Category talk:Planets

Manufacturing Centers

• I have data for manufacturing centers, including what planet they're on and what components they product (mechs, equipment, etc). Should I update the planets to list what components they produce, manufacturing centers on planet, and also create articles for each manufacturing center? It'll be quite a big update, but it's some cool data. Nicjansma 12:25, 30 September 2006 (CDT)
  • I can't see any reason NOT too. That would be awesome Objective Raid material. --Revanche 14:22, 30 September 2006 (CDT)

Faction Details

This is a two-part question. I was wondering, is there any easy way to add faction details to every planet, for instance, in the wake of the Federated Commonwealth Civil War or before the Reunification War? All the planetary information does not reflect the current Classic BattleTech setting.

If so, I noticed there is no faction listing for MechWarrior: Dark Age. I have not followed the Dark Age fiction. Is there any source material definitively describing the borders of the 32nd century? Thanks--S.gage 01:17 EDT 11 June 2009.

1. 1) Errrrr....not easy, no. Any information to be added by us (the average editor) would have to do it planet entry by planet entry. Nic, owner of the site, somehow created the planetary database by autopopulating with some sort of bot before he opened the wiki. As far as I know, he is the only one who has bot experience doing so (I may be speaking out of turn). Maybe contacting him to get details on what you'd need to provide him, so that he could auto-update, would be the best/quickest choice, but the 2nd best way is to get all those CBT historians that exist over at CBT forums to come and update their favorite planets. I'd much rather edit their efforts (to bring them up to our standards) than attempt to research each planet with only the active editors we have now.

1. 2) As for bringing in DA details, that would be easier for a handful of dedicated editors to accomplish, since there is a lot less information out (so far), in comparison to CBT. There is NO reason not to add in MWDA info. --Revanche ^{(talk|contribs)} 18:55, 11 June 2009 (PDT)

Revanche is right when he states that there is no easy way. Nic posted the .txt file he used to create those pages, which I updated. I sent it off to him some time ago, so I assume he did not find a way to re-generate those pages without deleting the info that has since been posted. I have been updating some planets as I go (see Terra), but it is painstaking work. As for MW:AoD, there are no sourcebooks per se, but the MW website archive does have an interactive map of the RotS, so that's something, at least. --Scaletail 04:56, 13 June 2009 (PDT)

Major Problem with Coords

Hey folks. Has anyone else noticed that the coordinates are completely incorrect? The X and Y are always the same and there are maybe 5-10 planets for which that is true (if not just the one - Terra). I know they were all auto-generated, but it seems like they were generated incorrectly. I was checking some things would with Scaletail's edits changing references from Blue Diamond to Menkent, but noticed that the coordinates were way off. So, beyond the fact that they're all incorrect, without going through all 3k planets in the IS, how do we fix this? :) Bdevoe 14:00, 18 August 2007 (CDT)

Apparently Nic has all of the original data that was used to auto-generate the planets, so if that could be modified and re-uploaded, it would be fixed, but (as far as I can tell) that would negate all of the edits that have been made previously. Scaletail 16:02, 18 August 2007 (CDT)

Dang! You guys are right. Let me see how I can regenerate all of the pages w/out blowing away what others have contributed to the planets. I should be able to do it. Nicjansma 10:39, 20 August 2007 (CDT)

That would be awesome. :) Thanks! Bdevoe 14:56, 20 August 2007 (CDT)

Lost Planets

How do we treat "Lost Planets", i.e. those that are mentioned somewhere but do not show up on the starmaps? Off the top of my head, examples of lost planets include:

• Dorwinion, the alledged original manufacturing site of the Dervish in Davion space (may have been rectonned to actually be a region on Belladonna where the firm Cal-Boeing of Dorwinion is located)
• Ilion V, where Hansen's Roughriders fought against loyal Marik forces during their breakaway
• Lincoln, where WHs Imarra and LuSann defeated a Davion force in 3001
• Pacifica, a Steiner planet where the story of the "Crescent Hawks Inception" takes place (turns out Chara is named "Pacifica" in the German Atlas so that one is probably solved; I think the world of Chara III is called Pacifica)
• Remis III, site of a Davion/Lindon's Company battle against Wolf's Dragoons/Black Widow Company from the original BT rulebook
• Tsanna, planet on the Davion/Liao border where WH Ijori mauled Davion forces in 3003 and which is also mentioned in the Sword and Dagger novel

I am sure there are other examples...

Further, there are references to planets that are explicitly stated to be unknown. Examples include:

• Alpha Hydri ("a desolate wasteland discovered a year before", i.e. in 3014) to where Precentor Vesar Kristofur was exiled by ComStar after Anton Marik's failed revolt that he had helped to engineer.
• Trisha (eight jumps into the periphery, presumably from the Lyran Commonwealth), where the ComGuards fought the final battle against pirate forces at the conclusion of the Jolly Roger Affair

Frabby 07:47, 15 January 2008 (CST)

From what I can gather, most of these were planets that were created for certain stories, then not canonized as planets in the atlas. Because of this situation, TPTB have had to retcon some of the information, as with Dorwinion and Pacifica above. Tsanna is probably Tsamma. For the others, sources might help. --Scaletail 20:34, 19 January 2008 (CST)

I think they are positively canon and do not need to be canonized as you put it. Some are even repeatedly mentioned in several different canon sources. Conversely, the atlases and housebook star charts are so full of errors and omissions that they cannot rule out a canonical planet/system simply because they forgot to mention it, misspelled it or misplaced it.

Many planets apparently have different names from their respective star system (Trellwan = Trell I, Pacifica = Chara III; an extreme example is Brimstone wich is described as the fifth planet in a close binary system of the stars Orpheus and Eurydice - but the system is summarily called Weisau!). To make matters worse, much German material was produced by FanPro under an original license, so the German stuff in genuine canon and not translated from English canon sources. Some may even never have been translated into English. Which brings me back to the original issue: Is it worth creating a Wiki project to gather information and try to nail down the "lost" planets, or is this Talk page enough? Any help in identifying and sorting out "lost" planets is appreciated because I only have so much time and canon material.

Btw I ruled out Tsanna to mean Tsamma because the former is frequently referred to as a contested world on the Davion/Liao border while the latter is on the periphery side of the Davion/Kurita border. And the name is "Tsanna" in both English and German material. Frabby 09:05, 20 January 2008 (CST)

Honestly, I think the CBT forums are a better place to do this simply because there are a lot more people, some of whom may already have answers (including writers). My mistake on Tsamma. I keep getting confused about its location because the Tsamma Lancers were a core part of Tancred Sandoval's force during the FCCW. If you do want to do this here, then I would suggest working within Project:Planets rather than creating a new Project as this seems to fall under its purview. --Scaletail 17:52, 20 January 2008 (CST)

I've run across this several times. If you look at the Merc units I've done, you can see that there are times where there's just no planet listed. Since they're published in the House Sourcebooks they're canon (in my estimation), but things seem to have been a little fly-by-night when those first came out. I agree with Scaletail and think we should do this within the Project:Planets. There are at least a few people doing some work on that and it seems like a good place to start collecting these lost planets. :) Bdevoe 18:05, 28 January 2008 (CST)

Geographic Features of Planets

The current search engine gives a brief overview of the loyalty of a planet (given an era), as well as common jump routes and other local planets. There is plenty of fiction describing not only the industries but also the local climates, geographic features and demographics (for instance, Tharkad is cold; New Avalon is beautiful and temperate; Twycross is rugged; Kooken's Pleasure Pit is full of lowlife and scum; Huntress has large swamps, mountains, etc., ...)?

I knew I should not have donated my BattleTech fic to the local library...— The preceding unsigned comment was posted by 98.216.185.129 (talk • contribs) on 25 December 2008.

Planet names

So long as we're not adding things like "Oh yeah, and this planet also was named the same in episode X of Doctor Who," is it OK to add derivations for the names of planets when there is either a 99.9% certainty of a name's origin (such as Krung Thep being named after the city of Bangkok), or a great likelyhood that the designers intended a certain name as a reference (such as the planets Maxwell, Silver and Hammer in such close proximity possibly being a reference to the Beatles song "Maxwell's Silver Hammer")?216.52.210.41 00:39, 20 August 2009 (UTC)

If you know the origin 100%, I say you should feel free to add the information. Just be careful, sometimes you might suspect an origin, but the etymology of a planet's name might be explained in a completely unexpected manner. For instance, I would personally never have guessed the planet Taurus was "...so named after [Samantha] Calderon's second husband, Victor Taurens, who had perished during the initial penetration of the Hyades asteroid field." (The Periphery (sourcebook), pg. 15.--S.gage 01:29, 20 August 2009 (UTC)

XY Coordinate

Done with the y coordinate correction in the A/Bsection.--Doneve 17:04, 15 May 2010 (UTC) May 2010 (UTC)

Wrong Maps?

The maps on this page differ significantly from those in the Handbooks. Take a look at the 2750 Steiner-Marik border for example. Which maps are canon? Harry 11:06, 19 May 2010 (UTC)