User talk:HF22

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Personal welcome

Hey HF22,

I am extremely excited that we uncovering some BT material that had slipped under the radar of us here at Sarna and almost into obscurity. I just wanted to say thank you for adding the new fiction to the LinkNet article hope you stay with us on this!--Dmon (talk) 15:58, 12 May 2019 (EDT)

I'll echo this. Thank you, and carry on! Frabby (talk) 16:13, 12 May 2019 (EDT)

Oliver/Ruger Nage

Hey HF22,

Great catch on this article, It has annoyed me for years nit being sure of the characters correct name.--Dmon (talk) 08:45, 6 November 2019 (EST)

Happy to help :) -- HF22 (talk) 06:16, 9 November 2019 (EST)

MWDA Scenarios

Man, you really took up the ball and ran with it there! I can't tell you how glad I am that someone who actually seems knowledgeable about the subject matter is covering this (MWDA basically happened during my BT hiatus and was over just as I came back to the hobby). Really really helpful - thanks a million! Award is definitely in order: Frabby (talk) 02:21, 5 May 2020 (EDT)

No problem, always fun to recover these missing pieces of the lore. Now I just have to finish the remaining 80 or so :) HF22 (talk) 02:30, 5 May 2020 (EDT)

Articles recap

Can you send them to me please?--Pserratv (talk) 04:56, 3 May 2021 (EDT)

Did the email not come through? I'll DM you a cloud link on the official forums instead - Let me know if it doesn't work. HF22 (talk) 06:15, 3 May 2021 (EDT)

William Marik

Hey HF22, I don't want to get in the way of your editing, so are you on to move William Marik to William Marik (29th c.) and create a disambiguation or should I come back later and do it?--Dmon (talk) 02:11, 29 May 2021 (EDT)

I wasn't sure what the preference was on that (was actually about to ask on the Discord), but based on your confirmation I'll do that now. HF22 (talk) 02:15, 29 May 2021 (EDT)

All good then :-)--Dmon (talk) 02:21, 29 May 2021 (EDT)

Nice solid addition to the wiki, HF22. It's not often that a bio can be added/created with such substance, when present in previous sources. Thank you for that.--Revanche ^{(talk|contribs)} 06:09, 29 May 2021 (EDT)

Individual Spacecraft discussion

Good morning, HF22. I thought—with your interest in the genre—you might like to be aware of the call for discussion about updating the templates here. --Revanche ^{(talk|contribs)} 09:34, 4 June 2021 (EDT)

Baron of Mirach

Hey HF22,

Made an edit to the House Sandowski but I want to give you a heads up because I not have access to the source material so I could be wrong. I have changed the family title to just Baron because the wording in the article reads as such "Baroness Jade Sandowski was rewarded with a Barony on Mirach.", the on implies to me that it was not the entire world and likely just a fiefdom. However the Dark Age book Ruins of Power also has a Baron as Planetary Governor who is not expressly indicated to be Baron of Mirach, but the idea is not without merit.--Dmon (talk) 12:26, 3 July 2021 (EDT)

I'm ok with the change. I went back and forwards on this because the source has a pull quote on the first page which it attributes to "Jade Sandowski, Baroness of Mirach, to elements of the Seventh Crucis Lancers", but then the situation brief talks of her being "rewarded with a Barony on part of the Hegemony's part of Mirach". So the Barony certainly didn't cover the whole world, even though it may have been referred to as "of Mirach" informally. HF22 (talk) 21:35, 3 July 2021 (EDT)

All good then. I half did it as a safety precaution against myself, if it was left as a redlink there was the risk I might come back at some point in the future and create an article without noticing the exact wording!--Dmon (talk) 01:02, 4 July 2021 (EDT)

Italics

Hello. I made corrections to the Wolf's Dragoons characters that you have added so far. The current style guide is a little lacking at the moment, but a new one is being created. The short of it is that vehicles are not italicized (Pegasus, Saracen, Schrek...). VTOLs are not specifically mentioned in the guide (yet) but, judging by what I see in BT products, they should not italicized either. Regards.--Cache (talk) 17:34, 15 July 2021 (EDT)

Thanks, and noted for future reference. HF22 (talk) 18:42, 15 July 2021 (EDT)

Wolf's Dragoons Bios

Hey HF22! Quick question - Do you think its wise to have bios on every character mentioned in the Wolf's Dragoons sourcebook, given that the vast majority of them would never be mentioned in another BattleTech product, and our information on them is usually limited to their name and their assignment at the time? Thanks. ClanWolverine101 (talk) 11:16, 22 July 2021 (EDT)

For what it's worth, if you have the time and the willpower to get the job done, I'm all for it. There are a lot of other one-off characters from novels and other (non-phonebook-listing) sourcebooks with their own articles.--Cache (talk) 16:38, 22 July 2021 (EDT)

Agree. We're not afraid of very short or "stub" articles anymore. And you never know when a name might pop up again. Frabby (talk) 16:47, 22 July 2021 (EDT)

I agree they aren't the most valuable articles going around, but they are pretty easy to write and make entirely complete, and I think it would be cool if we could get coverage of every canonical character for whom we at least have a full name and some data (there is likely a bit under 30k of these, excluding your unblooded Clan MechWarrior Bobs, Aunt Mays or Lieutenant Smiths without full names, which I don't track). It has some value from an RPG perspective I think, as well as just because it is available lore.HF22 (talk) 19:10, 22 July 2021 (EDT)

It is worth creating articles for the purpose of crosslinking, too. If we have named people for a given military formation at a given point in time then that in and of itself is worth noting down. Major undertaking, but worth trying. Frabby (talk) 02:10, 23 July 2021 (EDT)

Good to know. Thanks. ClanWolverine101 (talk) 22:08, 25 July 2021 (EDT)

Arkab Lgeions

Hi! As you suggested, I've added a Notes section to the Arkab Legion page, adding back in the reference from the DC sourcebook along with explanatory text. I didn't provide external references for the real-world info, though; I'm not sure of the policy on external source links. Edit: I am apparently also bad at using the Talk feature... Wunjilau (talk) 09:42, 27 January 2022 (EDT)

Thanks! Looks good to me now. --HF22 (talk) 17:40, 27 January 2022 (EST)

My User Page

Why did you revert my User Page to a much older version? I have fixed it.--Talvin (talk) 09:13, 26 May 2022 (EDT)

I didn't realize I did - Not sure how that happened! Sorry for the inconvenience. --HF22 (talk) 09:42, 26 May 2022 (EDT)

Thing is, I am wondering if it was some weird glitch, because you reverted it to something that you can't even find unless you go *weeks* back in my history. Might want to take a look at whatever you tagged "Rollback" in an edit recently.--Talvin (talk) 10:30, 26 May 2022 (EDT)

Yeah, must be something odd going on, since I have no idea how I could have even done it accidentally. I'll look into it, and if I can find what's happened, I'll report to Nic for further investigation.

Every time I get involved in a Technical Writing/Documentation job, I end up finding some weird bug that has the Devs giving me the stink-eye and saying, "Of course it is you." I once brought down a roughly half-million dollar supercomputer cluster like that while trying to document the user interface. I suspect I have been a little too smug about my very long (for me) run of no such here, and the Deities of Technology have decided to issue a caution.--Talvin (talk) 10:52, 26 May 2022 (EDT)

Hour of the Wolf Characters

User:Talvin/HotW Characters, I just got done making sure all the Bloodnamed were added to the appropriate Bloodname pages. Thought you might find it useful as well. (Eventually it will go away, once there is far less red there.)--Talvin (talk) 20:37, 6 June 2022 (EDT)

Thanks. I will start working through them at some point, so that should be helpful.--HF22 (talk) 22:13, 6 June 2022 (EDT)

Clan Characters

The issue of multiple characters sharing the same name is further exacerbated for Clan characters, since except for Bloodnamed warriors, most members of the Clans will only have a first name. Accordingly in the first instance there is the issue of how to refer to various types of unblooded Clan characters, and then secondly how to distinguish articles for Clan characters who share the same name.

The primary rule for naming unblooded Clan characters is to use any surname explicitly mentioned for the character within a canonical source. This may include names like:

• Zane Nova Cat (i.e. First Name and Clan Name) which is used for certain Abtakha warriors, freebirths or other unblooded characters during some historical periods such as the Dark Age.

• Vlad of the Wards (i.e. First Name of the Bloodhouse) which is used by some trueborn warriors if they have not won a bloodname.

• Peri Watson or Igmar Ohlson (i.e. First Name and a Surname not officially recognised by the Clans), such as a Labname or an Inner Sphere freebirth’s surname from before they joined the Clans.

Where no surname is mentioned, the secondary rule is that where the character is a trueborn and their bloodhouse is mentioned, a name in the form of Elo of the Dudzinsky (i.e. First Name of the Bloodhouse) should be used. For all other Clan characters, the first given name only should be used, and no assumption should be made about any unmentioned surname they may be entitled to. For example while some freebirth characters are refer to by their Clan’s name such as Kandari Falcon, this practice was not consistent across different Clans or Eras.

In the instances where multiple characters share the same name, they should be distinguished in order by:

• Their last known Clan, in the format First Name (Clan Name), such as Brin (Clan Smoke Jaguar) or Brin (Clan Jade Falcon).

• Where their Clan is shared, by the century of most notable activity, in the format First Name (Clan Name – XXth c.)

• Where Clan and century are shared, by their phenotype (i.e. Elemental, MechWarrior, aerospace fighter etc) or Caste (i.e. scientist, technician, merchant, laborer etc), for example Frayne (Elemental).

• Where Clan, century and phenotype / caste are shared, by their last known military unit or other distinguishing characteristic, for example Scott (115th Striker).

The {{Otheruses}} tag should also be employed on each article to lead users to the other characters with the same name.