought I should mention is the convention on naming ships, which should in theory be the same here as it is on wikipedia - while a ship's name is always italicized, the prefix denoting the service shouldn't be. It's not something that TPTB are 100% consistent with in their books, but it's something I've been trying to follow here. It makes life a bit frustrating, because italics and wikilinks don't really work, but it's the technically correct way of naming them. So, ships like the Inquisitor should be the SLS Inquisitor, rather than the SLS Inquisitor. Does that make sense?
I've been nosing through Historical: Operation Klondike (I have been catching up on my reading a bit) and it's a little frustrating that so many WarShips are involved in battles, but so few get named. It also makes me wonder when the Clans started renaming WarShips, although I'm not sure there's ever going to be a clear answer on that. It's also got me wondering about the prefixes and where they come from - we use a lot here on Sarna, and I've seen them used over on CGL a lot, particularly all the different ones for the Clans, but I've not found many sources in canon where they actually specify the clan prefixes. The Blake Documents confirmed CIH for Clan Ice Hellion and CJF for Clan Jade Falcon, but Frabby asked me about what prefix the Steel Vipers use, given that ComStar seems to have used CSV (ComStar Vessel?), and I couldn't find anything in canon. Any ideas? BrokenMnemonic (talk) 05:40, 13 February 2013 (PST)
- Hy BM, at first good luck for your healing process. I am glad to help a little by the massiv amount of various warships. As second, we italic the full name of a warship like SLS Inquisitor, for the prefixes iam with you, there is no clear canon source, named for the most of the vessels, like some of the other clans, [CIH], and [CJF] is stated in a cannon source, i think a talk to the CBT Forum is the best way to clear this.--Doneve (talk) 10:29, 13 February 2013 (PST)
Individual Vessel infobox
Hi Doneve, in the articles you're creating you apparently copy & paste a template using "infoBoxIndividualSpacegoingVessel". That infobox doesn't exist under that name though, it's a redirect to "Template:InfoBoxIndividualVessel". I admit that this isn't important, but I find it irritating to have articles with a redirected infobox. I'm not asking you to go over all the past articles again, but may I suggest that you use the correct template name for future articles to avoid making use of that redirect.
Thank you. :) Frabby (talk) 09:33, 19 February 2013 (PST)
- Hy Frabby, i set up the redirect to the infobox, can you delete one of the infoboxes, then we work only from one infobox, thanks.--Doneve (talk) 10:16, 19 February 2013 (PST)
Contact
Hey Doneve - how can I contact you outside of the wiki? Thanks. ClanWolverine101 (talk) 12:55, 14 February 2013 (PST)
- Sent you a PM on that forum. Thanks. ClanWolverine101 (talk) 20:29, 17 February 2013 (PST)
Image Discussion
Hey Doneve! I uploaded Perigard Zalman... I just wanted to know, did I do it right? Was there anything I missed? If everything is a go, I'll put it into use. --Rebs (talk) 11:20, 16 February 2013 (PST)
- Thanks for the brush ups on the image files. Nice to know I can take care of that end in the future. --Rebs (talk) 20:12, 16 February 2013 (PST)
Product infobox
I've asked Nic to make a change to a CSS file. (I don't have access to it, otherwise I'd just do it.)--Mbear(talk) 09:40, 20 February 2013 (PST)
WarShip Pages
Hy Doneve,
I'd like to give you this assistance appreciated award as thanks for the way you're tidying up after me as I plow through the new ship articles here on Sarna. I'm not getting much time to edit at home because of the Vidukon work I'm doing, and at work I don't get as much editing time as I'd like, so it can take me a fair while to write the articles, set up the redirects and then edit the WarShip/JumpShip/DropShip variant pages to include all the links. You've been a big help in taking some of that off my hands so I can concentrate on the individual ship articles themselves, and I appreciate that greatly.
So, please accept this award, with my thanks: BrokenMnemonic (talk) 23:52, 25 February 2013 (PST)
Combat Vehicle Infobox
Hy Mbear, please can you add a heat sinks row to the combat vehicle infobox, thanks.--Doneve (talk) 11:02, 26 February 2013 (PST)
Ulric Quote
Doneve - I have no problem with you adding it. My concern is that 1) Ulric didn't say it. and 2) It wasn't originally said in regards to him. WoB scripture is way older than the Clan Invasion. The card simply applied it to him for flavor text. ClanWolverine101 (talk) 06:48, 5 March 2013 (PST)
Objectives: Clans
Hello Doneve, i missed that Mortiorium date. However, its four days from now. Its okay leave what i've done alone since there only few days left? -- Wrangler (talk) 19:11, 10 March 2013 (PDT)
- I know know, i hate the moratorium but we must live with this, but i became also a "Wrangler" ;), in the last two years, and you are a good teacher.--Doneve (talk) 19:16, 10 March 2013 (PDT)
Beowulf IIC
Hi Doneve, no offense intended when I removed the Beowulf IIC link from the list in the IIC article. I'm just too tired to think straight, it should have been made a link to "Beowulf IIC". It was piped to Beowulf#variants though, which is inherently wrong - IIC designs aren't variants, they are 'Mech designs in their own right and need their own article. Btw, I don't own any of the most recent TROs so I don't know where the Beowulf IIC is from. Frabby (talk) 14:19, 11 March 2013 (PDT)
- The Beowulf IIC is from Technical Readout: Prototypes, Wrangler is on work to add the missing designs, then in next time the red link became blue ;).--14:41, 11 March 2013 (PDT)
Puma Tank & Components of Odin
Hi Doneve, i was editing Odin Manufacturing for the above mentioned Beowulf IIC. I ran into problem with the components. You had a B-Pod launcher called the "Odin" for variant of the Puma Tank. Now, this was strictly a variant which never had any fluff (i know of) which would have included actual brandnames for its components. The Link for the B-Pod launcher you setup ended up going to the Clan Tank named Odin. I did a fix calling it Odin (B-Pod). I don't mean hurt your feelings, but adding components that aren't named isn't good. -- Wrangler (talk) 19:35, 12 March 2013 (PDT)
- I know of the problem, some brands are not correct linked and so on, iam in work to change some thinks to clear this, thanks for your support.--Doneve (talk) 20:21, 12 March 2013 (PDT)
Enterprise
Hy Doneve,
I notice I gazumped you with the picture of the Enterprise, but I don't think you should delete the version you uploaded, as I think the article can use both. The picture I uploaded is from the record sheet, and shows just the Enterprise - the picture you uploaded shows the Enterprise on trials with other ships nearby. I think you should add your picture to the Enterprise article as a seperate gallery picture at the bottom, personally. BrokenMnemonic (talk) 01:57, 15 March 2013 (PDT)
Design Quirks
Hy Mbear, is it ok when i add a design quirks section to the variants you added from XTRO: Boondoggles?--Doneve (talk) 11:10, 14 March 2013 (PDT)
- Sure. I don't know that we need a section though. maybe just a sentence.--Mbear(talk) 05:48, 15 March 2013 (PDT)
ProtoMech Infobox
Hy, can you add a comsys and T&T row to the infobox, thanks.--Doneve (talk) 09:51, 7 March 2013 (PST)
Ares Conventions
So, is there any actual reason other than gut feeling why you tossed out my summaries of the appendices together with the articles and called me a plagiarist? Dirk Bastion (talk) 12:55, 17 March 2013 (PDT)
- By best will, the content i removed was word for word from Era Digest: Age of War, p. 14-15 and was plagiarized, i don't know if you added the content or another editor, but its a copyright violation, sorry.--Doneve (talk) 17:48, 17 March 2013 (PDT)
- Then you didn't actually look beyond one or two paragraphs: the appendices and addendums were pretty obviously summaries and not copies. I will restore them later today. The articles (which I didn't touch at all previously) I'll re-insert as small summaries as well. Next time please just don't lob off parts of an article on a serious accusation of plagiarism without tossing the author a note or at least put one on the article discussion page. Dirk Bastion (talk) 05:14, 18 March 2013 (PDT)